posted June 05, 2011 05:11 PM            

As usual the moronic press bunglers got history wrong...as they do most everything else.

Reasonable people would think that after tangling with Sarah Palin before on a point of history, they'd run to a credible source to get the facts straight before sticking their necks out for Palin to chop off.

After getting slapped silly...sillier really when the press alleged Palin mixed up 1773 and 1776, you would think these morons would be more careful.

At a TEA PARTY event in Nevada, Sarah Palin told the crowd not to party like it's 1773 and the morons in the press when nuts...errr nuttier.

The Boston Tea Party...1773

Which goes to show people what leftists know about history...not much!

posted June 05, 2011 09:23 PM            

Paul Revere did warn the British about defensive measures colonists were taking, warned them there were 500 guarding Concord and 1500 more on the way.

I make it....in history lessons....

posted June 05, 2011 09:49 PM              

she SAID that he RODE WITH BELLS TO TELL THE BRITISH. HE said he was captured and so gave them information. his ride was not one of bravado to scare the british as she implied...and as she likes to do herself. unfortunately paul revere was not sarah palin, but a man on a SECRET MISSION...

if you don't see the difference i shall have to come to the conclusion that you have had two martinis too many.

posted June 05, 2011 10:04 PM              

what warning shots and bells was he riding his horse through town to send, jwhop? this has NOTHING to do with his being captured and spilling to save his life. do you think the british didn't know the yanks were armed? you and she are talking about two different things and no amount of backtracking on her part will take the place of admitting she goofed. at least obama has the grace to admit his bloopers - and his losses.

and if you are going to laugh at the president for ums and ahs in a 40 minute presentation thinking on his feet, this one was about 30 seconds and contained almost as many.

it's okay. we all **** up. only some of us can't admit it!

posted June 05, 2011 10:58 PM            

"We rode till we got near Lexington Meeting-house, when the Militia fired a Voley of Guns, which appeared to alarm them very much."

So, Revere was captured by the British, told them about colonial defenses, shots were fired by the Militia.

What's left? Oh yeah, bells were rung.

Perhaps you're unaware but ringing church bells was a summoning call for citizens when an emergency arose in colonial America...and even after that time. British troops..Regulars marching on colonial towns would most certainly qualify as an...emergency.

Face it, press morons are historically ignorant. All this information is readily available with a simple search.

Palin right
Press wrong

posted June 06, 2011 07:28 AM            

Press morons wrong
Leftist bloviators wrong

Sarah Palin right

Even the Centrist Boston Herald Concedes Palin’s Historical Account Was Accurate
June 06 2011

Sarah Palin yesterday insisted her claim at the Old North Church last week that Paul Revere “warned the British” during his famed 1775 ride — remarks that Democrats and the media roundly ridiculed — is actually historically accurate. And local historians are backing her up.

In fact, Revere’s own account of the ride in a 1798 letter seems to back up Palin’s claim.

Boston University history professor Brendan McConville said, “Basically when Paul Revere was stopped by the British, he did say to them, ‘Look, there is a mobilization going on that you’ll be confronting,’ and the British are aware as they’re marching down the countryside, they hear church bells ringing — she was right about that — and warning shots being fired. That’s accurate.”

Patrick Leehey of the Paul Revere House said Revere was probably bluffing his British captors, but reluctantly conceded that it could be construed as Revere warning the British.

Let's see....

Revere warns British Lexington and Concord are defended....CHECK

Church Bells were ringing....CHECK

Shots were fired.....CHECK

posted June 06, 2011 07:35 AM            

Sarah Palin yesterday insisted her claim at the Old North Church last week that Paul Revere “warned the British” during his famed 1775 ride — remarks that Democrats and the media roundly ridiculed — is actually historically accurate. And local historians are backing her up.

Palin prompted howls of partisan derision when she said on Boston’s Freedom Trail that Revere “warned the British that they weren’t going to be taking away our arms by ringing those bells and making sure as he’s riding his horse through town to send those warning shots and bells that we were going to be secure and we were going to be free.”

