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Preppyarcher7989Wiff
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posted November 20, 2024 01:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Preppyarcher7989Wiff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Plu is in Aqua 🙌🏿👏🏿🎉🎊🎆🎆🎆

Out with the old. In with the up and coming.


Expect the unexpected, I say!

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posted November 20, 2024 03:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^^Absolutely 🤣

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posted November 27, 2024 12:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoWasHere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think things will really get freaky around July 2025 when Uranus will move into Gemini for the first time. Neptune will be in Aries at that time as well.

I’m not an U.S. citizen but I’m worried about the appointments Trump has made so far. They may be loyal to him, but they might go at each other. Looking at the birth chart of Vance and Musk, I wouldn’t be surprised if they go head to head. And it makes sense. Vance is going to be VP but Trump has given Musk a lot of influence. I doubt that Vance is happy about this. Musk has Saturn in early Gemini and Vance has his north node there. Vance also has his Leo Venus opposite Musk’s Aquarius Mars. They could really trigger each other.

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posted November 27, 2024 08:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Lots has happened this past few months with Plu retro in Cap and it going direct. Right now it's at a point of leaving. It will enter Aqua again in a couple of hours.

I am relieved to say that there have been no commitments made on the last stretch of Plu in Cap on my end. Everything new will coincide with the Plu in Aqua transit.

Pluto will be transiting the 11th (whole sign). When it initially started in March
2023, I was in an organization that was all about "group" consensus. And so I wonder if the same will come about again?

Add to this, Sat/Jup in Aqua coincided with co-vid, a period where we all had to align with group consensus. Not fun. And add to that, the trans Ura square suggested a very disruptive period.

June 22-26th 2025 sees Sun Cancer reacting with Jup Cancer, Saturn Ari and Nep Ari. This energy should be interesting 🤔

Neptune however is still lingering in the 27th degree of Pisces.


Some worrying things are being promised.

It’s going to be in my third house until 14*Aquarius. Using whole sign, it’s now in my fourth.

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posted November 27, 2024 08:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Preppyarcher7989Wiff:
Expect the unexpected, I say!


That’s more Uranus, but Pluto can be an as*hole.

I’ve just realized that transiting Uranus is semi-sextile my ceres, Chiron, sun.

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posted November 27, 2024 08:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I think things will really get freaky around July 2025 when Uranus will move into Gemini for the first time. Neptune will be in Aries at that time as well.

This is what I’m worried about, just because of the way it hits my chart, and my dad’s.

Although Saturn and Pluto for us, in early 2023, was horrific, and one of the worst times of my life.

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posted November 28, 2024 05:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoWasHere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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This is what I’m worried about, just because of the way it hits my chart, and my dad’s.

Although Saturn and Pluto for us, in early 2023, was horrific, and one of the worst times of my life.


I can understand how this makes you nervous. But change isn’t necessarily a bad thing. When Uranus hit my Venus I got divorced. Even though this sounds bad, it was really for the best. My marriage was making me miserable, I have no regrets I got divorced. It saved my mental health. Uranus can help you to bring change when you’re stuck in a bad situation.

Looking at the previous time frame of Uranus in Gemini, 1941-1948, there are obvious parallels. I wouldn’t be surprised if things will escalate into trade wars, because politicians resist the need for freedom Uranus symbolizes. Mercury is the god of trade, and rules Gemini. It’s going to be a ride.

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posted November 28, 2024 05:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Preppyarcher7989Wiff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I think things will really get freaky around July 2025 when Uranus will move into Gemini for the first time. Neptune will be in Aries at that time as well.

I’m not an U.S. citizen but I’m worried about the appointments Trump has made so far. They may be loyal to him, but they might go at each other. Looking at the birth chart of Vance and Musk, I wouldn’t be surprised if they go head to head. And it makes sense. Vance is going to be VP but Trump has given Musk a lot of influence. I doubt that Vance is happy about this. Musk has Saturn in early Gemini and Vance has his north node there. Vance also has his Leo Venus opposite Musk’s Aquarius Mars. They could really trigger each other.


Yes, I can see things be crazy, or even violent, 2025, and after. I don't see a Civil War, but maybe, and unfortunately, political terrorism, from the mentally ill and/or the fanatical.

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posted December 07, 2024 02:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Neptune goes direct today.

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posted December 07, 2024 05:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by teasel:
Some worrying things are being promised.

It’s going to be in my third house until 14*Aquarius. Using whole sign, it’s now in my fourth.


When in your 4th, it should usher in structural changes in the home life.

