posted September 23, 2024 04:30 AM            

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Originally posted by Librapurr:
You have Jupiter in 1st sq. MC and making t-square with Saturn Nodes. Saturn might be a chart ruler. Also, you have Mystic rectangular and couple t-squares. Neptune is making aspect to all personal placements. Sun combust Mercury opp. Uranus. There’s a lot to unfold.

It should be more complicated than one aspect or placement. Probably, aspects with moon and Mercury should be the major here.

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Had to think about this one before responding.

I live in my head alot, I tend to draw intuitive people...I guess they can read my mental energy from my Sun combust Mercury.

But I will tend to get distracted with the Uranus opposition.

My Mystic triangle, the other day
I told my Cancer mom I appreciate the solid home base she provided.

Just wished she'd give me more freedom to do what I think is best (Overprotective Cancer parents) when I was younger.

So there are aspects to overcome the challenges.

posted September 23, 2024 12:34 PM            

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Originally posted by DualGemV2:
Had to think about this one before responding.

I live in my head alot, I tend to draw intuitive people...I guess they can read my mental energy from my Sun combust Mercury.

But I will tend to get distracted with the Uranus opposition.

My Mystic triangle, the other day
I told my Cancer mom I appreciate the solid home base she provided.

Just wished she'd give me more freedom to do what I think is best (Overprotective Cancer parents) when I was younger.

So there are aspects to overcome the challenges.

My Planets
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☉‘ ♊, ☽ ♈, ASC ♑, ☿ ♊, ¡÷ ♉, ¡ö ♋ , ♃ ♒, ♄ ♏, ♅ ♐, ♆ ♑

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It’s pretty interesting disease. I thought before to have your brain working differently should be an advantage because most people are hm…not that great.

It might be a combination Jupiter and Saturn. Jupiter and Uranus give non standard ways, no need to follow and fit, might be related to patterns and not about details. Saturn is definitely about details.

posted September 23, 2024 05:17 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Thank you so much Frida for sharing! this is very helpful. It fits the aquarius placements in the 7th squaring uranus

What is going on with your JUNO? Curious...

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posted September 23, 2024 05:33 PM            

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Originally posted by Librapurr:
I often look at my friends with hard mars and Saturn, afflicted moon and/or Mercury, and think whether they are narcissistic, autistic and just jerks. And they both have those saying like they need to do how convenient for them. What I actually plan to adopt. They do how convenient for them so I guess I’m the one who adjust there…
However, one doesn’t care about details and the other might be more into details and fits more autistic description. Oh, I recall one more like that also…

I cannot really see if they really don’t understand when being rude or they pretend they don’t… I read it’s one symptom of autism.

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They don't understand they are being rude Yes, there can be a sense that autistic people are selfish or self-oriented, but they are not really aware of it nor it's their intention! Unless they are actually jerks in addition to being autistic - everybody is different. Many times they have childhood trauma from struggling to fit in with other kids, and many I know were bullied because they couldn't read nuances in social interactions like everybody else.

Interesting how many people are responding! It's sort of a timely thread for me too... because I have yet another new person in my life with Aspergers (high functioning autism). As I wrote earlier, I have Mercury + Sun in Aquarius on my Desc, square Uranus (and trine Pluto and sextile Neptune). I can't even count how many people on the spectrum I know! Mercury rules my 11th house Gemini (friends, people around me) and 2nd. I am also an engineer and yes, it's common that people with Aspergers choose engineering career. That's part of the reason why I know so many. I also have girlfriends whose husbands are engineers on the spectrum.

It all took a toll on me though. I'm neurotypical and can read people very well, so I always exactly see what's going on, I have really good social skills, and I am supportive, but then I get affected and exhausted emotionally. The new person at work is kind of like a last drop in an already full cup - and conveniently, that's happening when transit Uranus through 10th house is squaring my Asc, and soon Mercury (plus Sun and opposing Uranus)! Let's see how that ends

To be clear, love you all, but it's hard for both neurodivergent and neurotypical when they get together.

posted September 23, 2024 06:18 PM            

-I stim a lot!
-I have sensitivities towards some types of fabrics and linens towards my skin.
-I lack eye contact sometimes!

There's more, but my self speculation toward that I might be Autistics are because of these reasons, and more.

The Astrology? Jupiter retrograde in Gemini? Mars square Uranus?

posted September 24, 2024 10:20 AM            

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Originally posted by frida:
They don't understand they are being rude Yes, there can be a sense that autistic people are selfish or self-oriented, but they are not really aware of it nor it's their intention! Unless they are actually jerks in addition to being autistic - everybody is different. Many times they have childhood trauma from struggling to fit in with other kids, and many I know were bullied because they couldn't read nuances in social interactions like everybody else.

