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Topic: The waiting game: Plu, Nep, Ura in the last degrees.
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Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 10971 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted October 29, 2024 12:14 PM
The US election coming up will have Mars Cancer 29 and Plu Capricorn 29. Right on the edge of degrees.This to me suggests that the motives used to choose the President in 2024, would have changed by next year 2025. In other words, people will be focused elsewhere in their judgement of how effective the president is. The progressed chart for the US Democratic party has Sun 1Leo. Whilst for the Republican party, its 14Virgo. Saturn(planet of contraction and hardships) will be opposing the Republican party's progressed Sun 14Vir. Pluto( the planet of intense reform and influence) will be opposing the Democrats' prpgressed Sun 1 Leo. The latter to me of speaks of the candidate from the latter party (Dem)succeeding. But not without problems or extreme polarization. Since Transit Plu Aqua will be opposing the progresed Sun of the Democrats chart next year. This speaks of an administration whose time in office will at many times be at odds with what some members of the collective wants. It will have to manage deep divisions in the public I.e. some will support it fully. Whilst others will not recognize it and be resistant to it. Interestingly enough, the two candidates for either parties I.e. Trump(Rep) and Harris (Dem), both have Sun/Moon opposition. And this opposition speaks of balancing what one wants to do(Sun) vs. What is expected of them to do (Moon) Interesting times for the US. IP: Logged |
Preppyarcher7989Wiff Knowflake Posts: 520 From: United States Registered: Jan 2024
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posted October 29, 2024 07:37 PM
quote: Originally posted by Aries23Degrees: The US election coming up will have Mars Cancer 29 and Plu Capricorn 29. Right on the edge of degrees.This to me suggests that the motives used to choose the President in 2024, would have changed by next year 2025. In other words, people will be focused elsewhere in their judgement of how effective the president is. The progressed chart for the US Democratic party has Sun 1Leo. Whilst for the Republican party, its 14Virgo. Saturn(planet of contraction and hardships) will be opposing the Republican party's progressed Sun 14Vir. Pluto( the planet of intense reform and influence) will be opposing the Democrats' prpgressed Sun 1 Leo. The latter to me of speaks of the candidate from the latter party (Dem)succeeding. But not without problems or extreme polarization. Since Transit Plu Aqua will be opposing the progresed Sun of the Democrats chart next year. This speaks of an administration whose time in office will at many times be at odds with what some members of the collective wants. It will have to manage deep divisions in the public I.e. some will support it fully. Whilst others will not recognize it and be resistant to it. Interestingly enough, the two candidates for either parties I.e. Trump(Rep) and Harris (Dem), both have Sun/Moon opposition. And this opposition speaks of balancing what one wants to do(Sun) vs. What is expected of them to do (Moon) Interesting times for the US.
Great analysis!
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Preppyarcher7989Wiff Knowflake Posts: 520 From: United States Registered: Jan 2024
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posted October 29, 2024 07:38 PM
With Saturn in Pisces, people are burnt out.------------------ Happiness is easy to find. IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 10971 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted October 30, 2024 09:03 AM
quote: Originally posted by Preppyarcher7989Wiff: With Saturn in Pisces, people are burnt out.
This transit is just something else 😶 IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 10971 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted October 30, 2024 09:19 AM
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Preppyarcher7989Wiff Knowflake Posts: 520 From: United States Registered: Jan 2024
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posted October 30, 2024 04:25 PM
quote: Originally posted by Aries23Degrees: This transit is just something else 😶
Add in Neptune in Pisces too. ------------------ Happiness is easy to find. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 29246 From: Here Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 30, 2024 05:32 PM
I still don't have much of an appetite, but I feel like eating my weight in chocolate. I just had a few cookies, I need to eat something more substantial. IP: Logged |
girlwiththerainysoul Knowflake Posts: 2987 From: Registered: Jul 2016
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posted October 30, 2024 07:48 PM
quote: Originally posted by teasel: I still don't have much of an appetite, but I feel like eating my weight in chocolate. I just had a few cookies, I need to eat something more substantial.