I have started checking declinations too. Some revealing stuff there that we shouldn't overlook

According to them, Plu is on my Merc/Jup/Sun by parallel aspect. It's no wonder I have been feeling like death is the only thing that makes sense for my life right now😶

My cousin had a beautiful send-off today. The whole family was gathered to see her off. This was an Ic issue and sure enough, transiting Mars in Leo retro is parallel my Natal IC. And transiting Saturn is parallel the Dsc(relationship changes as a result of a structural shift in the family).

Sometimes the longitudinal aspects don't capture the energy of what you are going through. Make sure you look at declinations too.

I find that the the combined aspects of Asc Dsc and Ic/Mc are very powerful.

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posted December 08, 2024 10:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So.... I went back to look at US history from 1776 to 1789, but it is hard to determine what is solely the influence of Pluto and the influence of other planets in the events that occurred. So I will just restrict my analysis to current events as they unfolded in the US.

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posted December 08, 2024 10:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The entry of Pluto in Aquarius coming after Pluto in Capricorn represents the emergence and power of citizen journalism and social media influencers. When Pluto leaves a sign, something often dies or is greatly transformed.

In the sphere of information, as Pluto left Capricorn, mainstream legacy media which had been around for decades, and carried an aura of respectability and professionalism (all positive Capricornian qualities) no longer wields the power it once had. This did not occur by happenstance. For years now, through that media, there had been intense power struggles to legislate, regulate, censor, deplatform, cancel information and opinions that did not conform to the official system of thought. And those attempts from the most part came from people or agencies in position of power, and also came from the government.

At their worst, Capricornian elements can be snobbish, and condescending, turning up their noses a those they feel are beneath them. They respect degrees more than actual knowledge, titles more than actual qualifications and lived experience.

In the field of information, Pluto in Aquarius is going to get some support from Neptune when it enters Aries next year, and Uranus when it enters Gemini next year. These 3 planets interacting through trine and sextile in air and fire signs will stimulate the free flow of information. Information can be information as we know it, it can also be currency, as we see Cryptos coming back to life.

As it is with every area that Pluto enters, there will be excesses, and death and transformation. Aquarius can be, um, excessive, and does not really care about your feelings. So there is no telling how this will end by the time Pluto will be ready to leave Aquarius. We shall see...

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posted December 11, 2024 12:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Preppyarcher7989Wiff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pluto in Aquarius and now we have drones flying over many places in the United States.

They just seem like flying cars, to me. But, they could be driven by some people from other countries.

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posted December 11, 2024 07:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I feel like I have talked a lot about Plu on this thread. But now that it has ingressed to Aqua, that is another conversation/thread that deserves its own attention.

I mentioned that Pluto in Cap would surface issues related to boundaries, authorities, law and order,rules and regulations, reputation etc.

And that Plu transiting Natal Sun in Cap people, would either have them come into contact with these issues mentioned above OR be the implementor of them etc.

But what about Neptune in Pisces OR Uranus in Tau? The two continue to transit on the edge of signs Pisces and Tau respectively. What are they doing?🤔

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posted December 12, 2024 01:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:

But what about Neptune in Pisces OR Uranus in Tau? The two continue to transit on the edge of signs Pisces and Tau respectively. What are they doing?🤔


Neptune leaving Pisces would signal to me the end of the manipulation and deception from the drug companies. I think Neptune rules pharmaceuticals and drugs of all kinds. Neptune is in its natural house in Pisces, but that does not mean that it cannot be used negatively by certain forces. Especially as it stood opposite Virgo, the sign that rules health.

As for Uranus in Taurus. Taurus is normally a pretty conservative element that plays it safe and is slow to anger and take action. Uranus there has shaken things up, and we have seen conservatives getting out of their comfort zone to challenge the system in ways we had not seen before.

We have also seen people who would normally not consider themselves conservative, change in unpredictable ways and move toward more conservative thought systems. Ex Rogan and Musk. And yours truly... It does not mean such people are going to remain in conservative spheres for the rest of their lives though...

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posted December 12, 2024 02:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Neptune leaving Pisces would signal to me the end of the manipulation and deception from the drug companies.

And insurance companies.

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posted December 12, 2024 09:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Belage:
Neptune leaving Pisces would signal to me the end of the manipulation and deception from the drug companies. I think Neptune rules pharmaceuticals and drugs of all kinds. Neptune is in its natural house in Pisces, but that does not mean that it cannot be used negatively by certain forces. Especially as it stood opposite Virgo, the sign that rules health.

As for Uranus in Taurus. Taurus is normally a pretty conservative element that plays it safe and is slow to anger and take action. Uranus there has shaken things up, and we have seen conservatives getting out of their comfort zone to challenge the system in ways we had not seen before.

