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Rooted_Tree_33
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posted August 19, 2024 05:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rooted_Tree_33     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hallo
Can yall pls share your thoughts- what could happen when Pluto in aqua, transiting someone’s 5th house, opposes their natal sun in Leo in their 11th house, with the sun ruling their 12th house?
Pls share possibilities, thank you lots!

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posted August 22, 2024 08:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted August 22, 2024 03:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's typically a complete overhaul of everything they believed about their identity/ego. Who they are, what they are about and where they are going etc.

Since Sun is in 11th house, the native identifies with friendships a lot or connections with a larger group of people. So their ego is often subjugated to a greater group than they are as an individual.

The Plu opposition may awaken the natives ideas of who they are outside of their friendships. It may motivate one to seek a personal identity that isn't a part of a larger crowd.

This may include the native losing their group of friends, growing out of them OR those groups growing out of him/her etc.

It may also include some sort of betrayal by friends or some kind of revelation that destroys the bonds that they thought were deep and meaningful. Maybe even a loss (death of a close mate).

If the native is not the social type or does not belong to any group, this transit will do the reverse.

It will awaken social anxiety fears as one struggles to find camaraderie as they are propelled by circumstances to be a part of a group or find some association with a team of people etc.

This could include moving into a new neighbourhood and having to start all over again with new friendship ties, being promoted to lead a team OR else joining a club because of work and having to make contacts there that may help in ones career etc.

Look at how the native is integrated /not integrated into groups (Sun in 11th house). The Pluto transit will have them stick out like a sore thumb in either trying to fit in. Or finding oneself without associates or a posse.

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posted August 27, 2024 05:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rooted_Tree_33     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, Aries! May I ask- How could the 12th house play into it?

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posted September 01, 2024 06:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Rooted_Tree_33:
Thank you, Aries! May I ask- How could the 12th house play into it?

If Sun is in 12th house, native identifies strongly with privacy or tends to not reveal much about themselves.

Sometimes the native may like to be discrete or go undetected-absolutely abhorring the spotlight. This unless the spotlight is under their control.

Even if they are in the spotlight or gain attention, the attention gained has an air of fog/mist or fantasy around it I.e. like an actor who fades so much into their character, that the two become one or are indivisible.

Joan Collins has Neptune (ruler of house 12) squareher Sun. And this is similar to Sun in 12th. I can't tell Joan apart from Alexis Colby (Dynasty fame).

Pluto is about excretion of waste or that which is not needed. Hence it rules the anus. And so it revitalizes/ transform . As we all feel better and lighter after taking a smelly dump.

So the opposition of the transit with Sun in 12th may mean the private self has to shed some aspects of itself. The native may have to deal with more publicity in their life. Abd less privacy.

Maybe the native's life becomes more public? Or they find themselves in a position where they are not able to keep things in their lives private anymore? Secrets affecting their identity that they were not aware of(kept from them) come out? Etc.

Because Plu will be in 6th house. There is a way in which either health/work/ enmity etc. Will play a role in this.

An example is getting diagnosed with an illness(6th)and then the whole family (and others) know about it. Suddenly your private (12th) business is out there because everyone is talking about you etc.

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posted September 11, 2024 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted September 18, 2024 11:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rooted_Tree_33     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Aries, thanks so much for your insight, you’re a gem! I don’t want to be annoying but I was wondering what the influence of the sun ruling the 12th house would be, so, sun is still in 11th house but it rules the 12th )
Open to other ppls inpit / experiences too - thank you !

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posted September 18, 2024 03:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Rooted_Tree_33:
Hey Aries, thanks so much for your insight, you’re a gem! I don’t want to be annoying but I was wondering what the influence of the sun ruling the 12th house would be, so, sun is still in 11th house but it rules the 12th )
Open to other ppls inpit / experiences too - thank you !

Typically it will bring issues of the 12th house to the 11th house.

11th house is about groups, networks and associations.And 12th house is about isolation,foreigners, retreat from the hustle and bustle etc.

So perhaps this merger would suggest making foreign (12th) friends (11th)? An example of this would be someone who is a part of an online group that consists of people from all over the world. Sort of like Lindaland.

It could also suggest that one is distant from their friends in some way i.e. only online interaction and hasn't met them in person. OR one does not view their friends properly i.e. idealized connections which open them up to betrayals.

I have the current ruler of my 11th house (Sat) transiting my 12th house of isolation and loss. And this has had me question who my friends really are.

So sometimes the 11th and 12th house connection (Neptune in 11th house or Sat/ Ura in 12th house) can have one be confused about who their friends are.

That could mean trusting the wrong people. OR people who have no desire to befriend you.OR hanging around a crowd that you have no business being with.

What I am facing is a sense of disconnection and distance (precipitated by other circumstances) from others. And that has made me question if I have ANY friends at all🤷🏿‍♂️

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posted September 20, 2024 12:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rooted_Tree_33     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aries23Degrees Thanks so much! I appreciate it. Good food for thought.
I hope your current situation brings you some good insight for your future connections with others! )

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posted September 21, 2024 09:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Rooted_Tree_33:
Aries23Degrees Thanks so much! I appreciate it. Good food for thought.
I hope your current situation brings you some good insight for your future connections with others! )

Pleasure . And thank you🕺🏿

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