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jwhop
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posted May 27, 2009 10:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
Do yourself a favor acoustic and don't dig your hole any deeper.

Remember the old adage acousitc.

"When you find yourself in a hole, guit digging".

You have the same "quaint" mindset as your Marxist icon O'Bomber who recently announced the US is broke. So, to fix that little problem, O'Bomber proposes to spend tillions of money we don't have to make us rich again. What a moroon.

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AcousticGod
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posted May 27, 2009 11:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
It's always remarkable how you can sit facing an argument you can't handle, and act as if you have the upper hand. You're something else. Let me know when you get back to trying to say something of substance.

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jwhop
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posted May 27, 2009 12:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
You have yet to make any coherent argument acoustic. Prattle isn't an argument. Whining isn't an argument. Denial isn't an argument.

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jwhop
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posted May 27, 2009 01:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=99301

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AcousticGod
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posted May 27, 2009 02:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
Anyone reading would have to come to an alternate conclusion. Posting pictures does not an argument make. You're 0 for 3 in this thread thus far.

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jwhop
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posted May 27, 2009 02:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
My, my acoustic, such arrogance to think you speak for everyone.

Btw, that picture was not posted as an argument. That picture was posted as a preview of things to come and those billboards are going to go up all across America...well, perhaps not in LeftistLand California

Speaking of LeftistLand California acoustic, how the farthermost western Soviet state working out for Californians?

Last I read, the proletariat are getting downright grumpy over the Marxist Socialist policies of the Soviet State legislature.

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AcousticGod
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posted May 27, 2009 02:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
Would you like to invite everyone to have a look? Last I knew, you tried to silence anyone sharing my opinion by claiming that they were propping me up. Of course that's not true. It's just your way of trying to keep yourself on equal footing with me. It's tough to do with people confirming that my arguments make more sense than yours.

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jwhop
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posted May 27, 2009 02:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
Well, it must be admitted you are the one who calls for reinforcements acoustic and attempt to get prople to commit to agreeing with you. I've told you how weak that is.

But don't you think it's dishonest to suggest everyone agrees with you...or sees things your way.

My goal acoustic, as I've told you before is to get people to talk, not shut them up. I learn the most interesting things about people's political views by encouraging them to speak up.

Take you for instance acoustic. The more you talk the more of your radical leftist leanings come gushing out.

Hahaha Keep myself on equal footing with you acoustic? You must be nuts; I would never aim that low.

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AcousticGod
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posted May 27, 2009 03:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
I've never asked people to commit anything to me here. I have called for people to come inspect our arguments in the past when you've stubbornly insisted that you're right despite being altogether wrong. That's not calling in reinforcements. That's calling in people to flex their common sense.

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But don't you think it's dishonest to suggest everyone agrees with you...or sees things your way.

Questions should end with a question mark.

I think that if people were interested in following this argument they'd find the more compelling points to be the ones I've made. You never did find where pedophilia has ever fallen under the umbrella of "sexual orientation." You never did establish the reason opposing the myriad of confirmations that Obama is American born. You never proved the Uighurs were actually associated with Al Qaeda. That's a fail, fail, fail. In the meantime, I've provided links to all kinds of information regarding these things. How do you suppose people would line up behind your unsupported positions?

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The more you talk the more of your radical leftist leanings come gushing out.

There has never been anything radical about what I've said. That's a straight up projection from the local radical.

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Keep myself on equal footing with you acoustic? You must be nuts; I would never aim that low.

So, you're saying that from now on you won't automatically jump on anyone stating their coincidental agreement with me? You won't try to shoo them away, or try to silence them from adding their voice? We'll see...

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jwhop
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posted May 27, 2009 04:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
No acoustic, you called on people to agree with you. It's pretty weak when you can't stand on your own two feet...and your own arguments.

Never tried to shoo anyone away. People are free to agree with your nonsense if they wish. But making disingenuous arguments will draw rebuttals as always.

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There has never been anything radical about what I've said...acoustic

Nothing radical about calling Bush a murderer acoustic?

Nothing radical about saying the American people repressed/oppressed the Iraqi people acoustic?

Nothing radical about saying the US oppressed/repressed the Iraqi people acoustic?

Nothing radical about calling Bush a liar...Bush lied, people died...without a shred of proof and with 3 US bipartisan commissions and a British inquiry saying just the opposite.

All that's radical Loony Tunes nonsense aligned with the radical Loony Tunes crowds at move on, daily kos and demoscat underground.

