posted April 20, 2024 12:17 AM            

Edit: Sun exaltation in aries is pure astronomy and physics, it does not require any tl;dr's 🤣🤣🤣

Sun ascends above celestial equator heading north at vernal equinox.

Daylight(Sunlight) increases on earth after Vernal Equinox (Spring equinox)

Fire(Sun☀️ ) 🔥🔺️↑ points upward.

posted April 20, 2024 08:20 PM            

Aries sun has a higher potential to do good purely from the heart because their ego is not wrapped up in *appearing* good (Libra/fall).

posted April 20, 2024 08:47 PM            

People have different opinions. One opinion is that 'dignity' is better than 'exaltation.' And one other different opinion is that 'exaltation' is better than 'dignity.'

My opinion is that the Sun is 'best' in Leo. My two cents only.

posted April 20, 2024 09:45 PM            

In my opinion, if the Aries is all good (can tame their quick reaction and channel their energy in a good thing), they are the perfect example of LEADER who inspire confidence in people and move them to action. For the progress of human civilization, the sun in Aries is exalted.

posted April 20, 2024 11:41 PM            

I don't agree that Venus is exalted in Pisces, if we take 'exalted' as = 'The best'! It's too 'imaginary' for me!

For me Venus is at its best in Leo!

posted April 21, 2024 03:28 AM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
lol, I hate being the centre of attention.

I thought it was because it’s when everything starts to come alive. It’s my favourite time of year.

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I hear ya🤣.

What I meant by that is that they can relate everything to themselves and really have trouble seeing things from another's point of view.

An example" would be them thinking somethimg along the lines of "I would never do it like that. So why is this person doing it that way?" OR "If it was me in that situation, I would have done it this way. I just don't understand why they did it the [insert X action here] way." Etc.

Add to that,even though Aries is Spring in the Northern hemisphere. On this side of the equator(Southern Hemisphere) it's when things are dying.So the attribution of Aries with seasons isn't a consistent one. But I get the gist of the intrinsic metaphor. Aries is when things "start" and therefore it is when life "begins" etc.

I once read a post by an Atsrooger who suggested that we swop around tropical signs in the South in order to have them equate to the positions in the North.

So since Libra is when Spring starts here in the Southern Hemisphere , then we swop Libra to "Aries". Then we do the same with all the other positions.

I found that ludicrous and pandering to the Northen hemisphere. The theory was relying too much on seasonal affiliations with signs and negating all the other hemispheres in favour of the Northern one.

If Astrology is objective, it should need no "tweaking" and should be consistent with wherever place one is I.e. I have yet to meet a Libra Sun(unless Mars is conjunct the Sun /Asc OR Aries is on the Moon/ Asc) who's external expression , life goals and purpose mirror those of an Aries Sun.

Even with the conjunction and related Aries positions mentioned, the Libra Sun nature is still interested in "cohesion" and will use their Mars energy to complete goals that align to a "we" pursuit more.

They will become very conflicted with the "me" ,self centred approach that will pop up now and then as a result of those Aries placements.

And most (if not all) the Sun Lib people I know have this thing of not wanting to "appear" selfish. Their concern is always that others know that they were considerate and "fair". That's a big thing for them.

I have yet to meet an Aries who wonders whether or not they were "Fair" to another( again save for one who has Asc or Moon in Libra).

What most care about is that you were "fair" to them. And that's where the concern ends. They don't mean to be that self concerned.But just are.

posted April 21, 2024 03:44 AM            

My mum thought my ascendant was libra, not scorpio, because of my personality, but I also have moon conjunct venus.

posted April 21, 2024 10:09 AM            

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Originally posted by hearttreasure:
The Go-getter, the confidence, and the aggression, without malice intent most of the time.

In my opinion, if the Aries is all good (can tame their quick reaction and channel their energy in a good thing), they are the perfect example of LEADER who inspire confidence in people and move them to action. For the progress of human civilization, the sun in Aries is exalted.

They don't actually really think about themselves all the time which Leo does, but what actually matter for them is "go! go! go! go!". They always just pass through life like no body else who wants to take a nap for awhile or do nothing for awhile or enjoying themselve in appearance, luxurious thing for awhile or says "wait, let's take it sloooww for a while". They just want to keep moving even when they are in anger or sad.

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What an excellent explanation
Gold

posted April 21, 2024 10:13 AM            

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Originally posted by peregrine:
Exaltation (as I understand it) = highest potential for good in the world

Aries sun has a higher potential to do good purely from the heart because their ego is not wrapped up in *appearing* good (Libra/fall).

(Coming from someone who’s been married to a Libra for a good many years for the record)

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posted April 21, 2024 10:22 AM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
I thought it was because it’s when everything starts to come alive. It’s my favourite time of year.

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This is the closest to simple short answer to the question

posted April 21, 2024 01:03 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
I used to worry all the time, about being fair, and I still do. I can't believe I used to feel bad about setting boundaries with people, like my brother-in-law. I felt bad for standing up for myself.

My mum thought my ascendant was libra, not scorpio, because of my personality, but I also have moon conjunct venus.

