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Belage
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posted November 12, 2024 06:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by girlwiththerainysoul:
I don’t think so. He certainly couldn’t make those changes you mentioned when he was in office. The only things Donald Trump knows how to do are to deport, disrespect women, sell weapons to the Middle East and cut taxes for the rich. He has very little of anything else planned.

Say hello to the New World Chaos. The US really just beginning to try what Europe already went through and failed with decades ago.



The same talking points regurgitated ad nauseum by the bought and paid for legacy mainstream media and the brainless celebrities for the past 8 years.

The American people just said a big FU to all of that.

The once powerful media and celebrities woke up on November 6 to find out that the majority of the country no longer gives a fug what they think. Oh the shock!

If you cannot see Pluto's hand there in the way Big media for instance has gone down in flames, with new players emerging like outsider Joe Rogan who they vilified during Covid and tried to cancel, well, I don't know what to say. I am open to hearing YOUR interpretation of Pluto in Capricorn having done its job and how the surprise election result fits with it.

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posted November 12, 2024 12:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlwiththerainysoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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The same talking points regurgitated ad nauseum by the bought and paid for legacy mainstream media and the brainless celebrities for the past 8 years.

The American people just said a big FU to all of that.

The once powerful media and celebrities woke up on November 6 to find out that the majority of the country no longer gives a fug what they think. Oh the shock!

If you cannot see Pluto's hand there in the way Big media for instance has gone down in flames, with new players emerging like outsider Joe Rogan who they vilified during Covid and tried to cancel, well, I don't know what to say. I am open to hearing YOUR interpretation of Pluto in Capricorn having done its job and how the surprise election result fits with it. [/B]


Chill. The Devil usually has the largest number of followers. Hitler had a large following as well.

And I'm not talking about conservatives. I'm talking about hardcore Trumpers who fall for his lies.

As an independent I could personally care less about Harris or Democrats. I've posted here a few times about how awful I find Beyonce and Swift. But the thing is with Trump the US is going to get closer to going down.

Even some of my close friends who are republicans are against Trump as an individual but voted for him anyway because of the party. They're sane enough not to rejoice over his not so glorious win and are already dreading the impeding chaos that is going to very soon ensue.

But imagine being giddy over electing a felon. How shameful and trashy. What makes it worse is to be sure it has a planetary reason! Something even master astrologers never claim to be so sure of.

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posted November 12, 2024 03:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As to be expected, zero astrological insight, plenty of political rant and shaming with the usual orange man = funny mustache man.

Oh, best believe, I am CHILLING! LOL! The meltdown is not coming from my side.

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posted November 12, 2024 04:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for frida     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
🧘‍♂️🧘‍♂️🧘‍♂️ I don’t know if it has anything to do with Pluto, late degrees etc, but I feel like I’m dropping the weight slowly and staring to feel the light. The weight of feeling like there’s no way out of the machine - my own, collective, world, all of it. Last summer I had nightmares that everybody is committing collective suicide and I was desperately looking for ways to escape.

I feel hopeful, even when it comes to politics. Things have to start moving somehow. I also feel more hopeful that I can personally have more fulfilling work (Pluto just entered my 6th house) and that I’ll make my way out of stifling situations. And feel that light and joy of life (that was crushed in recent years) fully, every day 💜

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posted November 12, 2024 04:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlwiththerainysoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Belage:
As to be expected, zero astrological insight, plenty of political rant and shaming with the usual orange man = funny mustache man.

Oh, best believe, I am CHILLING! LOL! The meltdown is not coming from my side.


Haha nice comeback. Says the person who ranted about Pluto the minor planet, which is still about to retrograde, having to do with an election on one side of the world.

Large egos, lack of education and low iq are common denominator of Trumpers. And a reflection of American demographic. It's expected though, since most of Trump supporters live off of government support, reside in parents' basements well beyond 40s, and procreate offspring without considering their financial situation. Hence them outnumbering the rival party.

I was in Manhattan over the weekend to see David Gilmour, and huge protests were going on against Trump. Later that evening a truck passed by with a flag of the orange man sticking out and was severely booed by hundreds of folks walking by.

Anybody cultured, educated and sane would not support Trump and see him as their idol even if they despise dems or liberals.

You need to chill because he won't be president forever. Project much lol? I could care less about either party, and I am even glad that Kamala the hypocrite lost, however Trump is simply vile and full of hate. You've clearly reflected him though so great job.

Glad to hear you're not melting down, and why should you since your demographic's logic said that if he loses the election wouldn't be legit but since he won it is. The world is laughing at your reasoning capacity lol.