Around Halloween all I wanna do is eat chocolate and binge-watch scary movies all nights lol. Then I need a whole week to bounce back into the real life haha. IP: Logged |
girlwiththerainysoul Knowflake Posts: 2987 From: Registered: Jul 2016
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posted October 30, 2024 07:52 PM
quote: Originally posted by Aries23Degrees: The US election coming up will have Mars Cancer 29 and Plu Capricorn 29. Right on the edge of degrees.This to me suggests that the motives used to choose the President in 2024, would have changed by next year 2025. In other words, people will be focused elsewhere in their judgement of how effective the president is. The progressed chart for the US Democratic party has Sun 1Leo. Whilst for the Republican party, its 14Virgo. Saturn(planet of contraction and hardships) will be opposing the Republican party's progressed Sun 14Vir. Pluto( the planet of intense reform and influence) will be opposing the Democrats' prpgressed Sun 1 Leo. The latter to me of speaks of the candidate from the latter party (Dem)succeeding. But not without problems or extreme polarization. Since Transit Plu Aqua will be opposing the progresed Sun of the Democrats chart next year. This speaks of an administration whose time in office will at many times be at odds with what some members of the collective wants. It will have to manage deep divisions in the public I.e. some will support it fully. Whilst others will not recognize it and be resistant to it. Interestingly enough, the two candidates for either parties I.e. Trump(Rep) and Harris (Dem), both have Sun/Moon opposition. And this opposition speaks of balancing what one wants to do(Sun) vs. What is expected of them to do (Moon) Interesting times for the US.
Interesting take. I feel like a lot of people in the past didn't care about what the US government did. But recently it feels like it's changing and anybody new in office will have to be very careful of what they do and say. I think since we're having Jupiter on US's Mars, ruling its 5th house, the reproductive rights issues will play big in this election. IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 10971 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted November 01, 2024 05:38 AM
quote: Originally posted by girlwiththerainysoul: Interesting take. I feel like a lot of people in the past didn't care about what the US government did. But recently it feels like it's changing and anybody new in office will have to be very careful of what they do and say. I think since we're having Jupiter on US's Mars, ruling its 5th house, the reproductive rights issues will play big in this election.
I think it's the explosion of social media and the reiteration of movies in Hollywood , that has made American culture so pervasive and central to the world. Both these have created the unconsciously supported idea that the world SHOULD be interested in what is happening in the US. As one would be attached to a soap opera. From my perspective as a kid, I have always viewed the US as a movie. I thought Hollywood =US and that nothing there is real.Everything is fake, there are no real people or real deaths. It's all film and entertainment. It was silly. Yes. I was a kid🤣But I think that that is the world's idea really. Well, at least this country.To many here think that America is one big movie.A reality TV world. I don't think people personalize or concern themselves with what is happening in the US (in particular) from a "We care" perspective here.Not like they would in cases of other countries bordering us. They are more detached and watch with popcorn in hand because even though this is very serious to US people, people external think it's entertainment and something to talk about. An "escape" for the mind. Or a past-time My country is affected from a visceral level as to what is going on in neighbouring countries. As such we pay attention to that from a feeling perspective. Anything outside of that is viewed with less interest. Just debate on social media from an abstract level. Nothing more.
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girlwiththerainysoul Knowflake Posts: 2987 From: Registered: Jul 2016
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posted November 01, 2024 04:53 PM
Hahaha it was funny you didn't think US wasn't a real place as a kid. That's why I love childhood imagination.At one point I was convinced my parents were not my real mom and dad and I had to find the real ones no matter what. I even convinced my little sister of that LOL. But I was talking about Americans. Especially with the ongoing genocide, there really is no going back. This is no longer your racist grandfather's America. People are waking up (thanks to social media) and the governments better do too. We all now know where our taxes have been going and we certainly don't want to take part in bombing innocent people and children.
A lot of the big universities including MIT and Harvard have cut several Israel funds. The same thing happened in the US around Vietnam.
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Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 10971 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted November 02, 2024 03:44 AM
quote: Originally posted by girlwiththerainysoul: Hahaha it was funny you didn't think US wasn't a real place as a kid. That's why I love childhood imagination.At one point I was convinced my parents were not my real mom and dad and I had to find the real ones no matter what. I even convinced my little sister of that LOL. But I was talking about Americans. Especially with the ongoing genocide, there really is no going back. This is no longer your racist grandfather's America. People are waking up (thanks to social media) and the governments better do too. We all now know where our taxes have been going and we certainly don't want to take part in bombing innocent people and children.
A lot of the big universities including MIT and Harvard have cut several Israel funds. The same thing happened in the US around Vietnam.
Oh ok. I see. 👍🏿I wonder many times what world will be birthed by a mass awakening?🤔. And will I be alive to see it?😶 IP: Logged |
PlutoWasHere Knowflake Posts: 1051 From: The Nether World Registered: Mar 2021
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posted November 02, 2024 08:56 AM
quote: Originally posted by teasel: They’re going to go through my 6th house, too, and my mum was the same way - except for when we didn’t want to move, and she moved us anyway. She was more motivated, and consistently doing her thing, until she lost her business in 2007/2008. She slipped into alcoholism, and was depressed. I’m already there mental health wise, but not with alcohol.