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posted April 21, 2024 01:05 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
If Astrology is objective,

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Astrolog IS Objective, if it is not objective why would anyone waste time on something that is not objective?

The Sun☀️(fire🔥 ) apears rising up ↑🔺️ the sky (celestial north) after Aries point in tropical i.e. vernal equinox regardless if you are in north or south if its rainy or sunny.

posted April 21, 2024 02:48 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
I used to worry all the time, about being fair, and I still do. I can't believe I used to feel bad about setting boundaries with people, like my brother-in-law. I felt bad for standing up for myself.

My mum thought my ascendant was libra, not scorpio, because of my personality, but I also have moon conjunct venus.

I'm wiped out, and in grief mode tonight, so I'll wait to say anything else. (I'll probably post in another thread.)

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posted April 21, 2024 03:22 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:

And most (if not all) the Sun Lib people I know have this thing of not wanting to "appear" selfish. Their concern is always that others know that they were considerate and "fair". That's a big thing for them.

I have yet to meet an Aries who wonders whether or not they were "Fair" to another( again save for one who has Asc or Moon in Libra).

What most care about is that you were "fair" to them. And that's where the concern ends. They don't mean to be that self concerned.But just are.

But if there is Libra on the Asc or Moon(much like Libra Sun with Asc/Moon in Aries ), they'll have this inner conflict always of where their needs are V.S those of others.🤷🏿‍♂️

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Agreed 👍 and I’ll add ALL suns are selfish and self-serving. Some sun signs just pretend not to be because that’s what feeds their ego. The ego by definition exists to serve itself.

So step 1 to self realization, see what’s *really* driving you and what you’re expecting in return, i.e. where is your b.s. With an Aries sun this is potentially a much simpler process. All they have to say is what’s already out there in the open and they’re not denying which is, “Ok, I’m a selfish jerk,” while all the other sun signs have to navigate around all the mental gymnastics they do in order to believe they are not ego-driven and self-serving.

posted April 22, 2024 04:21 AM            

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Originally posted by GoldenSword:

The Sun☀️(fire🔥 ) apears rising up ↑🔺️ the sky after Aries point in tropical i.e. vernal equinox regardless if you are in north or south if its rainy or sunny.

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Flame rises ↑🔺️🔥 up, flame moves against gravity. That's why the Sun exalted in Aries.

posted April 22, 2024 05:01 AM            

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Originally posted by peregrine:
Agreed 👍 and I’ll add ALL suns are selfish and self-serving. Some sun signs just pretend not to be because that’s what feeds their ego. The ego by definition exists to serve itself.

So step 1 to self realization, see what’s *really* driving you and what you’re expecting in return, i.e. where is your b.s. With an Aries sun this is potentially a much simpler process. All they have to say is what’s already out there in the open and they’re not denying which is, “Ok, I’m a selfish jerk,” while all the other sun signs have to navigate around all the mental gymnastics they do in order to believe they are not ego-driven and self-serving.

This leg-up on the process of self evolution (if they choose it) is why I believe Aries sun is exalted. I know many disagree w/ me. Just my perspective.

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Yes.🤣. Many may make apologies for wanting something, for having an ego because society has us believe that we should put our needs last and not be so vocal about wanting things.

Aries makes no such apologies. There is a self acceptance and a naked ambition that is there which says " I want". And there is no shame in that. This even if another wants the same thing. Aries doesn't create competition. But it does not back out of such an outcome either.

For example, an Aries can walk into a pub and see what they like and say "I want that". And perhaps one or two of their other friends wants the same thing. And Aries response will be "well,let the best man/woman win".

Coz they are not going to change their mind about what they want. That's self- centred imo I.e. "concerned with self goals and centred in what one wants."

The word has been given a bad rep. It is not intrinsically "bad". All of us are born self centred. But are trained out of it by society because we learn that its "bad" to put one's needs first(or so we are told).

That is why when another person(say Pisces) walks into a pub and sees something that they like,their reaction may be "I want that". But then if they find out that their dear friend or two want the same thing, Pisces will retreat.

They will think of being sensitive to their friend's needs and putting the relationship first because they want to nurture the friendship and avoid infighting which can be brought on by competition. Pisces is intrinsically supportive.

What they often do is sacrifice their needs for the other and get off of what they want in order for another to benefit. Over time and when taken to extremes,this lack of "self- centredness" can get them confused about who they are and what they want.

You can't get clarity(Sun)when you are misaligned. And that is why Sun doesn't do well in Pisces. It softens the ambitious spirit and discourages any notions of self-centredness.

So when the Sun in Pisces progresses to Aries, the native may find themselves asserting their own needs more. They become less apologetic about what they want and stop feeling bad for attending to their own needs.

For the Sun position to perform well,it needs to have clarity, decisiveness, assertion and self believe.Sun in Aries can have these qualities in abundance. . That is what 'exaltation' means to me for Sun in Aries.

But we must also be mindfulness that "exaltation" may be a super power. But it doesn't necessarily always equate to an easy life for the native. Not at all.

