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posted October 23, 2024 05:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ThunderSword     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Wikipedia on southern hemisphere:
It has about 10 percent of world's population and only a small part of the world's land.
https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_hemisphere

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posted October 23, 2024 05:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ThunderSword     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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https://www.lcsd.gov.hk/CE/Museum/Space/archive/EducationResource/Universe/framed_e/lecture/ch03/ch03.html

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posted October 23, 2024 07:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlwiththerainysoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@ThunderSword

How does the picture above relate to sun exaltation in Aries?

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posted October 23, 2024 06:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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That's clear BS. I wish this myth would finally die.

It's not a myth.

Aries is the first sign of the zodiac, symbolizing the first signs of spring, and in the human journey, the baby of the zodiac. They are naturally Me First! Do babies see other people's point of view? No. That doesn't 'mean they are bad humans, it is just that babies feel what they need and they need it now! And if they don't get it, they start crying. They will insist on suckling their mother's breasts even when she needs to sleep and rest. They want to be picked up and rocked even when the parent is exhausted.

It is not by astrological accident that Aries sits opposite the sign of Libra, the sign known for seeing both sides of an issue.

However, we are not slaves to our planets. Our planets and aspects indicate tendencies and what comes naturally to us. But we can overcome, we can grow, we can evolve.People are to study astrology for the purpose of Know Thyself and evolve.

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posted October 24, 2024 01:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Preppyarcher7989Wiff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A person with Sun in Aries (exalted), and Moon in Taurus (exalted), would have very good self esteem. But, their Moon in Taurus (exalted) would help tame the impulsiveness, and abrasiveness, of the Sun in Aries (exalted).

Personally, for me dignities are the gold medals, and exaltations are the silver medal. I know this seems childish, and simplistic.

But think of how much more comfortable you feel at your own home, that you own (dignity, home placement, Sun in Leo), than your best friend's (friend of like 40 years) house. Your best friends house is like the exaltation, you feel welcomed, and great, in his/her house, but you feel more free, honest (I'm sure all people don't tell even their best friends everything), and powerful (because you own your own house, and you make your own rules), in your own house (dignity/home placement).

This is just my two cents, though. I totally get why the Moon is exalted in Taurus, as well as other exaltations.

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posted October 26, 2024 01:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ThunderSword     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted October 26, 2024 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ThunderSword     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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@ThunderSword

How does the picture above relate to sun exaltation in Aries?


The answer is on 1st page original post in bold text.

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posted October 26, 2024 01:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Preppyarcher7989Wiff:
A person with Sun in Aries (exalted), and Moon in Taurus (exalted), would have very good self esteem. But, their Moon in Taurus (exalted) would help tame the impulsiveness, and abrasiveness, of the Sun in Aries (exalted).

Personally, for me dignities are the gold medals, and exaltations are the silver medal. I know this seems childish, and simplistic.

But think of how much more comfortable you feel at your own home, that you own (dignity, home placement, Sun in Leo), than your best friend's (friend of like 40 years) house. Your best friends house is like the exaltation, you feel welcomed, and great, in his/her house, but you feel more free, honest (I'm sure all people don't tell even their best friends everything), and powerful (because you own your own house, and you make your own rules), in your own house (dignity/home placement).

This is just my two cents, though. I totally get why the Moon is exalted in Taurus, as well as other exaltations.


Aries isn’t necessarily abrasive, though. In my natural state, I was happy, calm, motivated, interested in new things, and new people. Speaking as an Aries. 6th house.

I had a whole post written the other day, and then didn’t get it posted, but we are always compared to both little children, and warmongers. Leaders in war, when leaders are supposed to think of everyone, they are supposed to minimize casualties, if in an actual war, or some other kind of standoff. There are specific reasons for being there, either on the offense, or the defense. Planning is involved. They aren’t supposed to just barge in, and do whatever they want - and we don’t. But that is something that is said, all the time. We’re either lambs or rams, there is no room for both, apparently. We get the “full metal jacket” treatment unfairly, most of the time.

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posted October 26, 2024 01:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ThunderSword     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Athens midday 12:00 Analemma
By Anthony Ayiomamitis

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posted October 26, 2024 01:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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If you have a strong sense of self, you tend to be a better leader! That's why the Sun is exalted in Aries!

I mean, personally, I would prefer to be a Leo! But that's just me!


This is what I was getting at, above. Nobody can be a good leader, when they aren’t centered, and are lost in their thoughts/insecurities. Personally, I wouldn’t want to be a leader, but I also don’t want that responsibility.

But, seriously, I also don’t think that Aries is the best sign. Although, I like being an Aries. I have signs that I lean towards, as personal favourites, but none are “the best”. We all balance each other out, as we’re supposed to.

