posted February 20, 2025 03:09 PM            

NEPTUNE IN ARIES

"What we see and what we touch is made of Dreams and Mirages." ~Tao Te Ching

I want to start off with where we have come since 2011 with Neptune in the sign of Pisces. We have all had an opportunity to change to learn to let go, to learn humbleness, to learn about our spiritual nature, and our self-undoing in this water sign To bring some consciousness into our everyday lives.

Now that Neptune is at the bridge between the old of Pisces, and the new of Aries, we turn the coin over to the other side. In pisces, neptune effected our female side, our moon side, our water signs. Now, Neptune will effect our male sides, our male issues, and the fire signs which is.... our Fire and our Instinct.

Dream Landscape
Neptunian dream landscape of fluid, ambiguous forms, is an energy and space to survive a succession of trials, karma and self mastery. It has produced a world literature of miraculous tests. She he or they discovers benign power everywhere supporting one in super-human passages, keeping safe. It is here, the principal roles are reversed: instead of accepting a demoted position, one becomes who one wishes to be.

After one has wandered through dark forests and over mountains, where we occasionally comes across the bones of a shaman and their animal mounts who have died along the way, she reaches in an opening in the ground. When the depths of the underworld whose guardian gates are Pluto, with their remarkable manifestations she enter's the night realms of the dead of Neptune, the underworld, in which she has her trials.

To undertake Neptune intiations, be it in the coming Aries, or the finishing of its journey in Pisces, we enter currently the spaces inbetween incarnation and enternal neptune, not an easy place to stand in this world with the past and past lives haunting our vey personal nature in Aries Mars.

MARS ARIES is ruled by the FIRE ELEMENT

Ancient Fire
Creation and Light; and
Destruction and Purification

Metaphysics Fire
Metaphysical meaning of Fire symbolizes cleansing and purification, but it is more than a symbol. Material fire is the symbol, and the fire of the creative nature element of Spirit or spiritual energy.

Alchemy Fire
The fire element represents the principle of Energy that Transforms, often associated with the upward pointing triangle of moving outwards, rather than receptive or inwards.

Philosophical Fire
Fire is often seen as the force that drives change and evolution in the alchemical process.

Fire Astrological
Basic fire element is associated with astrology signs of Aries, Leo, and Sagittarius. People with fire signs are said to be action oriented, passionate, enthusiastic, courage, and a zest for life and control. When that control is lost they can be abusive and let their emotions catch things on fire and burn them or burn bridges.

Mars Aries
Keywords

Action
Instincts
Competitive
Dynamic
Energy
Force
Heat
Impulsive
Life force
Control
Machismo
Male Archetype
Masculinity
Passion
Physical energy
Self-preservation
Vigorous and Virility
Willpower

Neptune Pisces Keywords
Addiction
Compassion
Confusion
Deception
Diffuse
Disillusionment
Disintegration
Dissolution
Dreaming
Ecstatic
Elusive
Enlightenment
Escapism
Fascination
Illusions
Imagination
Impressionable
Inspiration
Intangible
Madness
Martyrdom
Oneness
Psychic sensitivity
Sacrifice
Saviour complex
Self-sacrifice
Spiritual
Subtlety
Transcendence
Uncertainty
Unknown
Visionary
Lack of boundaries

COMBINATIONS OF THESE ENERGIES
Neptune Mars (or Pisces Aries)
Neptune was last in Libra from October 1942 and brought peace. That is not what Mars brings. The Mars-Neptune has to do with personal evolution and evolutionary (or karmic) lessons in the masculine ways of changes through destruction, violence and suffering.

The archetype of Neptune and Mars is a complex connection between opposing principles. Neptune represents the spiritual realm, while Mars represents personal drive.

Proteus is the prophetic sea divinity and the second-largest Moon of Neptune, and so it's named (as are all of Neptune's moons) for deities associated with the Sea. Proteus was not only prophetic but also a shapeshifter.

OVERVIEW OF NEPTUNE IN ARIES
FROM 1861-1875 (14 years)
Neptune went into Aries April 13, 1861, the day after the American Civil War began and it will move into Aries on March 30th, 2025, and will stay there until 2038 (13 years). The prominant things that happened last time was.