Hahaha

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AcousticGod
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posted May 27, 2009 05:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
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No acoustic, you called on people to agree with you. It's pretty weak when you can't stand on your own two feet...and your own arguments.

WHAT?!? Since when don't I stand on my own argument? What fantasy land are we living at today, Jwhop?

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Nothing radical about calling Bush a murderer acoustic?

Nothing radical about saying the American people repressed/oppressed the Iraqi people acoustic?

Nothing radical about saying the US oppressed/repressed the Iraqi people acoustic?

Nothing radical about calling Bush a liar...Bush lied, people died...without a shred of proof and with 3 US bipartisan commissions and a British inquiry saying just the opposite.


Has anyone else ever expressed their opinion of me as being that of a radical on this site in all these years? No

Conversely, what are the opinions we've heard about you from people over the years?

You see what I'm getting at? You can keep posting any list of what you deem to be markers of radicalism all you like. It's not going to change ANYONE'S opinion of who I am, and who I present myself as. To the average, normal person I'm as far from radical as can be. To a person living in an alternate universe of unreality, where untrue is true, I can get why such a rational person might be seen as "radical".

Bringing up the Daily Kos and Democrat Underground is folly. I've never had to visit or quote from either. You, on the other hand, only post stuff you find from Conservative websites. Can't you see the projection? I mean really... Why can't you understand yourself? Is the fog really that dense?

Speaking of which, I have a friend who keeps telling me that you must know when you're wrong. (Yes. Imagine that. Someone finds a Capricorn [Limbaugh, Hannity, Rove] talking politics entertaining.) This person thinks Leos are transparent in general. Are you really that dense that you don't know when you're sunk? Or is it as my friend says, and you've just got to try to find a way to save face each and every time?

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jwhop
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posted May 28, 2009 11:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
There has never been anything radical about what I've said...acoustic

Nothing radical about calling Bush a murderer acoustic?

Nothing radical about saying the American people repressed/oppressed the Iraqi people acoustic?

Nothing radical about saying the US oppressed/repressed the Iraqi people acoustic?

Nothing radical about calling Bush a liar...Bush lied, people died...without a shred of proof and with 3 US bipartisan commissions and a British inquiry saying just the opposite?

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AcousticGod
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posted May 28, 2009 05:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
You've got it. Have anyone ever join you in your assessment of me? And the people around when those arguments were made, did any of them come forth with any assessment that I'm some sort of radical? Nope. You are alone in an erroneously position. Apparently that's a position you favor.

"Bush lied, people died" is YOUR line. I don't know that I've ever seen anyone outside of YOU say it. It didn't stop me from proving it to you a couple times.

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jwhop
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posted May 28, 2009 07:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
I'm not like you acoustic. I'm not so weak that I need others to validate my positions or validate anything else about me.

You are of course lying straight through your teeth with your statement you proved Bush lied about anything at all acoustic.

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AcousticGod
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posted May 28, 2009 07:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
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I'm not so weak that I need others to validate my positions or validate anything else about me.

You're right. You're so weak that you have to block out other people's opinions, because their opinions might make your opinion altogether invalid, and hold your personality to some standards of accountability. I would love to see you in a scientific setting. Oh the squirming and the temper tantrums as your peers invalidate your crazy notions. That would be a blast!

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You are of course lying straight through your teeth with your statement you proved Bush lied about anything at all acoustic.

I am doing no such thing. I did prove it, and it came down to definitions...common thread for today it would seem.

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jwhop
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posted May 28, 2009 11:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
Block out others opinions acoustic? I think you may be ascribing powers to me I don't have. However, if I blocked any opinions they would more than likely belong to you. I've had experience with your fantasy land bubble world opinions. Fortunately, I'm immune to bullshiiit.

You proved no such thing and weren't even close. Tell you what acoustic, this is your chance to prove I'm wrong.

Now acoustic, state the lie Bush told...as you said long ago and got your a$s kicked...which Bush used to lead America to war.

Couldn't have had a thing to do with definitions acoustic, your area of incompetence...and I actually know the definition of lie.

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posted May 29, 2009 07:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah?

Show me the definitions of lie.

This will be a walk in the park.

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Block out others opinions acoustic? I think you may be ascribing powers to me I don't have.

You absolutely have them. Every time you lose an argument you bring them out in order to act as if you haven't just gotten your ass thoroughly kicked. You're either stupid, or you succeed in blocking out reality. Your choice. Take your pick.

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posted May 29, 2009 08:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
Nothing radical about calling Bush a liar...Bush lied, people died...without a shred of proof and with 3 US bipartisan commissions and a British inquiry saying just the opposite?