I'm pretty sure this section isn't to get political, and I don't want to offend any member who views differently from me, but since you were arrogant enough to get Astrology involved, I had to respond to your nonsense. Let's agree we do not like each other and avoid future interaction. But I won't promise not to call you out on astrological BS (which you seem to think you're so full of "insights" of).


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posted November 12, 2024 05:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, you are the cultured, educated and sane ones -Though the meltdown Tiktok videos prove otherwise...LOL. And we have large egos, lack of education and low IQ. You forgot to say, unwashed too! The basket full of deplorables...Must be so hard to interact with the hoi polloi, oh noble elite...

Nothing like condescension and smug elitism to win elections. Keep thinking like you do!

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posted November 14, 2024 08:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlwiththerainysoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Belage

One thing I am personally worried about, is that racial hate crimes like the homicide of George Floyd, will repeat themseleves. Because with a hateful leader, his followers within the organizations find it easier to express their hate as well (example: Pompeo plotting to assasinate Julian Assange. Julian Assange testifies that CIA under Pompeo's directions plotted to kill him and hurt his infant son .

We can expect hate crimes and abuse against women to run rampant as well, and this is pretty sad because it's going to be against women of all races and even those who supported him by voting for him. It sounds pessimistic but I know based on history patterns it will be the case.


Trump is a warmonger and his government is nothing without igniting wars, and then selling weapons in order to steal the middle east's oil. We see that confirmed in the fact that he's already handpicked some of the most aggressive individuals who want war with Mexico, China, Russia and Iran. He is old and already rambles just like Biden, and it's pretty clear it's his team that will run the country. Trump's pick of Matt Gaetz for attorney general a shock even to Republicans

Brace yourself Syria. War criminal Donny is coming for you. He's going to assassinate your leader Assad in the name of democracy, just so he will have an easier time stealing your oil. The Guardian: Donald Trump says US left troops in Syria 'only for the oil'
☝️Shameless and despicable

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posted November 14, 2024 08:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlwiththerainysoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Belage

Astrology note:

If you MUST find an astrology reason to support your wrong choice, at least read an astrology basics book or two. When it comes to world events, usually Jupiter, Saturn and Mars, and sometimes Venus, are in play. And it is a combination of planetray aspects and midpoints among them and not one single planet alone. Plus, the planets and their combinations, only resonate with what's going on. They don't "create" an event. That's why horary astrology (an ancient art that remains valid even without recongnizing Pluto, Uranus, and Neptune) works, because by looking at a chart you're able to see what's going on, and it's not that the chart itself has caused something. lol. Shocking (but perhaps not so much) coming from someone with thousands of posts. I feel bad for anybody you've misled by giving astrology "insight" across the years, and there may have been many since you clearly continue refusing to read and research.

By the way planets never influence the human will. The choice of picking a predator, a war criminal, a liar and a felon belongs to your conscious only.

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posted November 14, 2024 08:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlwiththerainysoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Yeah, you are the cultured, educated and sane ones -Though the meltdown Tiktok videos prove otherwise...LOL. And we have large egos, lack of education and low IQ. You forgot to say, unwashed too! The basket full of deplorables...Must be so hard to interact with the hoi polloi, oh noble elite...

Nothing like condescension and smug elitism to win elections. Keep thinking like you do!


The elite is the person who resides at Mar-a-Lago and has tight ties with secret societies yet lies about being a Christian to deceive the masses.
I am not on Tiktok but how short-sighted of you to judge me based on Tiktok. It is ridiculous that you had no reply to the points I made yet decided to make it easy for yourself to get out of the conversation by labeling me an "elite"!

After reading your posts, I don't need proof to know that you're very uneducated my friend. The opposite of culture and education isn't elitism.

Knowledge and culture poverty is worse than financial poverty. According to Michio Kaku US's average iq has been declining for years. Most of our scientists are coming from other countries. His exact words though were the "stupidity index".

Am I happy Kamala lost? Yes. Am I happy a criminal and a predator won? No. I don't wish to offend anybody who thinks like you, but the demography of the election results reveals enough.


I don't directly blame the lack of knowledge of your demographic for electing him, it was the wrongdoing of the party for picking him as the candidate and obviously powers higher that wish to bring us all chaos. You however seemed unhinged with your extreme post about Pluto and raving about how great Trump is going to make everything. You clearly forget he was in office before and didn't do anything "great", but took economy to the point of breaking.

We know that the winner of US elections has always been the person who campaigns the most. A lot of powerful yet unknown characters invested in Trump and elected him. In an unfair two-party system whatever the result it's the people who lose, and the rich keep getting richer (and in his case bellies keep getting bigger).

