posted April 23, 2024 03:45 PM            

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Originally posted by GoldenSword:
I didn't mean that. Each individual should pursue THEIR Own NN in the natal chart not the SN so the ascending node is aspiration.
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But you brought another idea to me, universally as humans.. Gemini north node may be exalted for us or maybe Aquarius these should be aspiration universally other than the NN in individual chart.

Gemini north node is the highest upward ↑ declination over the ecliptic not aries.

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Yes I guess that is true. Maybe as we aspire to our NN we develop some of the Aries confidence. Or maybe that’s irrelevant. I know evolutionary astrologers say we evolve into our Pluto polarity point the more we aspire to the NN. I don’t know if that means our personality begins to model that sign overall or if we just start to integrate those traits that we’re missing…

posted April 23, 2024 03:59 PM            

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Originally posted by peregrine:
Yes I guess that is true. Maybe as we aspire to our NN we develop some of the Aries confidence. Or maybe that’s irrelevant. I know evolutionary astrologers say we evolve into our Pluto polarity point the more we aspire to the NN. I don’t know if that means our personality begins to model that sign overall or if we just start to integrate those traits that we’re missing…

Anyway, I would have a hard time getting behind the idea that we should universally aspire to Gemini lol. I love Geminis but I’d have to think really hard to piece that one together. I guess boundless curiosity is a universally beneficial trait. Aquarius is easier to see.

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That is interesting, I need to read about that.

posted April 30, 2024 07:43 AM            

He has Sun in Aries and Moon in Taurus!

posted April 30, 2024 08:15 AM            

68% of earth's land mass is in the northern hemisphere, 32% southern hemisphere !

posted May 03, 2024 06:59 AM            

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Originally posted by Preppyarcher7989Wiff:
I don't get the whole 'exaltation' and 'dignity' thing.

People have different opinions. One opinion is that 'dignity' is better than 'exaltation.' And one other different opinion is that 'exaltation' is better than 'dignity.'

My opinion is that the Sun is 'best' in Leo. My two cents only.

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exaltation is based on the nature of the planets. the sun is the ego, aries is a child leo is a king. an ego that's bound to rule neees to be great, but it's not free the way a child's is. the ego does best when it's free, for itself, unfettered ego is good, boundless in the ways ego desires to be. it's not about personal ideas of better or worse only the definition. that's subjective and based in people's individual charts and how they perceive the world. sun is ruler ot leo because the way a strong ego functions in the world is to become a leader. when it's "mature" it rules over its domain and others, it stands out. this is the desire of the ego, which libra goes against. this is not to say libra lacks ego completely, its ego is based in its image though and in upholding values of what ought to be even if it cuts into them getting more. "nothing personal" the ego gets stripped away when moral ideals come away. this is debilitation, but it doesn't create a bad person or someone who's undesirable or better or worse than someone else etc

posted May 03, 2024 07:16 AM            

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Originally posted by Preppyarcher7989Wiff:
I do agree with the Moon being exalted in Taurus. It's a very calming Moon to have.

I don't agree that Venus is exalted in Pisces, if we take 'exalted' as = 'The best'! It's too 'imaginary' for me!

For me Venus is at its best in Leo!

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posted May 03, 2024 07:22 AM            

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Originally posted by GoldenSword:
Astrolog IS Objective, if it is not objective why would anyone waste time on something that is not objective?

The Sun☀️(fire🔥 ) apears rising up ↑🔺️ the sky (celestial north) after Aries point in tropical i.e. vernal equinox regardless if you are in north or south if its rainy or sunny.

Who ever brings the northern southern hemisphere of earth to astrology discussion ask her/him [b]Why the North Node is aspiration in astrology not the south node?[/B]

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the north node and south node are better explained in vedic i think. a demon desiring eternal life drank from the place the gods drank and was cut in half. his head, rahu (north node), wanders separately from his body, ketu (south node)

posted May 03, 2024 02:50 PM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
the sun is exalted in aries because it's the sign of the self, and the natural ruler of the first house (the house of self), all exaltations are opposite their debilitations. For the sun Libra rules a house of others in intimate relations, where self sacrifice is necessity. The sun being the self, lives up to its greatest potential of the self in Aries, but in Libra it's more caught up in other people in a very material world sense, locked in from the free expression of itself. Aries is childlike, no one is themselves more than a child who hasn't been corrected about who they should be for other people, and no one is less themselves than someone who's caught up in showing what they ought to be and living with everyone else's comfort in mind to be fair. The sun needs to be self centered in order to function correctly. that's long winded and i couldvs kept going

oh well 🤷‍♀️ i lose

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At least you tried

You explained very well why the sun is fall in libra.

posted May 07, 2024 08:07 PM            

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Originally posted by GoldenSword:

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I suspect that Elton John's Sun, and Moon, 's exaltations, saved him from his drug addiction in some aspect!

posted May 15, 2024 04:42 PM            

Personal opinion:

The topic of exaltation, while certainly interesting and I am certain also perfectly aligned with math and science, comes from the idea of unity.

Why in the first place do our birth charts affect, shape or influence us? I believe it is because we are all one, and life on earth originates from higher orders above. It's just that things are denser here, slower and also limited and temporary to a sense.

As humans, we have oneness with one another and with other parts of the universe. There are also opinions that everything is created for the benefit of humans. Planets are sources of divine energy, that help manage life on earth.

I had to delve into eastern esoteric to be able to find answers. Particularly middle eastern and Islamic. To my surprise, there are similarities to Hindu, Greek and Christian (Swedenborg) teachings.

Suhrawardi for instance, believed that each planet has its own "soul".

posted May 21, 2024 05:12 AM            

Another things is that Sun and Aries are masculine and malefic planet/sign... Mars is exalted in Saturns' sign, Sun is exalted in Mars' sign... Only saturn is exalted in Venus' sign but still in the masculine sign of Libra.

posted May 21, 2024 09:53 AM            

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Originally posted by mee_chryssa:
Because on the natural wheel, Aries is the first house which is the driver seat in astrology... The first house shows how much control you have over your life, if any, or not have control...
The planet that shows how much control you have over your life is the Sun... the conscious mind...
Aries being ruled by Mars, it's action oriented, which fills the gaps on Leo Sign which is expressive only... Leo thinks that you can be confident only by trusting yourself, which is true... you don't have to be anything to be confident, just as a human being your it... but this trait of Mars/Aries completes this gap... they do something also and moves it to the next level - exaltation.

Another things is that Sun and Aries are masculine and malefic planet/sign... Mars is exalted in Saturns' sign, Sun is exalted in Mars' sign... Only saturn is exalted in Venus' sign but still in the masculine sign of Libra.

Venus in Jupiter' sign Pisces, Jupiter in Moon' sign Cancer, Moon in Venus' sign Taurus

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I like reading your posts, you are my favourite!

posted May 21, 2024 10:13 AM            

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Originally posted by GoldenSword:
I like reading your posts, you are my favourite!

You see the Spirit being symbolized by the Sun?

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thank you <3

it's the ego, it's what you think you are, your personality, how you filter and let it out..and the power to change your life if the Sun has some power, dignified, or having benefics with it, especially Jupiter.

you can't see the person in the natal chart... tons of us are born with the same charts but still we end up in different places...
But, the sun is also the father, if you're a woman, you won't express it that much if it doesn't rule the ASC, you would use more the Moon in this case... if it rules the 7th house, it signifies the partner...