posted October 15, 2024 07:57 AM            

With the outer planet transits being at the tail end of the sign, there seems to be an air of restlessness /uncertainty that I am picking up on with clients and people I interact with online.

Understandably,the sign change of a planet( an outer planet especially)is often a shift of focus/perspective from one area of life to another. So the energy of restlessness does make sense.

When that planet is on the 29th degree or circling (retrograde motion) around it, it will often have a Uranus feel to it (in my experience). And this can trigger feelings of restlessness. Like one can sense change coming and in an effort to align with that change, they initiate it.

Many times however, I have found that the change initiated (in the particular case of when the planet has still not permanently crossed over to the next sign) is rarely satisfying OR is premature.

The reason being that until the energy shift takes place (permanently), there is often regression (retrograde motion) that happens. And this can undermine the initiatives taken in the first place.

For instance, an individual may decide to change residences (like we did) when Pluto is still in the 29th degree of Sag in house 4.

What can happen here is that the native may move into this residence, and find that (with the retro motion of Plu in Sag 29) there are issues with the home that were unforeseen prior to the move.

Maybe there is a delay in terms of the "transfer of deeds" (which means that they are not the owner of the house yet)? Some problems with the electrical wiring/ plumbing? Or related legal issues that have yet to be formalized? Etc.

So the retrograde will negate initiatives taken for the move(expenses incurred) and necessitate either aanother move elsewhere (whilst the issues are being fixed )OR in the case of the integrity of the house itself, make the current dwelling unsettled (whilst repairs are done with them being there).

I often advise clients( as someone who has planets right on the edge of a sign) that when this 29th degree restlessness is felt, that they make incremental changes in terms of where they ARE OR solidify plans of where they would like to be. But avoid making permanent shifts whilst a planet hasn't crossed over permanently.

Our own example at home was when Plu was in the 29th degree Sag, Mom moved for job purposes. She struggled to find a place to stay as all the banks she approached simply refused to grant her a home loan(this despite having good credit). This happened when Plu was in retrograde motion at 29 Sag.

The issue of my Dad's credit got in the way (since they are married in "Community of Property "). And for months she spent money moving the family around ,changing my Sister's school, paying rent and helping Dad with expenses at the original house(miles away).

Unfortunately,she didn't foresee any of these issues until she moved homes. And that is the effect of the Plu 29th degree. The unexpected can happen in a very short period of time because of its Uranian type energy.

When Plu entered Cap permanently, the heavens opened (as she likes to put it😂 ). A loan manager approved her application 'out of the blue' . And she was finally able to get a home. This despite my Dad's financial woes affecting her indirectly through marriage.

So right now,I feel like something similar is happening with the planets being where they are. I know a friend who has moved homes during the Plu 29 retro period.

He had to endure a lot of unforeseen expenses due to delays and challenges related to building his dream home.

After it was all done, he said to me "remind me never again to move". But I couldn't say anything because at the time when all this was happening, Plu was still in retro motion in Cap and separating from his whole sign 1st house Aqua.

Plu has stationed at 29Cap on the 11th of October and will go into Aqua on the 19th of November 2024. Then reach its initial shadow retrograde place on January 20 2025.

This period is very crucial because it could undo months of the work invested in his home. My hope is that the issues (if any) that may come up with the home,are minimal.

Waiting or subduing the inner restlessness during this "waiting game",is not much fun. I know. But I feel it is necessary in avoiding the possibility of doing the same thing twice.

I started varsity (2003) when Uranus first ingressed to Pis. I should have taken a gap year to figure myself out because I couldn't figure out what to study when I got there.

Uranus went retrograde into Aqua. And already I felt like I was doing the wrong degree. But couldn't tell my parents.

posted October 15, 2024 08:47 AM            

When we act prematurely. We may have to repeat what was done I.e. put the undercooked meat back in the stove, replug the charger to the phone etc.

This repeated action will delay our results i.e. meal time or access to phone. So we must be careful & distract our restlessness as not to interfere with this final process of gestation.

Plu has done its dip into Aqua. So the wait may be officially over after Jan 20 2025. This when Aqua passes its retrograde shadow and is permanently in Aqua.

So wherever we have Aqua in the chart, is where initiatives can begin to transform/ redress that area of life.