I’m sorry Teasel. I know how heartbreaking it is to feel a loved one slip through your fingers. Depression is a terrible illness. I wouldn’t wish it upon my worst enemy. I hope that we will find an effective cure one day. Sending a hug. If you don’t mind me asking, what’s in your 5th house and what is the placement of your 5th house ruler? Any challenging aspects? IP: Logged |
Stawr Moderator Posts: 9323 From: N. America Registered: Nov 2010
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posted November 04, 2024 12:25 PM
All of this stuff at the later degrees is pretty stable in my chart. But I am so over certain things staying the same for me. Enjoy the boring mundane stagnant while it lasts????IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 10971 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted November 06, 2024 04:49 AM
quote: Originally posted by Aries23Degrees: The US election coming up will have Mars Cancer 29 and Plu Capricorn 29. Right on the edge of degrees.This to me suggests that the motives used to choose the President in 2024, would have changed by next year 2025. In other words, people will be focused elsewhere in their judgement of how effective the president is. The progressed chart for the US Democratic party has Sun 1Leo. Whilst for the Republican party, its 14Virgo. Saturn(planet of contraction and hardships) will be opposing the Republican party's progressed Sun 14Vir. Pluto( the planet of intense reform and influence) will be opposing the Democrats' prpgressed Sun 1 Leo. The latter to me of speaks of the candidate from the latter party (Dem)succeeding. But not without problems or extreme polarization. Since Transit Plu Aqua will be opposing the progresed Sun of the Democrats chart next year. This speaks of an administration whose time in office will at many times be at odds with what some members of the collective wants. It will have to manage deep divisions in the public I.e. some will support it fully. Whilst others will not recognize it and be resistant to it. Interestingly enough, the two candidates for either parties I.e. Trump(Rep) and Harris (Dem), both have Sun/Moon opposition. And this opposition speaks of balancing what one wants to do(Sun) vs. What is expected of them to do (Moon) Interesting times for the US.
Wowza!! I stand corrected. Trump appears to have won. Interesting thing is that the date set for this was November 4th(when I read it). But the time difference from Astro.com moved Mars from Cancer. A minor detail...yes. But the ramifications are different. In that it meant that the Plu-Mars opposition went out of sign (losing its potency by Mars separation). What's more...that Mars in Leo went into Trump's 1st house Leo Asc "trumping" Kamala's retrograde Jupiter in Gemini conj her Asc. What I thought would be strong oppositional feelings of "we don't want that"( as Mars In the day chart is malefic). Was a "yes, please. Give us more." It's apparent now that Jupiter Gem is closer seemed to Trump's Sun/Moon opp. And with that Mars in 1st house whole sign. That sealed the win. Next year(Jan 20 2025), trans Jup and Saturn sit on Trump's progressed Sun. But with Kamala, trans Nep continues to sit on her prog Sun(not so great). It would have made more sense to me to have Kamala win. That Plu sun/Moon natal aspect would have meant the US would continue to have greater subversive control in international politics. People would be less reactive to the country. With Trump, his Uranus on the Mc will be interesting. So people will be reactive to the US as US=Trump. Uranus goes into Gemini in 2025 (July) right after his birthday month. And so I wonder what transition will happen then? The press will focus on him.He is a celebrity President. And the people of the US have spoken; they would like a more inceptive energy President who is less politically correct(which Trump is). We have our own "Trump" in this country. However his popularity rose and fell because of his outspoken personality. I guess people here don't want to be alienated by the rest of the world.Because the guy does have some pretty strong views and may upset the apple cart. Something our country can't afford to see happen. But the US is a different kettle of fish. They want more direct energy (as opposed to our passive President). I just hope that he'll be able (this time) to bridge the gap created by the polarized ideas of the nation. It's unlikely he will. But it wouldn't hurt to try.🙏🏿
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teasel Knowflake Posts: 29246 From: Here Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 06, 2024 04:57 AM
quote: Originally posted by PlutoWasHere: I’m sorry Teasel. I know how heartbreaking it is to feel a loved one slip through your fingers. Depression is a terrible illness. I wouldn’t wish it upon my worst enemy. I hope that we will find an effective cure one day. Sending a hug. If you don’t mind me asking, what’s in your 5th house and what is the placement of your 5th house ruler? Any challenging aspects?
5th house is Pisces and Aries. Jupiter in the 5th, opposed by Pluto, and square Saturn. Sextile Venus, trine Neptune, and the MC. IP: Logged |
Belage Knowflake Posts: 7281 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 06, 2024 12:25 PM
The waiting game for Pluto is over. With the re-election of Donald Trump, the US has completed its Pluto return. Pluto can now leave Capricorn, having done its job of having us reassess, challenge and transform power in its many forms, corporate power, political power, media power, Big Pharma power, shady Deep State power, people's power etc. The New World Order's agenda has been taken down, at least in the US. IP: Logged |
PlutoWasHere Knowflake Posts: 1051 From: The Nether World Registered: Mar 2021
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posted November 07, 2024 05:58 PM
quote: Originally posted by teasel: 5th house is Pisces and Aries. Jupiter in the 5th, opposed by Pluto, and square Saturn. Sextile Venus, trine Neptune, and the MC.
