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plutonianmenace
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posted August 03, 2024 07:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for plutonianmenace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So I have been following the Drake vs. Kendrick Lamar beef and if you asked any Astrologer, given how biased they are, they would tell you that Drake would win because he is a Scorpio Stellium and "they iz liek the strongzest sign yo". However, Kendrick completely squashed Drake and his reputation in a way that made what Pusha T did to him seem pale in comparison.

Here is a theory I have come to and I am looking into ancient texts about Scorpio that talk about the origins of the star and the Scorpion trying to sting the foot of the man who was trying to destroy it....

Scorpios were not meant to be transformative or vindictive, they were meant to bring that side out of others.

Before the beef with Drake, Kendrick had never been in a rap beef in his life. The guy made good music and that was it, never a diss track before then other than a playful jab. However, in the beef with Drake, the side of Kendrick came out that the world had never seen. The level to which he destroyed Drake is unreal.

There in I think I have a theory about Scorpios.

They were never meant to be the ones who are transformative or vindictive, that was not their purpose. Astrologers are just falsely pushing this narrative because they have a sign to promote and an agenda so they push it. Plus most Astrologers are women and obviously they will prefer a feminine water sign over all since water is the most feminine energy.

Scorpios were not meant to be transformative or vindictive, they were meant to bring that side out of others.

For example, take a Gemini like Kendrick for example. Geminis are not supposed to be the ones that go around and pick beefs with people. The Gemini is the messenger sign and Kendrick has some placements in the sign of Cancer in his chart too which is the nurturing motherly sign.

Drake threw insults at Kendrick's wife and called her unfaithful as well as doing an AI Verse with Tupac, a west coast MC who is considered one of the best rappers of all time that Kendrick looked up to. In that AI Verse, he uses Tupac's voice to diss Kendrick, complete and other disrespect.

Kendrick was left with no choice at all here. He either defends his family and his role model or loses all respect in the hip hop community. Kendrick did just that and Drake got pummeled.

BUT I think that is what Scorpio was meant to do.

Scorpio was not meant to be vindictive, that makes no sense. How can a sign that is regularly provoking people also be this unstoppable avenger that destroys you if you fight back? That would make zero sense.

Instead, the point of Scorpio was just that. To make you into that unstoppable Avenger because of what has been done to you.

For example, look at how Diddy (a Scorpio) abused Cassie. Obviously Astrologers with a bias would hail someone like Diddy as a person worthy of respect and Cassie as this helpeless Virgo that cannot do anything.

However, Cassie started the downfall of Diddy.

I think that the point of Scorpio was not about the self but about the spiritual message.

Scorpio is not this one nasty person who is an unstoppable avenger capable of unique transformations.

No, that was never the point.

Scorpio embodies the very forces that are the darker side of life and force you into being this unstoppable Avenger who brings justice on this very forces.

Kendrick Lamar was never a combative guy but he had to endure his wife being dissed, his friends being dissed, and his role model's voice being stolen to disrespect him because Drake (a Scorpio stellium) was on a power trip.

Then Kendrick was faced with an ultimatum.

Transform into this Avenger and deliver justice on Astrology's favorite sign, breaking the hearts of countless pop Astrologers and making some cry for weeks, or just sit there and take it.

Kendrick delivered justice and united an entire coast of America, rival street gangs, and an entire culture against Drake.

Scorpio individuals, most of the times, are vessels for bringing your dark side out.

There are going to be people who do not deserve decency, respect, mercy, and can only be spoken to in the language of consequences. Scorpios were made to remind us that we have that dark side in us for a reason, because it ensures our survival against such individuals.

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posted August 03, 2024 09:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Preppyarcher7989Wiff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There was definitely a shift towards Scorpio love after about the year 2000. I'm speculating that it was because Scorpios were so hated, and 'untrendy' for so long, people decided to give them a chance!

I definitely love my Scorpios, but within my boundaries, of course.

When some Scorpios become bored, they test you.

Are they the nasty devil, and Nazi's, that people make them out to be? No.

But, are they these selfless, transformative, angels, that are being intense just to be of service to humanity? No.