Palin insisted yesterday on Fox News Sunday she was right: “Part of his ride was to warn the British that were already there. That, hey, you’re not going to succeed. You’re not going to take American arms.”

In fact, Revere’s own account of the ride in a 1798 letter seems to back up Palin’s claim. Revere describes how after his capture by British officers, he warned them “there would be five hundred Americans there in a short time for I had alarmed the Country all the way up.”

Boston University history professor Brendan McConville said, “Basically when Paul Revere was stopped by the British, he did say to them, ‘Look, there is a mobilization going on that you’ll be confronting,’ and the British are aware as they’re marching down the countryside, they hear church bells ringing — she was right about that — and warning shots being fired. That’s accurate.”

Patrick Leehey of the Paul Revere House said Revere was probably bluffing his British captors, but reluctantly conceded that it could be construed as Revere warning the British.

“I suppose you could say that,” Leehey said. “But I don’t know if that’s really what Mrs. Palin was referring to.”

McConville said he also is not convinced that Palin’s remarks reflect scholarship.

“I would call her lucky in her comments,” McConville said.

Meanwhile, the state’s Democratic Party held a thin blue line on the issue, insisting on mocking Palin despite a brief historical review of the matter. State party chairman John Walsh wise-cracked that the region welcomes all tourists, even those with “an alternative view of history.”

“If you believe he was riding through the countryside sending text messages and Tweets to the British, still come to Boston,” he said. “There are a lot of things to do and see.”

posted June 06, 2011 11:40 AM            

This weekend, Tuned In Jr., who is studying Boston and the American Revolution in school, mentioned that he was getting a "locked" error message while trying to load a Wikipedia page on Paul Revere. I know! As a father and a journalist, I should know better than to let my son use Wikipedia as a primary source. Fortunately, the news cycle has intervened to give us a perfect object lesson, by providing a possible reason Revere's page may have been in limbo yesterday: over the weekend, there was a war between Wikipedia editors and supporters of Sarah Palin, who were trying to "fix" the entry to make it conform with Palin's flubbed description of Revere's ride.

Read more: http://tunedin.blogs.time.com/2011/06/06/palin-fans-try-to-rewrite-history-or-at-least-wikipedia-on-paul-revere/#ixzz1OVhfum4r

Revere's 1775 ride, on the eve of the Revolutionary War, was designed to warn Samuel Adams and John Hancock that British troops were coming to arrest them. Along the way, Revere also alerted residents that the British were on the march.

"You know what, I didn't mess up about Paul Revere," Palin insisted. "I know my American history."

Palin maintained that "part of his ride was to warn the British, that were already there, that, 'Hey, you're not going to succeed. You're not going to take American arms. You are not going to beat our own well-armed persons, individual private militia that we have.' He did warn the British."

The historical record does not support Palin's contention that Revere intended to warn the British. In fact, he attempted to evade British troops that night, but a patrol intercepted him and questioned him at gunpoint.

According to Revere's account, in a letter written almost a quarter of a century later, he told British officers "that there would be 500 Americans there in a short time, for I had alarmed the country all the way up."
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-palin-2012-20110606,0,342521.story

posted June 06, 2011 11:48 AM            

That Wiki was being tampered with is the real story here, this has happened many times before, I just looked for the link on my comp---cannot find it.

posted June 06, 2011 12:31 PM            

Paul Revere disagrees with you.

The Massachusetts Historical Society disagrees with you.

Local historians in Massachusetts disagree with you. AND....

all 3 agree with Sarah Palin.

What a revolting development that is for the historically challenged, terminally ignorant leftist press and their sycophants.

Correction:

Wiki is not the real story here.

posted June 06, 2011 12:33 PM            

The Paul Revere House's website says that on April 18, 1775, Dr. Joseph Warren, a patriot leader in the Boston area, instructed Revere to ride to Lexington, Mass., to warn Samuel Adams and John Hancock that British troops were marching to arrest them.

In an undated letter posted by the Massachusetts Historical Society, Revere later wrote of the need to keep his activities secret and his suspicion that a member of his tight circle of planners had become a British informant. According to the letter, believed to have been written around 1798, Revere did provide some details of the plan to the soldiers that night, but after he had notified other colonists and under questioning by the Redcoats.