For instance, Sun in Aries in 10th house may be destined for fame and greatness. But the road to that eventual outcome is barred by many obstacles and setbacks that one must navigate through.

The native may find that with Sun in Aries, they don't take instructions or listen to counsel. Infact, they want to self-lead and do what they feel is in their gut to do.

So they are often dismissive of authority figures and can clash with advisors. And this makes their road up the ladder that much harder. Because when you offend other's egos by not listening to them or challenging them, you can find yourself having a lot of enmity with those "higher up".

The Sun being exalted in Aries will make them a strong,decisive person who has natural authority.So it can happen that they eventually do make it up there(through their entrepreneurial spirit).

But their fruits may come late and fame may be received post-humously I.e. many people will write books about their grit and how they "made it". But with that "success", the native would have sacrificed all other aspects of their life to get there I.e. health, family relatonships , romance, friendships etc.

Because of the "single minded" nature of Aries and clarity of the Sun, the native may have been extremely dedicated to their goals in life and thinking of nothing else.

So it's not unusual for the Aries to have alienated people in their lives because of their "blind ambition ".With these people, success often comes with loneliness.

posted April 22, 2024 10:34 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Yes.🤣. Many may make apologies for wanting something, for having an ego because society has us believe that we should put our needs last and not be so vocal about wanting things.

Aries makes no such apologies. There is a self acceptance and a naked ambition that is there which says " I want". And there is no shame in that. This even if another wants the same thing. Aries doesn't create competition. But it does not back out of such an outcome either.

For example, an Aries can walk into a pub and see what they like and say "I want that". And perhaps one or two of their other friends wants the same thing. And Aries response will be "well,let the best man/woman win".

Coz they are not going to change their mind about what they want. That's self- centred imo I.e. "concerned with self goals and centred in what one wants."

The word has been given a bad rep. It is not intrinsically "bad". All of us are born self centred. But are trained out of it by society because we learn that its "bad" to put one's needs first(or so we are told).

That is why when another person(say Pisces) walks into a pub and sees something that they like,their reaction may be "I want that". But then if they find out that their dear friend or two want the same thing, Pisces will retreat.

They will think of being sensitive to their friend's needs and putting the relationship first because they want to nurture the friendship and avoid infighting which can be brought on by competition. Pisces is intrinsically supportive.

What they often do is sacrifice their needs for the other and get off of what they want in order for another to benefit. Over time and when taken to extremes,this lack of "self- centredness" can get them confused about who they are and what they want.

You can't get clarity(Sun)when you are misaligned. And that is why Sun doesn't do well in Pisces. It softens the ambitious spirit and discourages any notions of self-centredness.

So when the Sun in Pisces progresses to Aries, the native may find themselves asserting their own needs more. They become less apologetic about what they want and stop feeling bad for attending to their own needs.

For the Sun position to perform well,it needs to have clarity, decisiveness, assertion and self believe.Sun in Aries can have these qualities in abundance. . That is what 'exaltation' means to me for Sun in Aries.

But we must also be mindfulness that "exaltation" may be a super power. But it doesn't necessarily always equate to an easy life for the native. Not at all.

For instance, Sun in Aries in 10th house may be destined for fame and greatness. But the road to that eventual outcome is barred by many obstacles and setbacks that one must navigate through.

The native may find that with Sun in Aries, they don't take instructions or listen to counsel. Infact, they want to self-lead and do what they feel is in their gut to do.

So they are often dismissive of authority figures and can clash with advisors. And this makes their road up the ladder that much harder. Because when you offend other's egos by not listening to them or challenging them, you can find yourself having a lot of enmity with those "higher up".

The Sun being exalted in Aries will make them a strong,decisive person who has natural authority.So it can happen that they eventually do make it up there(through their entrepreneurial spirit).

But their fruits may come late and fame may be received post-humously I.e. many people will write books about their grit and how they "made it". But with that "success", the native would have sacrificed all other aspects of their life to get there I.e. health, family relatonships , romance, friendships etc.

Because of the "single minded" nature of Aries and clarity of the Sun, the native may have been extremely dedicated to their goals in life and thinking of nothing else.

So it's not unusual for the Aries to have alienated people in their lives because of their "blind ambition ".With these people, success often comes with loneliness.

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Yes! Brilliantly put 👏 I think people often overlook the potential for loneliness of the Aries, while simultaneously rejecting them. But they often just don’t see that it’s who *they* are deep down that they’re rejecting, and what they have at their own core that they’re hiding. That white hot in-the-moment reactivity.

I think many occasions when people reject an Aries it may be out of subconscious jealousy. Like “I wish I could meet my own needs that easily/simply.” And people will tell themselves that their “complexity” makes them superior somehow. No, just high maintenance b.s. And then years of not getting the needs met can lead to bitterness that poisons the soul.

And that’s another thing that’s admirable about the Aries, the ability to let things go. One of the things I have loved most about the Aries I’ve known is their ability to be furious one minute and laughing the next. The striking lack of bitterness (unless it comes from elsewhere in the chart, which I have seen in some cases) is a distinct advantage in my book.