If in 1st, the moves to transform our image/body permanently can be implemented. You can officially get yourself a new wardrobe and change your style. Or throw yourself into a diet plan that will see you lose copious amounts of weight.

If in 6th, it may open with a dramatic diagnosis that redresses how you approach issues of health.For the next 20 years or so, you have an opportunity to adress ailments and related enmity issues that undermine your health, with a profound level of insight and stamina.

For those with Aqua in 10th,a loss of job, a standoff with a senior personnel or an exciting career start await you that will change you as a person from a fundamental level.

Neptune hasn't dipped into Aries and Uranus not in Gemini. So for us right now, its a matter of making incremental changes in terms of where both planets are. Rather than leaping into anything permanent or difficult to reverse.

In the case of Neptune, wherever Pisces is at, is where we need to be patient and "curb our enthusiasm" to initiate something new and permanent.

Pisces in 12th (like me)? Pay more attention to what your subconscious triggers are telling you. Notice patterns, pay attention to dreams and clarity of intuition. Avoid opening a spiritual/retreat centre for now /focusing on healing others. First strengthen your own centre. Heal yourself.

Pisces 7th? Is your partner/lover/business associate etc. Hiding things from you OR you them?In what way are you disallowing them to be themselves to you openly?Are they(on the other hand)allowing you to be u?Could there be unspoken/projected expectations you have of them?OR them of u?Postpone that marriage plan and just enjoy being in a relationship with each other for now.

Pisces 3rd? Where are you at with your siblings/Neighbours/cousins? Are you avoiding dodgy routes on your way to places or tempting fate?When last was your car sent for a service?Don't buy a new car yet.See if you can repair the current one or salvage that relationship with an estranged sibling before dissolving it completely.

With Uranus, we are still dealing with late Tau. So wherever we have Tau is perhaps where we may face unexpected upheavals and changes. But let's not get too frustrated with these and decide to "sell". They could just be temporary.

Tau 4th house- Neighbourhood where you are at proving unreliable? Country you are residing in is simply frustrating? Jumping to selling your home or moving out of the country, may seem like a great idea. But you may find that the permanent changes you are initiating, are too extreme for the temporary challenges experienced.

Tau 8th house- Dealing with banks has become a nightmare? Unforeseen expenses incurred by the spouse comprising joint estate? It may seem like keeping money in a safe(in the first case) OR divorce may be in order(in the 2nd case )

But perhaps a change in the type of Bank or type of account used, is whats needed? Or an agreement to separate the joint estate with the spouse? Instead of the extreme nature of divorce, will do.

My point here is that the above two planets are at a crucial point where the initiative taken towards "newness" , may mean that that "newness" will have to be reviewed later for unforeseen/unexpected defects. Be careful and mindful of that🙏🏿.

posted October 15, 2024 02:11 PM            

Then in 2025, Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune, will all finally change signs!

2025 just spells 'new beginnings,' for me! The last time all the outer planets (and maybe Saturn) changed signs, mostly at once, was 2011/2012!

posted October 16, 2024 12:25 AM            

For months, I had issues with employment and getting an offer letter. At this rate, I cannot survive long till 2025. Like my money will practically all be done.

Come to find, you missed it, 6th house does deal with employment and not just health. I realized how it would be foolish to accept any offer right but the delay in an actual offer is killing me. It is that uncertainty I am living with. All of today, I have barely had any communications with companies despite me reaching out.

It is getting so irritating to deal with the fact that I am facing a potential for homelessness in the future if I do not get another job. The gigs are barely paying the rent but I have to scrap by when getting groceries. This is such a crappy situation to be in and that uncertainty is killing me on the inside. I am losing sleep.

posted October 16, 2024 05:12 AM            

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Originally posted by Preppyarcher7989Wiff:
Absolutely! Pluto is about to be superglued to Aquarius by November 19!

Then in 2025, Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune, will all finally change signs!

2025 just spells 'new beginnings,' for me! The last time all the outer planets (and maybe Saturn) changed signs, mostly at once, was 2011/2012!