Intercepted and surrounded by British soldiers on his way from Lexington to Concord, Revere revealed "there would be five hundred Americans there in a short time, for I had alarmed the country all the way up," he wrote.

Revere was probably bluffing the soldiers about the size of any advancing militia, since he had no way of knowing, according to Joel J. Miller, author of "The Revolutionary Paul Revere." And while he made bells, Revere would never have rung any on that famous night because the Redcoats were under orders to round up people just like him.

"He was riding off as quickly and as quietly as possible," Miller said. "Paul Revere did not want the Redcoats to know of his mission at all."
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hw4xrrp SyxE3jVkUJoOxWpdfJWow?docId=d8fbda0834bc45e4b0065960e828edb9

posted June 06, 2011 12:39 PM            

irrelevant and immaterial.

Revere said what he said and what Paul Revere said agrees down the line with what Sarah Palin said.

posted June 06, 2011 01:00 PM            

The Massachuetts Historical Society agrees with Sarah Palin. This is the institution which has Paul Revere's 1789 letter which agrees down the line with what Palin said.

You've lost again!

posted June 06, 2011 01:05 PM            

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The Massachuetts Historical Society agrees with Sarah Palin.

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No it doesn't.

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This is the institution which has Paul Revere's 1789 letter which agrees down the line with what Palin said.

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That letter does no such thing.

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posted June 06, 2011 01:31 PM            

This is directly from the letter of 1789 from the pen of Paul Revere. This letter is in the hands of the Massacheutts Historical Society and cannot be denied.

"I observed a Wood at a Small distance, & made for that.
When I got there, out Started Six officers, on Horse back,
and orderd me to dismount;-one of them, who appeared
to have the command, examined me, where I came from,
& what my Name Was? I told him. it was Revere, he as-
ked if it was Paul? I told him yes He asked me if
I was an express? I answered in the afirmative. He
demanded what time I left Boston? I told him; and
aded, that their troops had catched aground in passing the River,
and that There would be five hundred Americans there
in a short time, for I had alarmed the Country all the way up.
He imediately rode towards those who stoppd us,
when all five of them came down upon a full gallop;
one of them, whom I afterwards found to be Major
Mitchel, of the 5th Regiment, Clapped his pistol to my head, called me by name,
& told me he was going to ask me some questions, & if I
did not give him true answers, he would blow my
brains out. He then asked me similar questions to those
above. He then orderd me to mount my Horse, after
searching me for arms. He then orderd them to advance,
& to lead me in front. When we got to the Road, they
turned down towards Lexington. When we had got about one
Mile, the Major Rode up to the officer that was leading
me, & told him to give me to the Sergeant. As soon as
he took me, the Major orderd him, if I attempted to
run, or any body insulted them, to blow my brains out.
We rode till we got near Lexington Meeting-house,
when the Militia fired a Voley of Guns, which ap-
peared to alarm them very much. The Major inqui-
red of me how far it was to Cambridge, and if there were
any other Road? After some consultation, the Major
http://www.masshist.org/database/img-viewer.php?item_id=99&img_step=1&tpc=&pid=&mode=transcript&tpc=&pid=#page1

Paul Revere warned the British Regulars...Redcoats that Concord and Lexington were defended and that he had alerted them to the British troop movements.

Further, as the British moved close to Lexington, the militia fired a volly...which Revere said alarmed the British.

If I were you acoustic, I'd drop this subject like a hot rock. Palin is right, the press and history challenged sycophant leftists are wrong and lying about what's in Revere's letter isn't going to salvage your nonsense.

posted June 06, 2011 02:55 PM            

The letter, if you read it with any clarity, clearly doesn't support Palin's position.

Revere doesn't write anywhere in that letter that he warned Brits against trying to take the arms of the locals.

Palin said NOTHING about Concord or Lexington being defended, nor did she talk about troop movement.

posted June 06, 2011 06:23 PM            

Revere "didn't say" he warned the British...he said he told them the truth...under duress.

