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Aries23Degrees
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posted December 20, 2024 03:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Belage:
Neptune leaving Pisces would signal to me the end of the manipulation and deception from the drug companies. I think Neptune rules pharmaceuticals and drugs of all kinds. Neptune is in its natural house in Pisces, but that does not mean that it cannot be used negatively by certain forces. Especially as it stood opposite Virgo, the sign that rules health.

As for Uranus in Taurus. Taurus is normally a pretty conservative element that plays it safe and is slow to anger and take action. Uranus there has shaken things up, and we have seen conservatives getting out of their comfort zone to challenge the system in ways we had not seen before.

We have also seen people who would normally not consider themselves conservative, change in unpredictable ways and move toward more conservative thought systems. Ex Rogan and Musk. And yours truly... It does not mean such people are going to remain in conservative spheres for the rest of their lives though...


Interesting.🤔. Thank you for that. I am still observing Uranus in Taurus.

This country(South Africa)is in my opinion, extremely sensitive to Neptune on Pisces. Spirituality and related issues has increased exponentially in this country.

There are TV programs exploring these issues, celebrities coming out to have spiritually related gifts( something here we refer to as a "calling" by the Ancestors/ Guides)and a lot more open-mindedness by ordinary folks who(in the past) would have dismissed things such as Tarot, Astrology and Mediumship etc. As "The Devil's work" ☝🏿

Also with this( as would be with Neptune) are scam artists and con men. I find it interesting that charismatic Nigerian television "healer" TB Joshua ,passed on when Netpune was in Pisces.

So called "Prophet" Bushiri fled this country and went back to his own country (Malawi) to evade investigation by the local police for alleged fraud.😶

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posted December 21, 2024 01:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, that reminds me of the hawk tuah girl. Some sort of crypto scam.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/hawk-tuah-coin-lawsuit-crypto-b26 68157.html

http://www.famousbirthdays.com/people/hailey-welch.html

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posted December 21, 2024 01:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Belage:
That sounds very astrologically plausible and makes a lot of sense.


Thank you.

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posted December 21, 2024 01:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PlutoWasHere:
Civil War would be extreme, but violence and civil unrest seem more and more plausible. I’ve been thinking about what I see in the charts of Vance and Musk. And honestly, a scenario where Trump is sidelined because of his health isn’t “out there”. He’s 78 and is going to be the oldest president of the U.S. ever. And that’s when things could get very unhinged. But even if Musk just keeps growing his influence, people will get restless because he’s unelected.

We’ve had different kinds of political violence for years.

This one guy was just charged with terrorism, but nothing was done about the “your body, my choice” boys and men. The guy who started it, was arrested after he maced a woman who rang his doorbell.

Speaking of which: Gisele Pelicot. Her husband was drugging her, and I’ll let anyone google the rest. That’s Neptune, too, right there. Or Pluto.

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posted December 21, 2024 05:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoWasHere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by teasel:
We’ve had different kinds of political violence for years.

This one guy was just charged with terrorism, but nothing was done about the “your body, my choice” boys and men. The guy who started it, was arrested after he maced a woman who rang his doorbell.

Speaking of which: Gisele Pelicot. Her husband was drugging her, and I’ll let anyone google the rest. That’s Neptune, too, right there. Or Pluto.


I’m surprised they hit him with a terrorism charge. Especially when there have been several attacks aimed at women where the murderers also engaged in incel misogynistic propaganda but were still not treated as terrorism. It seems they are more worried about “class violence” than “gender violence”. That is very much like Pluto in Aquarius.

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posted December 22, 2024 05:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Preppyarcher7989Wiff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PlutoWasHere:
Civil War would be extreme, but violence and civil unrest seem more and more plausible. I’ve been thinking about what I see in the charts of Vance and Musk. And honestly, a scenario where Trump is sidelined because of his health isn’t “out there”. He’s 78 and is going to be the oldest president of the U.S. ever. And that’s when things could get very unhinged. But even if Musk just keeps growing his influence, people will get restless because he’s unelected.

Late reply here.

Yup, sounds more likely. Likely that there will likely be more political violence rather than some kind of full on Civil War.