The more fun answer is that I love the way Scorpio men smell. I'm a gay dude by the way. I like their phermones. It's carnal!

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posted August 06, 2024 07:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ana_bee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It’s hard being a Scorpio. I’m not a Scorpio Sun myself but a Scorpio Asc with my SN in Scorpio. Also Gemini Moon in 8th house and a Pluto trine my Sun and conj my Asc.

I have Plutonian energy inside me and grew up with a Scorpio Sun/Venus father..

Let me just say it’s exhausting.

Having Pluto energy around leads to constant over-thinking, always being able to sense stuff, always being alert to subliminal undercurrents, never taking things at face value, always being confronted with the deep **** from yourself, but also from other people. It’s like you can’t enter a room without attracting drama.

So U totally agree with you. Scorpio has a very provocative way to push other people’s buttons.. usually they always point to this one thing others so desperately try to keep hidden. But you see it clearly and when a Scorpio feels provoked they say it! I think that’s what might’ve happened between them.

Maybe Kendrick gave off a negative vibe, was a bit too playful and cocky and then Drake said really hurtful things. The Scorpio sting is real and it either intimidates or provokes massively. People tend to snap around Scorpios and show their dark side.

Scorpios know their own dark side, it’s something they’re very much aware of all the time. They tend to bring it out in others as well

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posted August 06, 2024 10:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The 8th house is sex, death, and taxes. Ruled by Scorpio and Pluto.

I don’t think that any sign needs to be risen above all others, and the same goes for signs that people trash all the time. But Gemini can be a verbal/argumentative sign. Air can be moody (we get tornadoes from a mixture of things, including air).

My moon and Venus are both Gemini. I wasn’t argumentative for years, I was passive, but as you’ve seen, I can be. And then people can make assumptions about that, when you’re just engaging with other people.

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posted August 06, 2024 11:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DualGemV2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'd never p*ss off a Gemini sun with Cancer placements. You'll see a 360 flip from nice and calm to that person gowing thermal nuclear in a flip of a second.

So naturally Kendrick would react accordingly like that.

Scorpios do get a bad rap, i'd blame part of it on their level of intensity.

I've seen it with my grandma, aunt and a few bosses i've had. They all were very critical when people screwed up.

They never gave me problems because I sorta maintained a "stay in line" posture. If I ended up skrewing up I always could well explain I did the best I could given the situation.

Towards my grandmas last years she became even more sweet realizing she ostracized herself by being critical of all the family members.

My scorpio aunt is also following the same path, nobody bothers with her and she doesn't have anyone in her corner right now.

Drake should be realizing he took his ego to far and he too is ostracizing himself.

In all honesty not everyone in Canada does like him.

He started off as a decent actor on Degrassi HS, it's sorta like a more dramatic version of Save by the Bell that takes on more teen issues.

He got canned from the show then got lucky when Lil wayne signed him as an upcoming rapper, that sorta came out of the blue unexpected.

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posted August 06, 2024 01:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for plutonianmenace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ana_bee:
It’s hard being a Scorpio. I’m not a Scorpio Sun myself but a Scorpio Asc with my SN in Scorpio. Also Gemini Moon in 8th house and a Pluto trine my Sun and conj my Asc.

I have Plutonian energy inside me and grew up with a Scorpio Sun/Venus father..

Let me just say it’s exhausting.

Having Pluto energy around leads to constant over-thinking, always being able to sense stuff, always being alert to subliminal undercurrents, never taking things at face value, always being confronted with the deep **** from yourself, but also from other people. It’s like you can’t enter a room without attracting drama.

So U totally agree with you. Scorpio has a very provocative way to push other people’s buttons.. usually they always point to this one thing others so desperately try to keep hidden. But you see it clearly and when a Scorpio feels provoked they say it! I think that’s what might’ve happened between them.

Maybe Kendrick gave off a negative vibe, was a bit too playful and cocky and then Drake said really hurtful things. The Scorpio sting is real and it either intimidates or provokes massively. People tend to snap around Scorpios and show their dark side.