You raving about Trump sounds much like how peasants in France used to think the rich king was their idol before the revolution. Or later how Hilter and Stalin attracted large crowds with mottos and politics very similar to Trump's. Their followers outnumbered others as well, and they also had a lot of military power and influence, but they fell off grace anyway.

These days across the net you constantly see Trump's fans trolling day and night. You all need to get a job very soon, because Trump is going to cut your benefits. America turn off Fox News and start reading and researching for a change.

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posted November 15, 2024 11:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Girlwitharainysoul

In your post # 2963, paragraph 7, you said "let's agree we do not like each other and avoid future interaction." I gave my reply and I was done.

Are you now wanting further interaction?

I see you made 3 additional posts addressing me, and I have not read them. I will NOT read them unless you are using astrology to rebut the astrology based post I made which triggered you. I am not interested in going back and forth with you politically here. This is the astrology forum, astrologers have been using astrology on this and other forums to explain political events, so I was not reinventing the wheel. If you didn't like what i said, REBUT ME USING ASTROLOGY!

So are your 3 previous posts addressed to me astrology based yes or no? That is what I care about.

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posted November 16, 2024 11:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlwiththerainysoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The criminal president elect and his illiterate team continuesly confuse assylum seekers with insane assylums, yet the powers above know well to pair him with Elon Musk to shut off any dispute about him being out of touch with science.

With the president-bar now set to its lowest, gaslighting of the masses is happening at a large scale in this country, making sure there's something to satisfy everyone within the knowledge-poor demographic.

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posted November 16, 2024 11:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlwiththerainysoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Girlwitharainysoul

In your post # 2963, paragraph 7, you said "let's agree we do not like each other and avoid future interaction." I gave my reply and I was done.

Are you now wanting further interaction?


Far from it. I see no point with it because we don't see eye-to-eye. But you also should read that part where I mentioned I will continue to point out any BS especially coming from you astrology-wise. Just because I love this forum and astrology not because I am interested in talking to you!

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posted November 16, 2024 04:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Far from it. I see no point with it because we don't see eye-to-eye. But you also should read that part where I mentioned I will continue to point out any BS especially coming from you astrology-wise. Just because I love this forum and astrology not because I am interested in talking to you!

Do whatever you want. I give zero fuc!

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posted November 16, 2024 04:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Not yet. The Pluto Return is still in orb until about 2031.


Interesting. Are you allowing for a 12 to 15 degree orb before the Pluto return is complete? What is your reasoning for that?

I can agree that the return is not yet complete because it is still in a 2-3 degree orb. Certain institutions like health organizations, DOJ, FBI, CIA, Big Pharma will require some time to be upended, but a 12-15 degree orb, and in a different sign at that, seems a bit much...

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posted November 16, 2024 04:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Preppyarcher7989Wiff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Interesting. Are you allowing for a 12 to 15 degree orb before the Pluto return is complete? What is your reasoning for that?

I can agree that the return is not yet complete because it is still in a 2-3 degree orb, but a 12-15 degree orb, and in a different sign at that, seems a bit much...


Just 10 degrees.

Although, I'm not sure you (or I), can mathematically measure a Pluto Return, too precisely.

It reminds me of the huge Aquarius stellium of 1962. We saw the effects of that all the way until the mid-1970's, to late 1980's, imo.

Also, don't forget, Pluto in Aquarius is also transiting America's natal Moon in Aquarius. Ever since Pluto hit our 12 degrees Ascendant in Sagittarius, around 2000/2001, America has been transforming.


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posted November 16, 2024 05:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Just 10 degrees.

Although, I'm not sure you (or I), can mathematically measure a Pluto Return, too precisely.

It reminds me of the huge Aquarius stellium of 1962. We saw the effects of that all the way until the mid-1970's, to late 1980's, imo.

Also, don't forget, Pluto in Aquarius is also transiting America's natal Moon in Aquarius. Ever since Pluto hit our 12 degrees Ascendant in Sagittarius, around 2000/2001, America has been transforming.




I think a stellium would naturally have a bigger orb because each planet adds magnitude and power therefore the reach or orb of the stellium is greater.

And yes, America has moon in Aqua, at 21 degrees if I am not mistaken, so there are still deep transformations ahead though they would not be part of the Pluto Return in Capp. Capricorn rules institutions, big institutions, big business, government and the use of power.

I am going to re-examine American history from 1776 to 1796 to see if there are any indications that might help me understand when the Pluto in Capp influence was over.

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posted November 16, 2024 07:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for frida     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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And yes, America has moon in Aqua, at 21 degrees if I am not mistaken, so there are still deep transformations ahead though they would not be part of the Pluto Return in Capp. Capricorn rules institutions, big institutions, big business, government and the use of power.