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Oh yes. It's November 19th and not 30th. I rectified that. 🙌🏿

posted October 16, 2024 06:53 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Oh yes. It's November 19th and not 30th. I rectified that. 🙌🏿

I am curious as to how Uranus will affect you🤔. Coz I think your Ura will transit whole sign 4th house? So that's a change in terms of residence/family structure/home.

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Yes! I am a Pisces rising! Uranus will still be in my 3rd house even in 2025/2026 let's just say that!

posted October 16, 2024 06:26 PM            

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Originally posted by plutonianmenace:
Thread hit way too close to home for me. I got a verbal offer on Monday morning for a company that I was trying to get a job at but then after digging in more, realized it needs to actually be vetted more by HR before it can turn into an actual offer letter. Then the HR Leader hates that I had a short sting at my last job. Mind you, I am a Leo Rising and in Placidus, Pluto in Aqua goes into my 6th for some reason rather than my 7th.

For months, I had issues with employment and getting an offer letter. At this rate, I cannot survive long till 2025. Like my money will practically all be done.

Come to find, you missed it, 6th house does deal with employment and not just health. I realized how it would be foolish to accept any offer right but the delay in an actual offer is killing me. It is that uncertainty I am living with. All of today, I have barely had any communications with companies despite me reaching out.

It is getting so irritating to deal with the fact that I am facing a potential for homelessness in the future if I do not get another job. The gigs are barely paying the rent but I have to scrap by when getting groceries. This is such a crappy situation to be in and that uncertainty is killing me on the inside. I am losing sleep.

My head feels like it is about to burst.

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I won't baby you but here's a light, bro-hug, online.

(((((Pluto)))))

posted October 17, 2024 03:49 AM            

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Originally posted by plutonianmenace:
Thread hit way too close to home for me. I got a verbal offer on Monday morning for a company that I was trying to get a job at but then after digging in more, realized it needs to actually be vetted more by HR before it can turn into an actual offer letter. Then the HR Leader hates that I had a short sting at my last job. Mind you, I am a Leo Rising and in Placidus, Pluto in Aqua goes into my 6th for some reason rather than my 7th.

For months, I had issues with employment and getting an offer letter. At this rate, I cannot survive long till 2025. Like my money will practically all be done.

Come to find, you missed it, 6th house does deal with employment and not just health. I realized how it would be foolish to accept any offer right but the delay in an actual offer is killing me. It is that uncertainty I am living with. All of today, I have barely had any communications with companies despite me reaching out.

It is getting so irritating to deal with the fact that I am facing a potential for homelessness in the future if I do not get another job. The gigs are barely paying the rent but I have to scrap by when getting groceries. This is such a crappy situation to be in and that uncertainty is killing me on the inside. I am losing sleep.

My head feels like it is about to burst.

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posted October 17, 2024 03:53 AM            

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Originally posted by PlutoWasHere:
Uranus transit my 8th house and Jupiter transit my 7th house match with my divorce timing. It has been a blessing though. So much more peace. And my ex actually stepped up as a parent with 50/50 custody. I also have enough savings and job security to not worry about money right now. It has been the right combination of skills and luck. Maybe my natal Jupiter and Venus conjunction in the 8th shows that this is not where I struggle.

My only real concern at the moment is my mental health. In true Taurus fashion, I tend to go on and on until I hit rock bottom. I struggle with boundaries and will deplete myself for other people. The Neptune and Saturn transit through my 6th house is the one to watch out for. I’ve been thinking about my mother a lot. She was very bad at taking care of herself, everyone else came before her. It ended badly with depression and alcoholism. October 28th will be the 2nd anniversary of her passing.😢

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They’re going to go through my 6th house, too, and my mum was the same way - except for when we didn’t want to move, and she moved us anyway. She was more motivated, and consistently doing her thing, until she lost her business in 2007/2008. She slipped into alcoholism, and was depressed.

posted October 17, 2024 04:00 AM            

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Originally posted by plutonianmenace:
Thread hit way too close to home for me. I got a verbal offer on Monday morning for a company that I was trying to get a job at but then after digging in more, realized it needs to actually be vetted more by HR before it can turn into an actual offer letter. Then the HR Leader hates that I had a short sting at my last job. Mind you, I am a Leo Rising and in Placidus, Pluto in Aqua goes into my 6th for some reason rather than my 7th.