You're arguing about a distinction without a difference and you damned well know you are.

Lying in any form is disgusting and contemptible. Who in the hell can have a reasonable discussion with a liar?

posted June 06, 2011 06:35 PM            

This is VERY simple, Jwhop. Palin said some specific things, which no one outside of you and Miss Palin take to be a true account of Paul Revere. End of story.

Palin’s Twist on Paul Revere

Sarah Palin's much-ridiculed story of Paul Revere isn't entirely wrong, but it's badly twisted. Revere didn't ring bells or fire shots, and he was riding to warn two fellow rebels that the British were coming to arrest them, not to warn the British "that they weren't going to be taking away our arms."

That's what the former Alaska governor said in an offhand remark, caught by a TV camera at a June 2 stop in Boston:

Palin, June 2: [Revere] warned the British that they weren't going to be taking away our arms, by ringing those bells and making sure as he was riding his horse through town to send those warning shots and bells that we were going to be secure and we were going to be free.

Palin's mangled history was quickly dismissed by news reporters and comedians. But then Palin said on June 5 on "Fox News Sunday" that she "didn't mess up" the Paul Revere story, and that "I know my American history."

Fox's Chris Wallace: You realized that you messed up about Paul Revere, don't you?

Palin: You know what? I didn't mess up about Paul Revere. Here is what Paul Revere did. He warned the Americans that the British were coming, the British were coming, and they were going to try take our arms and we got to make sure that we were protecting ourselves and shoring up all of ammunitions and our firearms so that they couldn't take it.

But remember that the British had already been there, many soldiers for seven years in that area. And part of Paul Revere's ride — and it wasn't just one ride — he was a courier, he was a messenger. Part of his ride was to warn the British that we're already there. That, hey, you're not going to succeed. You're not going to take American arms. You are not going to beat our own well-armed persons, individual, private militia that we have. He did warn the British.

And in a shout-out, gotcha type of question that was asked of me, I answered candidly. And I know my American history.

So how does Palin's version compare with, say, Paul Revere's? Not very well. Revere, in the most complete account he gave of his famous ride, a letter written about 1798, stated that he rode to warn fellow rebels Samuel Adams and John Hancock that the British were coming to arrest them. This transcription, Revere's spelling mistakes and all, is posted on the website of the Massachusetts Historical Society:

Paul Revere, c 1798: On Tuesday evening, the 18th, it was observed, that a number of Soldiers were marching towards the bottom of the Common. About 10 o'Clock, Dr. Warren Sent in great haste for me, and beged that I would imediately Set off for Lexington, where Messrs. Hancock & Adams were, and acquaint them of the Movement, and that it was thought they were the objets.

Revere didn't mention firing any shots or ringing any bells, and neither does the account given by the Paul Revere House in its brief history, "The Real Story of Paul Revere's Ride."

Paul Revere House: On the way to Lexington, Revere "alarmed" the country-side, stopping at each house, and arrived in Lexington about midnight. As he approached the house where Adams and Hancock were staying, a sentry asked that he not make so much noise. "Noise!" cried Revere, "You'll have noise enough before long. The regulars are coming out!"

It's true that shots were fired and bells were rung, but not by Revere. According to David Hackett Fischer's 1995 book "Paul Revere's Ride," Revere rode to the house of Captain Isaac Hall, commander of Medford's minutemen, and it was Hall who triggered the town's alarm system. Fischer added (on page 140): "A townsman remembered that 'repeated gunshots, the beating of drums and the ringing of bells filled the air.' "

In Palin's defense, it's true that American rebels had stored arms and gunpowder at Concord, and that British Gen. Thomas Gage not only had orders to arrest the leaders, but had decided to seize and destroy those arms. Alerted by Revere, American militia members confronted the British at the battles of Lexington and Concord, the first armed encounters of the Revolutionary War.