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posted October 26, 2024 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Is this still happening at the same time, now that the days are growing longer, due to what we mentioned in another thread?

I’m not a flat-earther. I’m just wondering.

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posted October 26, 2024 02:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Athens midday 12:00 Analemma


That’s pretty.

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posted October 26, 2024 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ThunderSword     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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That’s pretty.

Thanks to astrophotographer Anthony Ayiomamitis.

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posted October 28, 2024 01:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlwiththerainysoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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The answer is on 1st page original post in bold text.

I understood that, what I don't understand is why you think that relates to exaltation. As I believe I've mentioned in the forum before, I design smart buildings that employ geography knowledge for lighting, and cooling and heating efficiency, as well as for receiving certificates for net zero and carbon zero buildings. Have taken at least three courses at undergrad and grad levels with direct focus on that. So trust me, I know a thing or two about solar calculations.

But that imaginary picture of earth in space does not prove the exaltation in Aries, which is something purely spiritual and metaphysical. The sun analemma which you later posted is better, but it does not explain the exaltation specifically. And btw, I wonder how you can use the solar analemma in the antarctica to back up your theory (picture below).


Even if we decide to agree the picture is not imaginary, it still does not explain Sun's detriment in Aquarius if we want to apply the same logic.


I am not trying to judge you. I even tried applying your logic to Venus by checking its path across the constellations and checking for the rising point, and the exaltation degree comes around about the 18th degree of the Pisces constellation and not the 27th that is believed to be the exaltation degree for Venus.


Look at the photo below for instance. What interested me was that using your logic, we can't explain why Venus is exalted in Pisces.

Your theory is also very subjective to different altitude and latitude locations on earth (very big differences in Antarctica, for instance). Which shows how something so dependent on everchanging variables cannot be taken for a fact.
It's very simplistic to think that the world is so simple, and that our ancestors who were far more superior than us in terms of spirituality, simply looked up at the sky and saw that the Sun is high here or there so said to themsleves oh hey, there is the exaltation!

I admire your determination to bring awareness around the topic of exaltation. But I'm curious why you keep bumping this thread posting the same software generated picture, while it has nothing to do with the concept of exaltation. Although if you're a young Aries, that's understandable because as an Aries mercury myself, it is sometimes hard to hear others. You seem so absolutely sure of it too, that you've even hashtagged your post "astrologybasics", but your reasoning can be easily debunked, by actual astrology and astronomy basics from Biruni, the Iranian polymath who is the father of modern astronomy, who precisely measured the earth's radius and was an expert on Indian astronomy as well.

I highly recommend the links below. They explain that even Biruni, who was a scientist, made no mention of why those specific degrees are regarded for exaltation of the planets (he even mentioned an exaltation degree for the moon's nodes). It's simple for anybody who's familiar with the works of Persian polymaths such as Avicenna and Biruni (here is a great list of all those scientistsList of Persian polymaths laying the ground for today's science ) why:

These great polymaths would write completely separately on science and metaphysics. Their science books would mostly be written in Arabic due to the more precise nature of that language, and their metaphysical texts would usually in codes and a mix of poetry and Persian (Farsi) and Arabic.
Exaltation history 1

Exaltation history 2


But digging into metaphysical texts, you can find that those specific degrees align with certain days throughout the year, completely aligning with the most exact calendar in the world which happens to be the Persian calendar, claiming that the agents of those planets come to earth to impact humans or bless them if you will.

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Edit: Sun exaltation in aries is pure astronomy and physics, it does not require any tl;dr's 🤣🤣🤣


☝️Not everything can be proved with our current science level. A lot in metaphysics has not yet been explained, and that includes most if not all of astrology. Current science has not even been able to explain why planetary transits to a specific natal chart point create life events for us. Astronomy is a tool for Astrology, but never the other way around. LOL.

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posted October 28, 2024 02:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlwiththerainysoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I'm going to need you to try better than analemmas to convince me. Analemmas are highly dependent on locations, and they actually prove nothing about the globe theory.

The link below eloquently explains analemmas in a flat earth:
Analemmas in flat earth

This is off-topic but I am not interested in having the flat vs globe debate with you at all. I was a skeptic and I did my research and I certainly do not believe in a globe (because it's impossible to have such highly different weather situations in the north and south pole on a globe).

Now they're putting out links like this out there, because they know so many engineers like myself as well as anyone with common sense could see the flaws in the globe theory. Too many pilots have put the truth out there as well.
Scientific American says Earth is not round in a very basic language


I appreciate your effort. You can believe in what you want, but I do not need you to show me evidence. I have already studied about this extensively. It's really a solved topic for me and as of now I don't feel like I need to read more on it.