Scorpios know their own dark side, it’s something they’re very much aware of all the time. They tend to bring it out in others as well


I wonder all along, what if we had Astrology wrong? What if a given sign was not describing the person of that sign but what that person bring out in others? Meaning when they say Aries are impulsive and combative, they actually bring that out of others.

If Leos are confident and cocky, that's not exactly true, rather they bring the confidence out of others being who they are.

Same with Taurus, they naturally make you feel lazy and wanting stability.

That was that.

It is not that Scorpios are supposedly vindictive, but rather a Scorpio individual will cross you so bad to the point you become the vindictive one yourself.

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posted August 06, 2024 01:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by plutonianmenace:
I wonder all along, what if we had Astrology wrong? What if a given sign was not describing the person of that sign but what that person bring out in others? Meaning when they say Aries are impulsive and combative, they actually bring that out of others.

If Leos are confident and cocky, that's not exactly true, rather they bring the confidence out of others being who they are.

Same with Taurus, they naturally make you feel lazy and wanting stability.

That was that.

It is not that Scorpios are supposedly vindictive, but rather a Scorpio individual will cross you so bad to the point you become the vindictive one yourself.


But you’re still blaming scorpios here.

I can see what you’re saying, but you’re still hating. 😂

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posted August 06, 2024 02:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Preppyarcher7989Wiff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DualGemV2:
I'd never p*ss off a Gemini sun with Cancer placements. You'll see a 360 flip from nice and calm to that person gowing thermal nuclear in a flip of a second.

So naturally Kendrick would react accordingly like that.

Scorpios do get a bad rap, i'd blame part of it on their level of intensity.

I've seen it with my grandma, aunt and a few bosses i've had. They all were very critical when people screwed up.

They never gave me problems because I sorta maintained a "stay in line" posture. If I ended up skrewing up I always could well explain I did the best I could given the situation.

Towards my grandmas last years she became even more sweet realizing she ostracized herself by being critical of all the family members.

My scorpio aunt is also following the same path, nobody bothers with her and she doesn't have anyone in her corner right now.

Drake should be realizing he took his ego to far and he too is ostracizing himself.

In all honesty not everyone in Canada does like him.

He started off as a decent actor on Degrassi HS, it's sorta like a more dramatic version of Save by the Bell that takes on more teen issues.

He got canned from the show then got lucky when Lil wayne signed him as an upcoming rapper, that sorta came out of the blue unexpected.

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Honestly, that's very sweet of your grandmother. Lots of people don't change, then blame others for how their life keeps going. I would rather be around someone who used to be very critical, then changed, than someone who doubles down on their criticism (s), and self indulgence, for decades on end. Nobody is perfect; people aren't a flat robot.

The best thing about Scorpios who are flawed? When they change, they genuinely change. The power of Pluto's transformative energies. When Scorpios decided to change, they can change from the roots.

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posted August 06, 2024 03:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I’ve never known a lazy Taurus. My Aries friends will talk and argue about things, but they don’t hate, and I love that about them.

Libra can come out swinging. Sagittarius = outspoken, and uses humour. I have a cappy/gemini friend, who is a real activist. She’s very far-left, and comes out with things that another cappy I used to know, would agree with. Cappy sister prefers people liking her, to disagreeing with anyone she doesn’t know well, over anything. She can be so private, that I don’t know if she ever posted here, but she used to lurk. She left another board, after only posting for a little while, because someone was being weird with her, and the other person had her group of friends. I have my own issues with my sister, but she didn’t deserve that. And I’m currently listening to a Leo, who wants a better future for everyone. Normally seen as an Aquarius thing.

I’m not as laid-back as I used to be, with good reason. But I have no interest in being cruel, and I don’t like fighting. I just don’t like people expecting me to shut up, as they continue to express themselves freely. Just because they disagree with me.

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posted August 06, 2024 03:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is sparking thoughts about something I’d like to talk about, another time.

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posted September 26, 2024 01:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for odalix     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I love Scorpios.I also respect them from far away becaue they're so complex-I have never met a simple, polyanna scorpio-they're always digging.Scorpios can feel other people's pain and turmoil as soon as they walk into a room.They're the true empaths even when they're stinging you, they know you're hurting, deep inside.

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