In 1860 Pluto and Uranus were in their First Decan so many discoveries were by Uranus in its 7 year journey in Gemini, just like it will be this time. And Pluto back then brought death and destruction because it was sittng at 8 Taurus.

As we know this time Neptune will be in Aries, while Aquarius is in Aquarius, and Taurus in Gemini. The Earth element will be missing from this senerio of the three outer planets and with that, maybe Neptune will have a great impact on the individual as its in Aries, rather than be pulled away from that by Pluto in taurus. The inventions with Uranus in Gemini were so great in the 1860s and d70s, and either there will be more of this, or the life cycles of 160 years since Neptune was in Aries last time, there might be an ending because of the lack of earth energy.

SATURN NEPTUNE CONJUNCTION AND DANCE TOWARD 0 ARIES 2025-2026
The Auspicious Neptune in Aries cycle coming, first will combine with Saturn to prepare us for Neptune's journey in Aries and what that means. Between August 2025 and February 2026, helps us to become conscious rather than prepared since the dominant energy here is Neptune and we have no control over it. Saturn allows us forsight to manage control a little bit where its needed in the next few years.

Saturn will be in Aries from 2025-2028 and there will be a conjunction with Neptune at 1 Aries as we then head towards Neptune at 0 Aries in February 26, 2026. Once the conjunction of Saturn Neptune at 0° Aries which occurs February 20, 2026. This gives us a lot of information about this Neptune in Aries, that unstructurable energy and Saturn giving us ideas where we need to structure where we can.

Neptune will be Aries from March 30, 2025 to October 22, 2025, and then again from January 26, 2026 until March 2039. We are going to do a Pisces and Aries dance of a balance between endings and new beginnings of our own life, and humanity. The self enters the collective power of Neptune's loss and making sacrifices.

The MYTH
In Greek mythology, the myth of Aries as the sacrifice is about a golden ram that saved Phrixus from being sacrificed by his stepmother, Ino. The story of Aries is about sacrifice, salvation, and the power of a mother's love. So we look to Ceres to see where she sits in this senerio.

1. 1860-61 The Pony Express mail delivery begings. Abraham becomes President and the Civil War begins. Five years later, slavery was abolished in 1865 with the 13th Amendment.

2. In 1860 census showed that 56% of women were in the labor force, including merchant, farms, and craft work and managing businesses. Susan B. Anthony, Elizabeth Stanton, and Lucy Stone asked friends to send petitions for women's suffrage and in 1865 and in 1868, the first federal legislation was proposing to give women the right to vote. The right to vote, Amendment 19 did not happen until 54 years later on June 4, 1919.

3. One of the weirdest things reported during the Civil War from 1861-1865 was the phenomenon of soldiers describing their wounds as "glowing in the dark", particularly after the Battle of Shiloh, where many soldiers reported seeing a luminescent glow emanating from their injuries; Scientists haven't explained this phenomenon that happened, but it remains a strange and documented occurrence from the conflict. It was widely reported in multiple accounts from both Union and Confederate soldiers who documented the phenomenon.

4. Alfred Nobel invented dynamite in 1867.
Albert Niemann isolated and purified cocaine from the coca leaf.

5. First underground railway in London opened in 1863
and the first submarine was launched in 1863.

6. The 1870s were marked by the rise of the German Empire following the Franco-Prussian War, significant industrial advancements across Europe.

posted February 20, 2025 03:38 PM            

ETA: I also think there might be new dance breakthroughs (Mars and Neptune together love to dance)

There will be also a strong possibility of cheating and deception. Mars and Neptune in hard aspect are traditionally marks of cheating in a chart.

There is the possibility that we will idealize war and fighting... Or that people will enter or start wars purely for unselfish reasons.