We have also seen people who would normally not consider themselves conservative, change in unpredictable ways and move toward more conservative thought systems. Ex Rogan and Musk. And yours truly... It does not mean such people are going to remain in conservative spheres for the rest of their lives though...


With my observation so many millennials have quit drinking. Including myself, I did not see it coming at all since people who don’t drink can sometimes behave like total narcs. Lol!

So many adaptogens(sp?) are on the market too.

I’ve see a lot of caffeine alternatives too lately

I don’t think weed is legal everywhere but it’s taken off in my state so much that you smell it everywhere.

I also quit that.

I’ve even seen CBD drinks as a booze alternative

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posted December 12, 2024 12:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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And insurance companies.


I could be wrong but I am not convinced Neptune rules insurance companies, especially health insurance companies.

To me, insurance companies are more like a business gamble, something with Gemini and Capricornian elements. In the matter of health, insurance companies have an added Virgoan element, they are gambling that the pool of sick subscribers will be small enough compared to the healthy to enable them to make a profit. If the pool of sick people becomes large, then in order to make a profit, they need to raise their premiums, or deny benefits.

It is possible that Saturn in Pisces is bringing a reckoning to the Gemini/Virgo elements of Health insurance companies.

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posted December 12, 2024 12:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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With my observation so many millennials have quit drinking. Including myself, I did not see it coming at all since people who don’t drink can sometimes behave like total narcs. Lol!

So many adaptogens(sp?) are on the market too.

I’ve see a lot of caffeine alternatives too lately

I don’t think weed is legal everywhere but it’s taken off in my state so much that you smell it everywhere.

I also quit that.

I’ve even seen CBD drinks as a booze alternative


Could Saturn in Pisces be responsible for people quitting drinking?

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posted December 12, 2024 01:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for frida     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Could Saturn in Pisces be responsible for people quitting drinking?

I think that’s been a trend for a while now. Younger generations drink less and use less drugs too. I don’t know the statistics but my feeling based on what I see around me is that nowadays there’s increased use of mushrooms and decrease in alcohol.

Coincidence or not, I don’t drink at all (or extremely rarely) since Neptune entered Pisces, right after hitting my Sun and Mercury at 28* Aquarius (I’ve never used other things).

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posted December 13, 2024 03:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Could Saturn in Pisces be responsible for people quitting drinking?

Absolutely. I first started to quit vaping in May 2023…and it’s just been a domino effect.

Compared to previous generations who drink socially or to unwind…it just seems normal for people to quit drinking in their late 20’s now.

I did not see it coming for me at all.

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posted December 13, 2024 09:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe the bigger planets have something to do with this, but it seems that things that have worked for me for a long time just don’t seem to work for me anymore.

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posted December 13, 2024 09:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I could be wrong but I am not convinced Neptune rules insurance companies, especially health insurance companies.

To me, insurance companies are more like a business gamble, something with Gemini and Capricornian elements. In the matter of health, insurance companies have an added Virgoan element, they are gambling that the pool of sick subscribers will be small enough compared to the healthy to enable them to make a profit. If the pool of sick people becomes large, then in order to make a profit, they need to raise their premiums, or deny benefits.

It is possible that Saturn in Pisces is bringing a reckoning to the Gemini/Virgo elements of Health insurance companies.


Neptune sextile Uranus, and Pluto entering Aquarius, has brought us a new version of Robin Hood, for a lot of people.

On drinking: I very rarely drink. I don’t like the way it makes me feel, and have no interest in getting smashed. I still haven’t tried marijuana, either. I’m not into drugs.

In the nineties, there were the straight-edge kids. No alcohol, no drugs. They might have been vegetarians, too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straight_edge

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posted December 13, 2024 03:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Neptune sextile Uranus, and Pluto entering Aquarius, has brought us a new version of Robin Hood, for a lot of people.

That sounds very astrologically plausible and makes a lot of sense.


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posted December 20, 2024 05:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoWasHere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Preppyarcher7989Wiff:
Yes, I can see things be crazy, or even violent, 2025, and after. I don't see a Civil War, but maybe, and unfortunately, political terrorism, from the mentally ill and/or the fanatical.


Civil War would be extreme, but violence and civil unrest seem more and more plausible. I’ve been thinking about what I see in the charts of Vance and Musk. And honestly, a scenario where Trump is sidelined because of his health isn’t “out there”. He’s 78 and is going to be the oldest president of the U.S. ever. And that’s when things could get very unhinged. But even if Musk just keeps growing his influence, people will get restless because he’s unelected.

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