Interesting how many people are responding! It's sort of a timely thread for me too... because I have yet another new person in my life with Aspergers (high functioning autism). As I wrote earlier, I have Mercury + Sun in Aquarius on my Desc, square Uranus (and trine Pluto and sextile Neptune). I can't even count how many people on the spectrum I know! Mercury rules my 11th house Gemini (friends, people around me) and 2nd. I am also an engineer and yes, it's common that people with Aspergers choose engineering career. That's part of the reason why I know so many. I also have girlfriends whose husbands are engineers on the spectrum.

It all took a toll on me though. I'm neurotypical and can read people very well, so I always exactly see what's going on, I have really good social skills, and I am supportive, but then I get affected and exhausted emotionally. The new person at work is kind of like a last drop in an already full cup - and conveniently, that's happening when transit Uranus through 10th house is squaring my Asc, and soon Mercury (plus Sun and opposing Uranus)! Let's see how that ends

To be clear, love you all, but it's hard for both neurodivergent and neurotypical when they get together.

Oh, and I still don't see a way to tell in a chart that someone is on the spectrum... but in theory, it makes sense it would involve Mercury, Uranus, Saturn. One of the closest autistic people in my life doesn't have any of those aspects. Cancer Mercury, unaspected. He does have Sun Pluto square and wide Mars Pluto square - so yes, he does come across as a self-centered jerk sometimes haha.

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When you give the benefit of the doubt, it’s often hard to determine who doesn’t come across the right way and who is the real bad guy. I have hard Neptune and it’s often hard for me to see closeby people clearly. I can make hard analyzing with time and when I’m more detached.
I’m pretty familiar with tech people. Their sometimes cold way and obsession with unnecessary details doesn’t bother me. I’m not good with small talks myself so I better listen something complicated I don’t understand lol

posted September 24, 2024 11:09 AM            

For the high ASD, I'd pay attention to the 10% when they are friendly and see how genuine it is.

I'd like to know if there are any outside stresses she's not describing? Could a relocation chart help and figure out if she's living in the right environment?

ASDs can be alot more sensitive to their environments.

I don't mean it like if there's pollution in the air, although breathing clean air helps.

More like the the general lay of the land and the type of people you'll they encounter living there.

I lived in Ottawa for 10+ yrs and I could instantly flip to attack mode just because the environment wasn't for me.

When I take the train there for the occasional work meeting or vist my spiritual friend that got me through...my mood flips halfway and I turn into a "powder keg".

The area crossed my Saturn/MC Line, great place to learn the harsh realities of life. But it also left a lasting impact on me.

I've since moved back home, heck I live 15min walk from the downtown hospital I was born at, everyone says I'm alot more calmer.

I have much more harmonious placements were i'm now.

posted September 25, 2024 04:08 AM            

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Originally posted by Librapurr:
So can somebody without special interests, obsession with routine/ details, interest in science, or nerdy hobbies be autistic?

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It's possible, but very unlikely. I'm starting to become less interested with things but that's just my dissatisfaction with society.

posted September 28, 2024 02:36 PM            

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Originally posted by Librapurr:
So can somebody without special interests, obsession with routine/ details, interest in science, or nerdy hobbies be autistic?

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What DualGemini said! At least 60% (and this is extremely conservative) would have those traits, honestly it's probably more like 85%+!

posted September 28, 2024 03:22 PM            

I can pick up on social cues, a lot of time, but that means nothing if the other person isn't honest. Small example: passive-aggressive vague-booking on facebook. Instead of saying something directly to another person, privately, someone will post something insulting/hurtful, and get people backing them up in the replies (or defending themselves, because they think it might be directed at them). Even when it hasn't been directed at me, as something was a couple of weeks ago, I have been known to ask why they didn't just talk to the other person privately. High school never ends.

posted September 28, 2024 09:16 PM            

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Originally posted by Preppyarcher7989Wiff:
As a possibly Autistic person! I can understand why Mercury could be related to Autism! But, I'm still trying to figure out the Uranus part!

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posted September 28, 2024 10:30 PM            

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Originally posted by frida:
Uranus is quirky, at odds with others, sharp, "mad scientist" type... statistically, unlike neurotypical people, ASD people's IQ is either really, really high (but they are quirky or lower than average. High IQ ASD person sounds very Uranian to me.

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Thank you!

The few hours after my post. I forgot, and remembered, that Uranus rules science. So Autistics tend to be more logical and/or science-minded, than others. Add in the emotional detachment that Autistics can be, Uranus can also be emotionally detached. It took me a few minutes to think about it, remember, it. Also, like you said the genius aspect of Uranus!

I think my Autism is more of my Jupiter in Gemini, retrograde!

posted September 28, 2024 11:07 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
I thought a part of it, was problems with relationships. That's why I think my test results were high, but relating to PTSD.