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posted October 30, 2024 04:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ThunderSword     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You like to throw the word subjective a lot thinking it gives ligitimacy to your imaginary fairy tales flat earther? You think you have the higher ground scientifically? You definitely far from that. Also why you keep talking about yourself?????

You know what truly SUBJECTIVE? thinking that the zodiac comes from some imaginary star patterns that no two people could agree on (sidereal astrology).


The Zodiac comes from the 4 astronomical Cardinal points (equinox, solstice).

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posted October 30, 2024 04:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Preppyarcher7989Wiff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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This is what I was getting at, above. Nobody can be a good leader, when they aren’t centered, and are lost in their thoughts/insecurities. Personally, I wouldn’t want to be a leader, but I also don’t want that responsibility.

But, seriously, I also don’t think that Aries is the best sign. Although, I like being an Aries. I have signs that I lean towards, as personal favourites, but none are “the best”. We all balance each other out, as we’re supposed to.


I'm more of a worker bee rather than a leader type.

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posted October 30, 2024 05:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I'm more of a worker bee rather than a leader type.


I'm just a "do what's best for you" type. I might speak up at times, but I've never wanted to be in charge of anyone.

And I wasn't offended the other day. I was just responding. Thinking of everything I've seen, over the years.

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posted October 30, 2024 05:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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You like to throw the word subjective a lot thinking it gives ligitimacy to your imaginary fairy tales flat earther? You think you have the higher ground scientifically? You definitely far from that. Also why you keep talking about yourself?????

You know what truly SUBJECTIVE? thinking that the zodiac comes from some imaginary star patterns that no two people could agree on (sidereal astrology).


The Zodiac comes from the 4 astronomical Cardinal points (equinox, solstice).


I'm not a flat-earther, but why are you arguing over this? She isn't hurting anyone, and she said it helped with her work.

We talk about ourselves, all the time. I actually miss the days when we had a lot more real conversations. We had a lot of nightmarish threads, but we also had some fun.

When it comes to Vedic, I remember getting a free reading generated, when friends were doing that on another site, and it seemed like it told most people that they were the worst people alive. So, that put me off, until I remembered that I have a Sun in Aries, Moon/Venus in Gemini, Scorpio ascendant, Mars in Pisces, and there are people who would declare the same in Western astrology.

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posted October 30, 2024 07:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlwiththerainysoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ThunderSword:
You like to throw the word subjective a lot thinking it gives ligitimacy to your imaginary fairy tales flat earther? You think you have the higher ground scientifically? You definitely far from that. Also why you keep talking about yourself?????

You know what truly SUBJECTIVE? thinking that the zodiac comes from some imaginary star patterns that no two people could agree on (sidereal astrology).


The Zodiac comes from the 4 astronomical Cardinal points (equinox, solstice).


Sorry to be blunt but why do you care how many times I throw around that word?

Subjective is true when it comes to astrological interpretations, and I don't believe I've used it in any other context. But "facts" cannot be subjective.

I also mentioned in my post above how the earliest text existing about exaltation degrees come from Biruni, who himself would write separately on science and metaphysics. He never mixed the two. He also never explained where those degrees comes from.  


Relax, no need to write with so many question marks lol. As I said, I was a glober for the longest time, but the contradictions I faced through my studies opened up my eyes and I ended up being a skeptic and read a ton.

You still haven't responded to my three simple questions:

How does your exaltation theory work with:
1. Analemma in the Antarctica
2. Exaltation of other planets
3. And how do you come back for the 10-minute video explaining how analemmas work on a flat earth

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The Zodiac comes from the 4 astronomical Cardinal points (equinox, solstice).


This statement makes no sense, but hey if you feel wiser than all the ancient seer and ancestors who discovered the zodiac and their characteristics feel free to elaborate why you think that.

I'm pretty sure I've used solar calculations in my life a lot more than you. So what I say is far from a fairytale (says the person posting software-generated and imagined picture as evidence "eyeroll"), and I've posted several links and photos to back up what I said. Reply to me again when you have real answers to my questions. I don't have time for forum tantrum and drama. LOL.

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posted October 30, 2024 07:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlwiththerainysoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I'm not a flat-earther, but why are you arguing over this? She isn't hurting anyone, and she said it helped with her work.

We talk about ourselves, all the time. I actually miss the days when we had a lot more real conversations. We had a lot of nightmarish threads, but we also had some fun.

When it comes to Vedic, I remember getting a free reading generated, when friends were doing that on another site, and it seemed like it told most people that they were the worst people alive. So, that put me off, until I remembered that I have a Sun in Aries, Moon/Venus in Gemini, Scorpio ascendant, Mars in Pisces, and there are people who would declare the same in Western astrology.


Thanks teasel. I have no idea why what I said about my work experience set them off like that!

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