posted August 27, 2011 05:42 PM            

I have much experience in both celibacy and all the sexual ranges betwixt it and extreme sexuality as I mentioned in post here on page 1, and at Sweet Peas.
I do have a long reply I want to post.
I am hoping it will help, or at least illustrate why I think as I do and am not against celibacy, only that it is not for everyone and does not make one automatically more spiritually evolved,
nor is intense sexuality automatically a negative.

I am celibate but not anti-sexual and have been for some time.
That does not make me better or more advanced than when I am not celibate.

OK rant over, but really would like to see the thread remain open.

PS.
Oh yes, another thing,
and not only on that thread;
I have seen some folks go off in extreme support all kissy and hearts,
and others being perceived as insulting,
WITHOUT READING ENTIRE THREAD!
I ask that folks
PLEASE READ ALL
on any thread before posting your opinions!

posted August 27, 2011 08:07 PM            

My main point that I wanted to get across was that sexual practice or abstinence is not superior or inferior.

Lexx has also made this point (a lot clearer than I have).

There were a lot of references in the article posted about it being superior - I strongly object to that. I have no issues with celibacy or anything else but I do have major issues with claims that one way is a fast track to enlightenment.

posted August 28, 2011 01:35 AM            

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Originally posted by dysfunctionalmystic:
I think regardless of what you post; you're going to attract from both sides of the fence and to expect nothing but praise or support is a little naive. My response on that thread was unbelievably serious. It wasn't an attempt to upset, ridicule or anything else. I can get very passionate when I see certain types of behaviour being held in esteem over others.

My main point that I wanted to get across was that sexual practice or abstinence is not superior or inferior.

Lexx has also made this point (a lot clearer than I have).

There were a lot of references in the article posted about it being superior - I strongly object to that. I have no issues with celibacy or anything else but I do have major issues with claims that one way is a fast track to enlightenment.

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posted August 28, 2011 10:52 AM            

I believe in the treasure of generosity and delight in being magnamious.

posted August 28, 2011 11:20 AM            

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Originally posted by rajji:
Juni...Yes I agree..But its not about emotions or internal Struggle at all.
How would you like If I said I'd like to have an Orgasm in your thread or in front of you?
Or in front of GOD?....I believe I was talking about GOD in the whole thread.
I do think there are limits to anything.

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Whoa whoa whoa.

I posted in that thread when I saw this reaction. But I never read through either thread properly...

Firstly, I was not and never was making fun of you.
I was saying your way is your way and my way is my way. I don't think yours is superior, you don't think mine is superior..I was nothing but respectful. The entire thread is your opinion and your passion, and cool beans to you! I offered ( respectfully) that when you offer your way and then say "It's your choice" like you have the keys of spiritual solemnity in your hand, if I ignore it and go my way, clearly I am a fool. I stated, and still do, that I appreciate the views you have on the subject, I have alternative ones. That is the nature of these boards!

When I said the phrase "Ima be over here having an orgasm" I meant "Over here" like in my life, in my scope. It was a JOKE... not to make fun of YOU, but to make fun of ME.
I make silliness. That is what I do. Usually it makes smiles, not frowns.

I have no idea how that was offensive.
My orgasm offends you? So sorry. I just don't get it.

posted August 28, 2011 11:44 AM            

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Originally posted by rajji:
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Moonchild I dint look for any apologies from you or anybody. I dint expect that kind of answer from you inspite of my Heartfelt Wishes for you in your thread as a Newly Wedded Couple.

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I assume you mean me. MoonWitch.

I'm confused about what kind of answer your weren't expecting.

I don't give people apologies when they are looking for them. I give apologies when they are sincere. I honestly didn't intend in any way to ruffle your feathers.

The Internet is an imperfect form of communication. I feel bad if your are reading things into responses or posts in ways they truly weren't intended.

I didn't see anyone at all making fun of you, your lifestyle or your beliefs. I only saw people inputting their opinion about their own lives and experiences. I feel confused about why that offends you or why that confuses you... Or why if people try to genuinely communicate about to you about it or apologize for upsetting you about it - you want to ignore it or shut down.

I guess that is also your prerogative.

I'll leave this thread alone now. I just truly hope that you find the strength in your beliefs to be able to hear other people's beliefs without taking it as a personal affront.

I must go appreciate the gorgeous Southern California weather now!!

Mahalo!!!!!!

posted August 28, 2011 11:44 AM            

I'm going to put this here.
Treat it as an explanation.

A few months ago, I came back here, I hadn't been for a while, so I came back and noted the presence of 'trolling' behaviour'... people would randomly open up threads with silliness, and what I do when that happens, my self proclaimed role, is to be funny, but try to point out things while doing so. I am not mean or nasty, I'm like a satirist.

So I had been reading through the threads and responding here and there- just getting a feel for it.
Someone opened a thread inquiring about a name for a learning institution. It was all misspelled and in improper terms. It reeked to me of a joke. It was the essence of 'irony' so I responded to it, basically saying that. Well, I guess I offended you Rajji, because the next thing I know, there's a thread asking why people are allowed to make fun of others and blah blah blah. Clearly meaning ME. As far as I know, I had never previously interacted with you.
So- you misinterpreted my actions and called 'the principal'
The thread was gone in the glitch, so I can only reference it. You made a big stink, then let it go.
Now, the minute I say something, or we engage in a conversation that has difference of opinion, you call me out again, specifically my words, which you misinterpret and deem 'vile.

I guess I don't see the magnitude of my words and their offensiveness compared to your actions and responses to them.

posted September 04, 2011 04:23 PM            

from what i've read, i think that what is going on here is that rajji intended to open a thread for people who would understand his point of view and appreciate it, i guess expecting those who did not agree with it to just overlook it.

i don't think anyone is the bad guy here. it's simply technicalities of the site. maybe if the interface allowed for a brief introduction to the intent of the thread, or even if the writer/beginner of the thread wrote a brief intro to who they want or don't want involved, that would help.

it wouldn't help to moderate what people say to the point where everything that might come off as offensive to someone is deleted. from my opinion, (perhaps meaningless to you,but i'll say it anyway) i feel that open communication is so so important, especially in this age of mediocrity and even hypocrisy, and that the internet is such a great tool for this. think about it, you can actually say what you think and feel and there is no risk of anyone getting physically affected. so i guess what i am saying is that if i were a mod, deleting what someone wants to say would rarely happen. only if the writer was obviously not here on LL to seriously learn and help others learn.