Saturn and Neptune, both hitting Aries, and conjuncting, make me a little nervous, to be quite honest!

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posted December 22, 2024 10:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for frida     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Government collapsed in France, then in Germany, Trudeau is being called to resign... Asad fled Syria. There will be a shift soon in the US with Trump and his team. And there's more going on in other smaller countries.

We are going through a lot.

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posted December 23, 2024 06:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoWasHere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by frida:
Government collapsed in France, then in Germany, Trudeau is being called to resign... Asad fled Syria. There will be a shift soon in the US with Trump and his team. And there's more going on in other smaller countries.

We are going through a lot.


Even though European countries are having issues, I don’t think it even comes close to the current energy in the U.S. Trump has been very rude towards several countries, with Panama and Greenland being new low points. I suspect a reaction from NATO. The current Secretary General has transit Pluto square his natal Scorpio Mars. Transit Mars will retrograde into emotionally reactive Cancer around 7 January 2025. If Trump uses this to quit NATO, as he has hinted before, and he immediately starts diplomacy with Putin, you know this has been a set up from the start.

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posted December 23, 2024 01:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for frida     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PlutoWasHere:
Even though European countries are having issues, I don’t think it even comes close to the current energy in the U.S. Trump has been very rude towards several countries, with Panama and Greenland being new low points. I suspect a reaction from NATO. The current Secretary General has transit Pluto square his natal Scorpio Mars. Transit Mars will retrograde into emotionally reactive Cancer around 7 January 2025. If Trump uses this to quit NATO, as he has hinted before, and he immediately starts diplomacy with Putin, you know this has been a set up from the start.

Somebody here also brought up that both Trump and Vance have Asc at 27-29 Leo, meaning they will be going through Uranus square Asc whole next year.

I have to choose to believe in people as a whole otherwise I’ll fall into despair… I live in a big US city and I’m heartbroken, constantly, looking at illness, filth and Teslas all together on the streets. And many people just brush it off, saying oh you should just ignore the homeless. How in the world can you ignore people suffering because of the system that is obviously not working. And what, chase the money, be overworked, isolated in a bubble, behind a gate, like a robot? A lot of people are still cut off from reality. This is not normal how we live. I am afraid it will take something drastic for things to change.

Europe will go through a lot too. They have big problems and in addition whatever happens in the US will affect them as well.

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posted December 23, 2024 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Librapurr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PlutoWasHere:
Even though European countries are having issues, I don’t think it even comes close to the current energy in the U.S. Trump has been very rude towards several countries, with Panama and Greenland being new low points. I suspect a reaction from NATO. The current Secretary General has transit Pluto square his natal Scorpio Mars. Transit Mars will retrograde into emotionally reactive Cancer around 7 January 2025. If Trump uses this to quit NATO, as he has hinted before, and he immediately starts diplomacy with Putin, you know this has been a set up from the start.

That was the point of Trump’s campaign to stop helping the other countries and start to build economy of his country. NATO needs US.
He got elected because Americans tired from the political and social values what don’t manifest in the real life. And that’s why he would be giving a pass for a while to go against the typical and expectations.

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posted December 24, 2024 02:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoWasHere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Librapurr:
That was the point of Trump’s campaign to stop helping the other countries and start to build economy of his country. NATO needs US.
He got elected because Americans tired from the political and social values what don’t manifest in the real life. And that’s why he would be giving a pass for a while to go against the typical and expectations.

I can understand how Americans are tired with the status quo. There’s enormous inequality and the justice system favors those that are in power. But you have to ask yourself if Trump is really going to change the system he benefits from so much?

Look at his picks for cabinet. So many billionaires and millionaires. To me it looks like he is trying to get as much as possible out of the system for himself. And is looking out for “number 1” what’s going to make the U.S. a great place to live? A lot of European countries that have incorporated “socialist” policies into their government are considered the best countries to live in. Right now, the U.S. is heading in the direction of Russia, which is not communist but an oligarchy, and not such a great place to live in if for the average person.

Only time will tell, but I don’t think that having a corrupt billionaire ruling class running the country is going to bring the changes you are looking for. But it will bring systemic inequalities and corruption to the surface. If anything, Pluto in Aquarius will confront us with the ugly truth.