It's also true that Revere spoke to British officers — though that was by no means his intent. He was seized by a British patrol before he got to Concord. Revere, under questioning, told British officers that 500 Americans were coming to confront them. As he told it in his 1798 recollection:

Paul Revere: [An officer] asked me if I was an express? I answered in the afirmative. He demanded what time I left Boston? I told him; and aded, that their troops had catched aground in passing the River, and that There would be five hundred Americans there in a short time, for I had alarmed the Country all the way up.

Another officer "[c]lapped his pistol to my head, called me by name, & told me he was going to ask me some questions, & if I did not give him true answers, he would blow my brains out," Revere recalled. He was still in British custody when the first shots were fired at Lexington, "which appeared to alarm them very much," Revere said. The British later released Revere, after taking the horse he had been riding. But Revere makes no mention of specifically "warning" the British against trying to seize arms. In fact, the Americans moved most of the arms before Gen. Gage's troops could find them.
http://factcheck.org/2011/06/palins-twist-on-paul-revere/

That's a WHOLE LOT OF CAVEATS to put on her account of Paul Revere. Get it?

posted June 07, 2011 01:00 AM              

Revere "didn't say" he warned the British...he said he told them the truth...under duress

in other words his ride in no way was "to warn the british (with bells or NOT) that we were armed and would be free" as palin said quite plainly. what he said to the british was in fear of his life and no bravado or warning off at all at all.

he was caught off guard with a gun to his head, not riding through the countryside with bells to scare the british with bragging about how well-armed the revolutionaries were.

posted June 07, 2011 01:07 AM              

Revere "didn't say" he warned the British...he said he told them the truth...under duress

in other words, he was not riding to warn the british that they wouldn't be able to beat us, he was caught, with a gun to his head and squealed. BIG mistake.

and that reporter was being nice talking to her, not giving her a "gotcha" question...how paranoid is she? she was given a photo op which is why she was there, wasn't it? publicity?

besides umming and ahhing her way through a couple of sentences, never mind 40 minutes of serious questioning, she invented something that sounded more like her than a revolutionary who KNEW that SURPRISE and secrecty were our best weapons.

posted June 07, 2011 09:20 AM            

But, Revere did warn the British. Even the historian admits...grudgingly that's what happened...but he says Revere was most likely trying to "Bluff" the British commander.

To warn, to tell, to inform. Words with similar meanings but when speaking of imparting information about a danger to those hearing or reading it...WARN is the most correct and that's the word Sarah Palin used.

In the various accounts of Revere's rides as a courier for the colonists, you have every element Sarah Palin spoke about.

You have the British being warned
You have shots fired
You have bells being rung

end of the story.

As usual, leftists can't get anything right.

Paul Revere's account agrees with Palin
Newspapers agree with Palin
Even the historians agree with Palin

Sarah Palin continues to kick the as$es of leftists...including the object of leftists affection...The One, The Messiah, O'Bomber.

posted June 07, 2011 10:26 AM            

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Sarah Palin never said Paul Revere "set out" to warn the British about colonist's defenses.But, Revere did warn the British. Even the historian admits...grudgingly that's what happened...but he says Revere was most likely trying to "Bluff" the British commander.To warn, to tell, to inform. Words with similar meanings but when speaking of imparting information about a danger to those hearing or reading it...WARN is the most correct and that's the word Sarah Palin used.

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You need to reacquaint yourself with what Palin said. In her misguided account, which newspapers DON'T agree with by the way, Revere warned the British that they couldn't take our arms. No accurate account of Paul Revere says anything remotely similar to that. Warning that our rebels are armed is not the same as warning that you won't be able to confiscate our arms. Two different ideas entirely. This plain to anyone with a rudimentary understanding of the english language.

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In the various accounts of Revere's rides as a courier for the colonists, you have every element Sarah Palin spoke about. You have the British being warned. You have shots fired. You have bells being rung. End of the story.

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Completely absurd. I've posted enough here already for you to fully comprehend the error in her recounting the tale. The warning she talked about doesn't match the conversation he had with the Redcoats. Revere rang no bells. Shots fired were not by his pistol.

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You know you're in big trouble when you have to resort to lies, slander, libel, distortion and spin in attempts to make your case against a political opponent.

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