I can pick up on social cues, a lot of time, but that means nothing if the other person isn't honest. Small example: passive-aggressive vague-booking on facebook. Instead of saying something directly to another person, privately, someone will post something insulting/hurtful, and get people backing them up in the replies (or defending themselves, because they think it might be directed at them). Even when it hasn't been directed at me, as something was a couple of weeks ago, I have been known to ask why they didn't just talk to the other person privately. High school never ends.

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I can only speak for the males ASD, but from what i've seen from both the females and males there's sorta being a hermit when it comes to people.

When it comes to female ASD, I think of the old 90s Cartoon Daria
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRbyOa5U7f8&list=PLMoQ4Gl9Yw-xlQubVpv8flAJ7XHPOsfFH

A lot of people speculate she is ASD other's just say she's just a smart witted teen female.

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Originally posted by frida:
Uranus is quirky, at odds with others, sharp, "mad scientist" type... statistically, unlike neurotypical people, ASD people's IQ is either really, really high (but they are quirky or lower than average. High IQ ASD person sounds very Uranian to me.

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As per quirky, I had a math prof that whould wear shirts inside out.

sometimes you can generally spot a pattern in how ASD dress.

When I was a child, my sister was looking at old pictures and pointed out in every picture I was in I was wearing x-men clothing.

Now I generally dress like the engineer look, rarely do I deviate from that, Slacks and plain button up shirts.

When I have to be in the office I think i'm the only one that wears clean looking Jordans or Lebron's over dress shoes.

posted September 29, 2024 12:49 AM            

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Originally posted by DualGemV2:
As per quirky, I had a math prof that whould wear shirts inside out.

sometimes you can generally spot a pattern in how ASD dress.

When I was a child, my sister was looking at old pictures and pointed out in every picture I was in I was wearing x-men clothing.

Now I generally dress like the engineer look, rarely do I deviate from that, Slacks and plain button up shirts.

When I have to be in the office I think i'm the only one that wears clean looking Jordans or Lebron's over dress shoes.

My Planets
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☉‘ ♊, ☽ ♈, ASC ♑, ☿ ♊, ¡÷ ♉, ¡ö ♋ , ♃ ♒, ♄ ♏, ♅ ♐, ♆ ♑

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posted December 24, 2024 04:28 PM            

But I do like to be social. One of the messages I’ve been receiving is to stop masking it. I really click with Autistic on the spectrum people. Like I just felt like I can be myself.

I have been adjusting socially I quit drinking, caffeine, nicotine, sugar when I can. So I am having a big adjustment time.

I also am a big social battery person. I had a phase where I socialized so much that I felt I wasn’t paying attention to myself. And started ghosting people left and right. Plus I would rather ghost people than be honest and blunt. Because I wasn’t raised to feel safe to express myself it it comes off harsh.

Plus even if I had all day it’s not enough time to do everything I want to do.

I have a hard time coping not living alone sometimes now. I can really need space hard. I get very FML if I feel like I can’t have a moment alone when I am processing my feelings. I need a lot of time for that since I wasn’t raised to feel okay or safe to have bad feelings and express them.

I’ve never been diagnosed with ADHD but some stuff hit really hard. Like wanting to only do things you’re interested in doing and how hard it is to do things you don’t want to do!

But some of my friends on the adhd spectrum cannot stop talking. Even when you say ya gotta get going. I’ve been on the verge of screaming before!

Anyways I have Jupiter in Cancer house 2 it opposes Uranus stationary rx house 8

I’m a Gemini rising, Aries Sun Scorpio moon.

Uranus is one of my dominant planets.

Btw lots of witches are Nerodivergent.

posted December 25, 2024 02:03 AM            

For the Capricorn Asc(who is often formal and selective about company)the Moon ruling the 7th is the instrument through which they can decide affiliation or distance (depending on sign).

The Moon being receptive tends to have the Asc in Cap (especially in water Moon) be the type to ALWAYS look far deeper than the surface. And this can result in them being extremely tolerant of conditions in relationships that other people will not be.

That is mostly because the Asc in Cap is looking at things from more than just the surface that others see them. They understand the intricate dynamics of people that they get involved with because they have the emotional depth(when Moon is in water) to deal with them.

As such, the partners will be emotionally complex, deal with all sorts of issues (often indicated by the Moon position). And the Cap Asc will thrive within such relations.

If Moon in Fire for instance, the word here is hot emotions which can facilitate a hot or impulsive nature. At worst this position for Cap Asc, may attract a volatile/violent partner who is quick to act on extreme emotions (usually regretting them later).

Or else the Cap Asc can themselves BE that partner who seems to have a short fuse with their close partner or react in ways deemed excessive or intense when in relationships.

@Hypatia238 I think your Moon is I Pisces (if memory serves me correct). And Pisces/Aqua are two positions that ime often deal with mental health issues.