But as Saturn is slated to enter Aries also, this might put a lot of damper on the initial idealization of all things martial...

posted February 20, 2025 05:00 PM            

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Originally posted by Axekey Neyooxetusei:
Yes that is true at least in America when the civil war broke out the day after Neptune entered Aries and the Revolutionary war when Neptune when into Aries in 1775. This will be the third time of such energies and it may be more of a karmic debt scenario. I have been observing that karma is coming down hard on people who do things lately, that would be Pluto in Aquarius, since Aquarian energy or Uranus doesn't tolerate Saturnian repression or big corporate or war powers. So the combo of the Air and Fire with the 3 outer planets are going to bring very ungrounded and unstable ideology and fighting among men, it showed that the last two times. In the 1860s Taurus was also in Gemini, so the mind cult might not fare too well this time with Pluto in Aquarius.

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With the major outer planets (Pluto, Uranus, Neptune) in air and fire signs that are harmonious to each other, I think there is going to be expansion of ideas and maybe not as much clash as one would expect from fire since these energies are in complementary signs.

Censorship from the left or the right will not be tolerated, especially after Uranus enters Gemini. People will want freedom of expression and of speech, and they will get it, feelings be damned!

Uranus in Gemini also favors things like cryptos in commerce. Stock markets will be unpredictable...

posted February 21, 2025 09:15 PM            

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Originally posted by Belage2:
Why do you think that "Neptune is hell"?

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posted February 22, 2025 12:13 AM            

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Originally posted by Axekey Neyooxetusei:
Yes that is true at least in America when the civil war broke out the day after Neptune entered Aries and the Revolutionary war when Neptune when into Aries in 1775. This will be the third time of such energies and it may be more of a karmic debt scenario. I have been observing that karma is coming down hard on people who do things lately, that would be Pluto in Aquarius, since Aquarian energy or Uranus doesn't tolerate Saturnian repression or big corporate or war powers. So the combo of the Air and Fire with the 3 outer planets are going to bring very ungrounded and unstable ideology and fighting among men, it showed that the last two times. In the 1860s Taurus was also in Gemini, so the mind cult might not fare too well this time with Pluto in Aquarius.

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This is a bit of the discussion I was looking for. We are revisiting old wounds. Yes, karma could be about to play out if the oppressed raise against those whom wronged them in the prior timeline.

I agree Neptune can bring troubling energy. In tarot this is 7 of cups and a snake oil salesman or politician etc could promise complete lies. As well pisces (neptune ruler) is hanged man, (sacrifice). Hence Neptune could bring forth undoing. As well poseidon is the underworld god (neptune) - as a reader I've encountered this theme a lot and a public reader I went to has seen this in her personal paid readings all week. Devil with tower. We can not escape when the energy is here for an engagement that is pre scheduled via Divine (karma) payments.

posted March 30, 2025 04:51 PM            

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Originally posted by MoonMystic:

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This is a bit of the discussion I was looking for. We are revisiting old wounds. Yes, karma could be about to play out if the oppressed raise against those whom wronged them in the prior timeline.

I agree Neptune can bring troubling energy. In tarot this is 7 of cups and a snake oil salesman or politician etc could promise complete lies. As well pisces (neptune ruler) is hanged man, (sacrifice). Hence Neptune could bring forth undoing. As well poseidon is the underworld god (neptune) - as a reader I've encountered this theme a lot and a public reader I went to has seen this in her personal paid readings all week. Devil with tower. We can not escape when the energy is here for an engagement that is pre scheduled via Divine (karma) payments.

On the asteroids bbs I've been looking at this theme of Revolutionary w (or a civil w). I'm sensing the buildup now, it won't be small -
or clean.

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posted March 30, 2025 05:25 PM            

It rules all karma, and the soul's expressions of sickness, emotional illness, and horrible dread of loss in our lives that we have no control over. Consider ones self lucky if they don't have to pay that Neptune Karmic dept back this lifetime.

I have a rule:

posted April 11, 2025 09:10 AM            

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Originally posted by Axekey Neyooxetusei:

[B]Mars Aries
Keywords

Action
Instincts
Competitive
Dynamic
Energy
Force
Heat
Impulsive
Life force
Control
Machismo
Male Archetype
Masculinity
Passion
Physical energy
Self-preservation
Vigorous and Virility
Willpower