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posted December 24, 2024 03:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoWasHere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by frida:
Somebody here also brought up that both Trump and Vance have Asc at 27-29 Leo, meaning they will be going through Uranus square Asc whole next year.

I have to choose to believe in people as a whole otherwise I’ll fall into despair… I live in a big US city and I’m heartbroken, constantly, looking at illness, filth and Teslas all together on the streets. And many people just brush it off, saying oh you should just ignore the homeless. How in the world can you ignore people suffering because of the system that is obviously not working. And what, chase the money, be overworked, isolated in a bubble, behind a gate, like a robot? A lot of people are still cut off from reality. This is not normal how we live. I am afraid it will take something drastic for things to change.

Europe will go through a lot too. They have big problems and in addition whatever happens in the US will affect them as well.


The planetary transits will impact all countries. The switch from Pluto in Capricorn to Aquarius is going to bring a change in energy. Systemic inequalities in society will become very visible. In a lot of European countries we have an aging population, a housing crisis and a general lack of trust in government. People are on edge. But it’s also an opportunity to address issues that need to be changed. I work for the government and I see a shift in focus from rules and regulations (Capricorn) to people and their experiences (Aquarius). Change will be difficult if you resist it, but it brings opportunities if you embrace it.

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posted December 24, 2024 09:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was born on the 29th degree. And this past week there was something that happened to illustrate this "waiting game" I spoke of.

We only found out last week (20th)that our account at home was blocked by the municipality from loading electricity as we allegedly owed monies.

The issue is still pending investigation bit the trick was that once the electricity runs out, we can be in the dark until the issue is resolved(whenever that is)

We however decided not to wait for the municipality to sort the issue and wanted to attend to it immediately.

The unfortunate thing was that we couldn't do it on the 20th(28 Degrees Sag) because the offices were closed by the time we got the notice.

So we had to wait for the Monday this week (Cap 1Deg) before anything could be solved.🤷🏿‍♂️

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posted December 24, 2024 04:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Librapurr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PlutoWasHere:
I can understand how Americans are tired with the status quo. There’s enormous inequality and the justice system favors those that are in power. But you have to ask yourself if Trump is really going to change the system he benefits from so much?

Look at his picks for cabinet. So many billionaires and millionaires. To me it looks like he is trying to get as much as possible out of the system for himself. And is looking out for “number 1” what’s going to make the U.S. a great place to live? A lot of European countries that have incorporated “socialist” policies into their government are considered the best countries to live in. Right now, the U.S. is heading in the direction of Russia, which is not communist but an oligarchy, and not such a great place to live in if for the average person.

Only time will tell, but I don’t think that having a corrupt billionaire ruling class running the country is going to bring the changes you are looking for. But it will bring systemic inequalities and corruption to the surface. If anything, Pluto in Aquarius will confront us with the ugly truth.


Despite majorly voted for him, I don’t think many are believing he will be the change to the world, but maybe a solution for these times. I think It’s more like let’s put a businessman instead of your typical politician.
Except of a small amount of his big fans who idolize him. I think many of his level-headed voters have pretty down to the earth perception of him. He is out of touch millionaire motivated by greed and success than typical political American great values promises. But ironically he came across more relatable for many and as a symbol dissatisfaction and anger of many Americans with the current system.
Many weren’t excited about this election. I often heard people went with their preferred party or like that they both are suck and whatever, but.. I mean filling up government with a bunch of billionaires wouldn’t create unrest and outrage yet, at least at the beginning. It’s not like somebody expected him to appoint scientists or blue-color workers…
I think at least a half of those people will be gone eventually as he is notorious for changing his surrounding. Some won’t be able to go through as it happens with Gaetz. Could billionaires have good intentions since they already got all the money in the world?… We can only hope at this point.

I personally don’t have optimistic view of this world for a long time. It went to a more dark and scary direction a while ago. The Divide and conquer covered up by bunch of high values BS.
The system inequality and corruption has been everywhere always. It’s only getting served under the different sauce in the Europe, the US, Russia and Asia.

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