posted May 28, 2024 12:26 PM            

At the end of August both will affect my natal Sun in the 1st house - Saturn will oppose it from 7th house and Jupiter will square it from 10th house. I am curious to see how it might pan out. Cycles of Saturn and Jupiter were always pretty significant for me but mostly when angular houses were involved. Significant changes were always on the horizon.

posted May 30, 2024 10:40 AM            

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Originally posted by Gemmi:
With the square, Saturn is likely to limit the potential transiting Jupiter in Gemini would otherwise bring but it might also refine it, make Jupiter’s benefits more grounded in reality and lasting. On the other hand, Jupiter might moderate some negative impact of transiting Saturn in Pisces. Both Saturn and Jupiter are needed for significant and lasting growth but they understand growth differently. Hence, the friction is inevitable.

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I wonder what the Jupiter-conjunct-Saturn natally, manifests in real life?

posted May 30, 2024 05:13 PM            

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Originally posted by Preppyarcher7989Wiff:
I wonder what the Jupiter-conjunct-Saturn natally, manifests in real life?

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posted May 31, 2024 01:15 AM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
Tension. Drama. Decision paralysis. I don’t know. I have the square, and I don’t know. Pluto is also involved in the T-square.

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posted May 31, 2024 01:44 AM            

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Originally posted by frida:
Maybe with the square only? No tension with the conjunction. It just takes a long time for their energies to balance out and work in harmony. Squares are more dynamic and create tension. With conjunction, I felt both Saturn and Jupiter influence separately earlier in life (exact conjunction, Libra, 2nd house). Overall, nothing comes for free, but hard work and ethical actions get rewarded.

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I have problems with motivation. Sometimes due to depression, but I also suspect ADHD - have for years.

posted May 31, 2024 01:28 PM            

So that means that in the area of life where you were restrictive/restricted, you will gain more leeway to do as you please. Or atleast be able to expand known boundaries(Jup)

Whilst Saturn on Jupiter is limitations (Sat) on expansions(Jup). The fat man (Jup) goes on a diet or has to reach an ideal weight (Sat).

posted May 31, 2024 03:24 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Jupiter on Saturn is the expansion(Jup) of limitations(Sat). The thin man(Sat) goes up a size or two in belt size(Jup).

So that means that in the area of life where you were restrictive/restricted, you will gain more leeway to do as you please. Or atleast be able to expand known boundaries(Jup)

Whilst Saturn on Jupiter is limitations (Sat) on expansions(Jup). The fat man (Jup) goes on a diet or has to reach an ideal weight (Sat).

This could mean that one has to curb their enthusiasm (Sat) in the area of life where they had too much freedom and excess(Jup). This is about redefining or setting strong boundaries(Sat).

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It sounds like Saturn wins in this case because it comes off like in the Jupiter conjunct Saturn; Jupiter wants to expand more limitations so doesn't that mean we get more limitations?

And with Saturn conjunct Jupiter. Does this mean that Saturn will limit the expansion!

I'm not always a fan of tight, and snobbish, Saturn, but it does sound like in this Jupiter conjunct Saturn, at least in an expansive/constrictive, sense, that Saturn wins!

Although I do think that at the end of the day that there should be a nice balance of expansion and constriction.

posted May 31, 2024 07:55 PM            

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Originally posted by frida:
They can be very powerful together. Wherever Saturn brings hardships, restricts us and also makes us work really hard, Jupiter in contact can give some positive reinforcement / reward and keep us going with a vision. (More for conjunction, but I imagine with a square there will be more tension between two houses). Saturn limits the expansion only in a sense that it forces one to build a solid structure and then Jupiter can expand within a structure. That’s a good thing because the end result is something really solid, big and unshakable! Jupiter rewards are like blessings, they don’t feel like a direct payment for our actions. So with Saturn, I feel like Jupiter rewards for our hard work are bigger and sweeter They are two giants. This is an ideal case of course, when they work well together.

I also think together they give a sense of humility and healthy growth. With Saturn Jupiter conjunct in the 2nd house, I started from below 0 in life and had a lot of limitations. I still do, but I worked my way out - I’m far from rich, but I am now in a completely different world, seeing abundance but also a lot of vanity sometimes. So it’s a constant push and pull trying to balance and understand how to work with both worlds and mindsets. Scarcity and fear are not good nor are vanity and wastefulness. In the case of square, this push and pull will be between differing attitudes/circumstances in 2 different areas of life.

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Yeah it's a balance! I feel like having Jupiter conjunct Saturn, natally, would be like riding a seesaw!

posted June 20, 2024 02:38 AM            

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Originally posted by Preppyarcher7989Wiff:
It sounds like Saturn wins in this case because it comes off like in the Jupiter conjunct Saturn; Jupiter wants to expand more limitations so doesn't that mean we get more limitations?

And with Saturn conjunct Jupiter. Does this mean that Saturn will limit the expansion!

I'm not always a fan of tight, and snobbish, Saturn, but it does sound like in this Jupiter conjunct Saturn, at least in an expansive/constrictive, sense, that Saturn wins!

Although I do think that at the end of the day that there should be a nice balance of expansion and constriction.

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It may seem that way.That Saturn "wins". But it isn't that clear cut.

Saturn is also about growth. But not necessarily as "good-feeling" as Jupiter. Saturn's growth is like growing pains- painful and unavoidable I.e. "adulting" through accepting a first time job.

Though this job would give money. It also limits your free time and has you align to the rules and regulations of who you are working for(Sat) I.e. time clocked in, break time, work conduct and dress code, targets that need to be met,on the job training etc.