For months, I had issues with employment and getting an offer letter. At this rate, I cannot survive long till 2025. Like my money will practically all be done.

Come to find, you missed it, 6th house does deal with employment and not just health. I realized how it would be foolish to accept any offer right but the delay in an actual offer is killing me. It is that uncertainty I am living with. All of today, I have barely had any communications with companies despite me reaching out.

It is getting so irritating to deal with the fact that I am facing a potential for homelessness in the future if I do not get another job. The gigs are barely paying the rent but I have to scrap by when getting groceries. This is such a crappy situation to be in and that uncertainty is killing me on the inside. I am losing sleep.

My head feels like it is about to burst.

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🙆🏿‍♂️Damne! As corny as this sounds, all I can say is hang in there. 🙏🏿. This downward curve will not last forever❤❤❤. It really won't.

Pluto is an intense energy that tends to surface deep feeling reactions from others and ourselves.It tends to make the native very polarizing or has the native see others in extreme ways.

When in 6th house( where imo it was in retrograde motion for Leo Asc in terms of whole house system),the Leo Asc will have strong feelings FOR or AGAINST something that is 6th house related.

They may meet people who are either FOR or AGAINST something that is 6th house related. Or else THEY may be the one who surfaces strong feelings in others in terms of 6th house related themes.

Because 6th house Cap and 7th house Aqua are both ruled by Saturn, the thread of extreme emotions in terms of the former or the latter continues from one house to the next. Although the latter house will amplify things-due to its angular nature.

6th house is however a house of enmity. So Saturn, Mars and Plu tend to perform well here. As the desire to transform one's surroundings is strong.

However, as these Plu in 6th house people discover (whether by natal or transit) the resistance met , is just as strong as their convictions.

So in this house the native can be an agent of change by challenging the existing order/ authority by critiquing it openly. Or else be in vehement support of those who do.

On the other end, they can be the ones who openly defend its existence. Or else be aligned to those who do.

Trump had Plu trans his 6th when he ran for President and won. And those who supported him were often termed "extreme" in their alliance.

As Plu moves to the 7th (a zenith point because of its angular nature) for Leo Asc folks. It is like the essence of culmination as a result of their 6th house doings. It is the turning point for change or regression.

I often advise those who have Plu prog to natal 7th, transit 7th or natal 7th to note that being "all or nothing" about things will cause alienation in existing relationships or future ones. Sometimes enhancing or limiting future goals (depending on context).

So relationships, alliances or interactions with others when Plu is in 7th(in aspect to Venus or ruler of 7th) can transform the natives life or limit it.

The Uranus in 10th house Tau would also make the clarity of long term direction difficult to see.

Uranus in 10th(in the case of employment) has a characteristic of bringing rapid changes and upheavals into the work environment/career.

It can be extremely problematic in terms of stabilizing one's income and subsequent life.This because earnings are subject to flux and change (due to changes of employment) OR else (if staying in one company) the stress and nervous tension causes illness and destabilizes one's health.

It will likely remain this way- this even as Plu transits the whole sign 7th. So one may have to actively avoid signing long term agreements that require stability in income.

Taking on necessary but unwanted adhoc jobs(admittedly) to manage the slumps , may be one way to manage this period. Uranus is not comfortable energy and when opp the Ic(especially) it does affect one's domestic stability.

Neptune is still in 8th for Leo Asc (whole sign).So one may be a recipient of something (money, inheritance, legacy) that comes from others.Or else the Leo Asc may be in a position of handling other people's money.

Since Neptune is involved.And Neptune is known to be shifty and unclear, the Leo Asc must be careful (in the case of being the recipient/benefactor) that what they are receiving is legit, without ulterior motives and doesn't have concealed conditions attached.

If the Leo Asc finds themselves handling other people's money,then they should ensure that they act in a clear and above board way when doing so.

Also possible with Nep in 8th, is for Leo Asc folks to try and evade tax or related things.This is not a good idea.Keep abreast of things you owe the government and related
Institutions. Document everything- As Nep makes it hard to prove your innocence should allegations start surfacing.

posted October 20, 2024 06:02 AM            

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Originally posted by Stawr:
I’m so over the workaholic energy of Pluto in Capricorn.