So you have a t-square with Jupiter, Pluto and Saturn? That can give a lot of tension. Pluto and Saturn in harsh aspect are not easy. And Saturn is in the 8th house? That would make processing traumatic events challenging. The 8th house is a very vulnerable place, with Saturn there it’s about enduring, hard work and even struggle. Saturn is the karmic teacher. It does come with rewards but not without painful lessons. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 29246 From: Here Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 08, 2024 11:21 PM
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teasel Knowflake Posts: 29246 From: Here Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 08, 2024 11:22 PM
quote: Originally posted by Belage: The waiting game for Pluto is over. With the re-election of Donald Trump, the US has completed its Pluto return. Pluto can now leave Capricorn, having done its job of having us reassess, challenge and transform power in its many forms, corporate power, political power, media power, Big Pharma power, shady Deep State power, people's power etc. The New World Order's agenda has been taken down, at least in the US.
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teasel Knowflake Posts: 29246 From: Here Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 08, 2024 11:22 PM
quote: Originally posted by PlutoWasHere: So you have a t-square with Jupiter, Pluto and Saturn? That can give a lot of tension. Pluto and Saturn in harsh aspect are not easy. And Saturn is in the 8th house? That would make processing traumatic events challenging. The 8th house is a very vulnerable place, with Saturn there it’s about enduring, hard work and even struggle. Saturn is the karmic teacher. It does come with rewards but not without painful lessons.
Saturn is in the 9th, according to Placidus. Pluto int he 11th or 12th, depending on which house system you use. And thanks. IP: Logged |
girlwiththerainysoul Knowflake Posts: 2987 From: Registered: Jul 2016
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posted November 09, 2024 07:38 AM
quote: Originally posted by Belage: The waiting game for Pluto is over. With the re-election of Donald Trump, the US has completed its Pluto return. Pluto can now leave Capricorn, having done its job of having us reassess, challenge and transform power in its many forms, corporate power, political power, media power, Big Pharma power, shady Deep State power, people's power etc. The New World Order's agenda has been taken down, at least in the US.
I don’t think so. He certainly couldn’t make those changes you mentioned when he was in office. The only things Donald Trump knows how to do are to deport, disrespect women, sell weapons to the Middle East and cut taxes for the rich. He has very little of anything else planned. Say hello to the New World Chaos. The US really just beginning to try what Europe already went through and failed with decades ago. IP: Logged |
Stawr Moderator Posts: 9323 From: N. America Registered: Nov 2010
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posted November 09, 2024 07:50 AM
It’s been good energy for a spiritual awakening. Pluto is in my 9th house conjunct my 9th house Saturn. And obviously Neptune in Pisces is enough of its self to be one no matter what house. (11 for me) Taurus is my 12th house where Uranus is! Buckle up! The full moon in Taurus will conjunct Uranus! This happened about two years ago! But it was extra hardcore because it was an eclipse. It opposed my Scorpio stellium squares my nodes and mc but trined my 8 house Capricorn stuff. I left my ex husband that day it was no joke for me. This time having it in the later degrees it will Exactly trine my Saturn Capricorn house 9 Square my Aquarius Mars house 10 IP: Logged |
Stawr Moderator Posts: 9323 From: N. America Registered: Nov 2010
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posted November 10, 2024 05:51 AM
quote: Originally posted by Aries23Degrees: It's been quite taxing overall.
It’s basically all I know about adulthood. Since 2023 I keep getting put with teachers who want to work past their time and don’t care that I’m not about that life. I kind of want to work with teachers who are about leaving on time. The teacher I work with now will ask me if I’m planning on leaving on time? What do you think?! And wonders why I am not enthusiastic about being friends. IP: Logged |
Preppyarcher7989Wiff Knowflake Posts: 520 From: United States Registered: Jan 2024
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posted November 10, 2024 11:10 AM
quote: Originally posted by Belage: The waiting game for Pluto is over. With the re-election of Donald Trump, the US has completed its Pluto return. Pluto can now leave Capricorn, having done its job of having us reassess, challenge and transform power in its many forms, corporate power, political power, media power, Big Pharma power, shady Deep State power, people's power etc. The New World Order's agenda has been taken down, at least in the US.
Not yet. The Pluto Return is still in orb until about 2031. ------------------ Happiness is easy to find. IP: Logged |