"I did prove it, and it came down to definitions"...acoustic

"Now acoustic, state the lie Bush told...as you said long ago and got your a$s kicked...which Bush used to lead America to war."

Note acoustic, you're no longer on deck. You're at bat now...so prove Bush lied or go suck an exhaust pipe.

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posted May 30, 2009 12:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
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Show me the definitions of lie.

What? Every time you're asked to confront the truth, you turn away? What's the deal? It was a simple request, and one which loses your argument in two seconds. Why couldn't you do it?


    lie  /laɪ/ Show Spelled [lahy] Show IPA noun, verb, lied, ly⋅ing.
    –noun
    1.a false statement made with deliberate intent to deceive; an intentional untruth; a falsehood.

    2.something intended or serving to convey a false impression; imposture: His flashy car was a lie that deceived no one.

    3.an inaccurate or false statement.

    4.the charge or accusation of lying: He flung the lie back at his accusers.
    –verb (used without object)

    5.to speak falsely or utter untruth knowingly, as with intent to deceive.

    6.to express what is false; convey a false impression.
    –verb (used with object)

    7.to bring about or affect by lying (often used reflexively): to lie oneself out of a difficulty; accustomed to lying his way out of difficulties.
    —Idioms

    8.give the lie to,
    a.to accuse of lying; contradict.
    b.to prove or imply the falsity of; belie: His poor work gives the lie to his claims of experience.

    9.lie in one's throat/teeth, to lie grossly or maliciously: If she told you exactly the opposite of what she told me, she must be lying in her teeth. Also, lie through one's teeth.
    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/lie


You can pick the untruth Bush told for yourself. There's no denying the Administration put forward things that were patently false in pursuit of the war. It's absolutely undeniable.

That makes you 0 for 4 now. We should maybe consider renaming the thread, "Folly by J.W. Hop".

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posted May 30, 2009 09:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
It's difficult to conceive how someone as totally clueless as you acoustic manages to get themselves dressed in the mornings. You need a babysitter or what used to be called a "minder".

The entire thrust of the definition of lie is that the utterance, speech, writing be a deliberate attempt to deceive the reader or listener and that the person attempting the deception knows what they're communicating isn't true and that in fact, it's false. One cannot lie acoustic...without the intent to lie, without the intent to deceive.

So, when the Director of Central Intelligence slams his hand down on the desk and says..."It's a slam dunk Mr. President, Saddam has WMD" and when every other intelligence agency with whom the US shares intelligence...and many we don't share with...believes Saddam has WMD and when Saddam's own Generals believe Saddam has WMD and have battle plans to use WMD and when Blix The Blind files a UN Security Council Report showing Saddam has not accounted for up to 20,000 tons of chemicals used to make VX nerve agent and one small droplet of VX on the exposed skin is a fatal dose and when British Intelligence tells Bush Saddam has sent a weapons/trade delegation to Africa..Niger to buy uranium yellow cake and when US satellite pictures show conveys of heavy trucks removing materials from a known chemical weapons production plant and when the soil around that plant is removed to a depth of about 3 feet and new soil brought in to deceive UN WMD weapons inspectors and when the entire world knows Saddam has used WMD against his own citizens, the Kurds and against the Iranians and when Saddam has been in material breach of his "cease fire" agreement with the UN for 12 years and in the face of at least 15 additional UN Security Council Resolutions demanding Saddam live up to his "cease fire" agreement, part of which is a total restriction on Saddam to not produce and/or stockpile ANY WMD or WMD components, THEN acoustic, when Bush tells Americans Saddam is in material breach of UN Security Council Resolutions, has WMD and recently sought Uranium from Africa, THEN acoustic, THAT'S NOT AN F-ING LIE

In fact, THE F-ING LIE IS.."BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED" AND EVERY DERIVATIVE THEREOF. Those are lies acoustic because the people making those statements know they're F-ING lying through their teeth.

Now Mr. Choke-Whiff, I knew you were going to strike out. Would you care to state a "specific" lie Bush told to lead America to war..with proper attribution?

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posted May 30, 2009 02:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
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One cannot lie acoustic...without the intent to lie, without the intent to deceive.

Obviously one can. You can look up "Lie" in any dictionary, and come up with the same definition of being an uttered falsehood. For instance, you lie about people here all the time. You utter things that are factually untrue with no intent to deceive whatsoever. Glaucus can say with certainty that you lied about his "Icon" being the "leftist" "Marxist" Obama.

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