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posted October 21, 2024 08:31 AM            

By the time Pluto leaves Aquarius in 20 years or so, I'm afraid technology may become so limited due to the amount of destruction already ensued.

posted October 23, 2024 03:10 AM            

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Originally posted by frida:
Are you saying that we will work less with Pluto in Aquarius? 😃 Oh that would make me so happy.

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Not exactly. The gist of it is that one must avoid starting long term projects when the outer planets are at 29Deg and are about to cross-over. That degree is the degree of restlessness and is (ironically enough) where one must be restrained and practice the waiting game.

If not and they attach themselves to projects around that degree, they'll find that they'll have to redo the said project after the crossover (because of issues). Or that they lack the necessary enthusiasm to follow through once the planet has started ingressing in another sign (and by extension house).

The 29th degree is a tricky energy of change and can make us restless . The restlessness we feel could result In us acting prematurely because of this energy. Transits Ura, Nep, Plu are currently right there circling that end part of their respective signs.

posted October 23, 2024 07:23 AM            

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Originally posted by Stawr:
I’m so over the workaholic energy of Pluto in Capricorn.

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Same here... Ever since the transit has started my life's been a constant uphill battle. Work hard for this, work hard for that... It worked as I finally have a workplace where I'm paid and treated how I deserve to be paid and treated. But gosh, it's been a really long way leading up to this moment...

posted October 23, 2024 04:35 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Not exactly. The gist of it is that one must avoid starting long term projects when the outer planets are at 29Deg and are about to cross-over. That degree is the degree of restlessness and is (ironically enough) where one must be restrained and practice the waiting game.

If not and they attach themselves to projects around that degree, they'll find that they'll have to redo the said project after the crossover (because of issues). Or that they lack the necessary enthusiasm to follow through once the planet has started ingressing in another sign (and by extension house).

The 29th degree is a tricky energy of change and can make us restless . The restlessness we feel could result In us acting prematurely because of this energy. Transits Ura, Nep, Plu are currently right there circling that end part of their respective signs.

The period between now and the 19th of November(before the Pluto sign shifts to Aqu) is the tipping point. The desire to change stuff right now may be great. But I would not encourage it. I would implore one to wait. Wait it out.

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posted October 26, 2024 05:11 PM            

Transits manifests in different ways. He's better now, and was lucky Pluto didn't serve him a bigger Plutonian metaphorical slap.

posted October 29, 2024 11:26 AM            

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Originally posted by Preppyarcher7989Wiff:
One Youtuber/Streamer has a Sun in 29 degrees, Capricorn. He was in trouble with the law. Pluto is at 29 degrees, Capricorn.

Transits manifests in different ways. He's better now, and was lucky Pluto didn't serve him a bigger Plutonian metaphorical slap.

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Who is this YouTuber? When I had transit Plu on natal Sun in Sag 29, it was a point where I had an identity reform.

Since Sag deals with religion and things connected to morality, beliefs and God etc.Transits to my Sun in Sag typically have to touch those issues. Which Plu did.

It actually started years prior when Plu transitted Jupiter Sag (ruler of Sun). And that transit was more intense than when Pluto hit Sun.

With the latter,it seemed to simply mean that the new persona(Sun) has to show itself up.

Pluto in Cap would surface issues related to boundaries, authorities,law and order,rules and regulations,reputation etc.

So Plu transiting Natal Sun in Cap people, would either have them come into contact with these issues mentioned above OR be the implementor of them.

What would be of value is to look at what sign Saturn(ruler of Sun) is in? Because this will show their attitude towards boundaries, keeping the rules and doing things that are socially acceptable etc.

Sometimes Capricorn natives can be arrogant ( yes,I said it) in terms of how they view themsleves relative to others.There could be a superiority complex or thinking that one can test boundaries and break the law because they are part of the authority that makes the law. And are thus part of the elite and "above" it.

Pluto will address this sense of separatism and elitism that Cap can develop. If it doesn't do it when hitting the Sun, it will do it when it hits the ruler of the Sun (Saturn).

Sometimes it's not Plu that does it. But another slow moving transit like Ura/Nep on natal Saturn.

If unethical and breaking the rules, the chickens will come to roost.