I am going to re-examine American history from 1776 to 1796 to see if there are any indications that might help me understand when the Pluto in Capp influence was over.


Moon at 27 degrees Aquarius. Transit Uranus will be squaring that moon until 2026. Changes!

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posted November 17, 2024 06:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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The same talking points regurgitated ad nauseum by the bought and paid for legacy mainstream media and the brainless celebrities for the past 8 years.

The American people just said a big FU to all of that.

The once powerful media and celebrities woke up on November 6 to find out that the majority of the country no longer gives a fug what they think. Oh the shock!

If you cannot see Pluto's hand there in the way Big media for instance has gone down in flames, with new players emerging like outsider Joe Rogan who they vilified during Covid and tried to cancel, well, I don't know what to say. I am open to hearing YOUR interpretation of Pluto in Capricorn having done its job and how the surprise election result fits with it.


He barely won, they didn’t say a big FU.

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posted November 17, 2024 06:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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As to be expected, zero astrological insight, plenty of political rant and shaming with the usual orange man = funny mustache man.

Oh, best believe, I am CHILLING! LOL! The meltdown is not coming from my side.


No, but it *was*. January 6th, for one. I’ll save the rest of my comments for GU.

Okay, one thing: I would like the astrology for the months of accusations that the dems were cheating. Those claims disappeared, late on November 5th. You can respond in GU, if you want to.

The mainstream media also bolstered trump. They sanewashed him.

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posted November 17, 2024 09:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlwiththerainysoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Do whatever you want. I give zero fuc!


Good for you. Could have said it with better language.

You and I obviously don't agree on key points, who knows maybe we have square or opposite Jupiters. And I acknowledge this is not the appropriate forum to have a political discussion, but to reiterate my point, America needs to wake up and see that Trump's win has nothing to do with him or the circus of unqualified individuals he keeps appointing, but more to do with whoever sitting up there who is willing to endorse him at the RNC, rather than a qualified candidate for the conservatives, to cause chaos for the US.

I can see people being sick with Dems and going for Trump as the lesser of the two evils in their view, but I have no respect for hardcore Trumpers who are unwilling to see him for who he is.

And again you need to chill at the idea of Pluto being about Trump. You could have at least mentioned something in the US chart to sound more valid or created actual astrology discussion. You just went after my comment by saying a few extreme sentences and didn't even explain why Pluto has to do with it.


Anyway, best wished and I sincerely hope for all of our sakes that you continue to be happy with your choice.

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posted November 17, 2024 09:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlwiththerainysoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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He barely won, they didn’t say a big FU.

I have no clue why they keep repeating he won BIG! He really won by a small margin.

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Okay, one thing: I would like the astrology for the months of accusations that the dems were cheating. Those claims disappeared, late on November 5th. You can respond in GU, if you want to. [/B]


This. ☝️
How is it that now that he's won the claims of fraud have suddenly quieted down? Doesn't than mean that he won in a "falsified" election that they were screaming about days before? I guess not, according to their reasoning.

What's funnier is I've read them still repeating that Biden won in 2020 because Dems cheated, and not because Trump actually lost! Lol

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posted November 17, 2024 03:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Moon at 27 degrees Aquarius. Transit Uranus will be squaring that moon until 2026. Changes!

Interesting, yep. Thanks for the correction about the degrees!

At some point, transit Jupiter in Gemini should provide some support by trining the moon 1x or 2x in 2025.

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Lots has happened this past few months with Plu retro in Cap and it going direct. Right now it's at a point of leaving. It will enter Aqua again in a couple of hours.

I am relieved to say that there have been no commitments made on the last stretch of Plu in Cap on my end. Everything new will coincide with the Plu in Aqua transit.

Pluto will be transiting the 11th (whole sign). When it initially started in March
2023, I was in an organization that was all about "group" consensus. And so I wonder if the same will come about again?

Add to this, Sat/Jup in Aqua coincided with co-vid, a period where we all had to align with group consensus. Not fun. And add to that, the trans Ura square suggested a very disruptive period.

June 22-26th 2025 sees Sun Cancer reacting with Jup Cancer, Saturn Ari and Nep Ari. This energy should be interesting 🤔

Neptune however is still lingering in the 27th degree of Pisces.

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Plu is in Aqua 🙌🏿👏🏿🎉🎊🎆🎆🎆

Out with the old. In with the up and coming.

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Plu is in Aqua 🙌🏿👏🏿🎉🎊🎆🎆🎆

Out with the old. In with the up and coming.


🙌🎉💃💪
To the new beginning! Good luck everyone!

I choose to be optimistic.

Pluto entered my 6th house and I have a lot of Aquarius placements. All I want is to take full ownership of my work, be independent and run some form of business.

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