Neptune Pisces Keywords
Addiction
Compassion
Confusion
Deception
Diffuse
Disillusionment
Disintegration
Dissolution
Dreaming
Ecstatic
Elusive
Enlightenment
Escapism
Fascination
Illusions
Imagination
Impressionable
Inspiration
Intangible
Madness
Martyrdom
Oneness
Psychic sensitivity
Sacrifice
Saviour complex
Self-sacrifice
Spiritual
Subtlety
Transcendence
Uncertainty
Unknown
Visionary
Lack of boundaries
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This was awesome to read. I particularly love the keywords of each energy that you highlighted. Got me thinking of my own subjective experience with this transit🤔

posted April 11, 2025 11:51 AM            

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hanged man can be about perspectives, a pause, surrender... more than just sacrifice

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Sacrifice to me is the third or collective level, which perspectives, a pause, and surrender would fall under as the workings of it, or the everyday living of Sacrifice. Everyone's sacrifice is unique and different in life and looking hindsight on my last 68 years, we do go through ebb and flow of such varied living realities. This is why service and sacrifice, a good Neptune word goes together like the Bob Dylan song...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-CffhydlDo

posted April 11, 2025 12:09 PM            

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Originally posted by Belage2: "With the major outer planets (Pluto, Uranus, Neptune) in air and fire signs that are harmonious to each other, I think there is going to be expansion of ideas and maybe not as much clash.

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Yes not everyone gets the pleasure of the full impact in their life of the three outer planets, unfortunately I have and whoa the power here is very deadly when the impacts are pure and direct. In my path this lifetime (being ruled by the three outer planets myself (lumiaries), I have pluto, neptune and uranus in prime areas of my chart and two of them in a 5+node T Square. Squares are for a lifetime of growth that is less human and more soul intiations.

My Pluto is trine my NN Jupiter/Neptune conjunction in the 12H in Scorpio (which is was all about death and Pluto became my benefactor to stay alive). So yes, there are positives like that.

My Uranus is in a Thors Hammer with my Mars/Saturn square Moon/Black Moon Lilith and its brought chaos down from the upper section of the 9H near the midheaven into the lower part of my chart of my personal planets (Sun Venus Chiron). Chaos from Uranus can be workable as an Aquarian, but for a Taurus can be very upsetting etc. Uranus can be quite Idealistic until one is hit with its real lightning bolts (chaos).

Lastly my Neptune conjunt the old ruler Jupiter and its expansion, and NN is within 4 degrees of the 12H in Scorpio, also involved in my Fixed T Square, it showed me the collective levels of the dark of this earth (i am a shaman, exorcist and dream walker by profession because of that fated 12H NN).

Yes it maybe true that one doesn't have a complex set up with their 3 outer planets like I do, but that doesn't mean that these three planets are not death and rebirth. Its inner planets that give you those riches, or loves, or property, not the outer planets. Those of us who experience them first hand, never forget their highly dangerous and destructive natures.

Speaking about the wicked rivers like the Colorado, is not tempered by one who only may have experience a float trip on a docile and peaceful small river. That is the difference when I wrote or shared what I did, its full on experience to the death and eerie levels that survival at greater levels is needed. Most will only know that by a stock market that crashes and the depression afterwards, or the suffering of Poland's auchwitz that only the Germans knew how to diliver, and felt by everyone. These are outer planets.

Pluto is Harmony through Crisis, that in the "in death is peace" reality. So too with Neptune of the person lost in the desert and things there is an oasis of water in front of them, its a dillusion, the fated mirage.
Fixed energy, Uranus's sparkle, is when you struggle until you finally let go, its like that last breath you take when you sit at the bottom of the ocean. Nobody wants to let go, but Uranus is a master Heyoka in those matters.

Sometimes astrologers tend to treat outer planets, like inner planets and our personal ability to control inner planets. Not true with outer planets, they are cold, distant and outer realiteis, and consider all three outer planets tradformation and inner planets learnings. One set you control, and the other you do not.

If one has not been destroyed by such outer planet energy and then reborn, they one hasn't truely experienced its power and then wanting to say they substitute it with light. I just have to smile at that. The idealist (uranus) perspective, or a deep dark fascination (pluto) or addictions and unconsciousness of (neptune) are so powerful that once you experience the real aspects of them, you do not remain unconscious, nor idealistic or seek that rebirth.

posted April 25, 2025 11:55 AM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
Bump!

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