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jwhop
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posted November 06, 2009 02:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
It's O'Bomber himself and his Kool-Aid drinking sycophants who have called O'Bomber "The One", "The Messiah" and "Sort of Like God".

I merely reported those facts...and remind from time to time what the Kool-Aid drinking brigades have said.

Now admit it katatonic. O'Bomber is an utterly corrupt Chicago machine politician who uses taxpayer money to pay back his supporters.

There's a vast difference between appointing supporters and contributors to Ambassadorships around the world, putting them up in the White House, inviting them to White House parties AND....using American taxpayer funds to invest in projects which directly benefit supporters and contributors...like the taxpayer funded advance to Brazil on behalf of George Soros who owns the largest number of shares in an offshore drilling and oil production company.

It's even worse when you realize O'Bomber and the brain dead demoscats in Congress forbid oil exploration, drilling and production of oil off the coasts of the United States...and oppose even drilling and production within the landmass of the United States.

O'Bomber is a supreme hypocrite and he's as corrupt as they come.

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posted November 06, 2009 10:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
could it be they are trying to buy our own oil via brazil and the soros connection? you know, shut the arabs out and get some control without digging up our whole country?

went to the beach the other day and the sand was streaked eerily as the water went out....hasn't been an oil spill round here for many months but the stuff is still there. soon we could be watching the brown waves come in and talking bout the good old days when you could actually swim and fish in the ocean...

like i said, tesla provided the basics for completely free energy 65 years ago. but it's hard to patent the electricity in the air, isn't it? oh well.

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jwhop
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posted November 06, 2009 11:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
So you say katatonic. There is rumor, supposition and innuendo that Tesla found a clean, limitless and free source of energy.

You can prove it's true by posting here the details and plans for producing that energy.

There is more oil in Alaska, off the coast of Alaska, off the coast of California, in the Gulf of Mexico and in the Bakken reserves than exist under the sands of the Middle East. That doesn't take into account the existing oil fields in the American Southwest and California.

O'Bomber paid Soros back for all the money Soros spent on his behalf...and the payback was in the form of US taxpayer dollars.

That's political and financial corruption pure and simple. I thought you were against such practices. Or, is your fallback position...."everyone does it"?

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katatonic
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posted November 07, 2009 12:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
dearest, if i had the plans i would be working on it myself! and YOU can prove that obama called himself the one by posting some evidence of that! i NEVER heard him or anyone else comparing him to god.

and no, "everybody does it" is not an excuse. but tell me, if you were president what would YOU say to the people who got you in and wanted a return favour? fly a kite? shoot me? what?

in my opinion a rookie president has only one choice, and that is to play the game or BE SEEN TO BE playing the game until in a position to turn the tables. (or die young!)now i know i am not smart enough to play that game so i stay out of politics!!

i don't approve of funding soros or brazil in excavating oil, but i can understand the rationale for it. if brazil is going to go ahead and do it, it is probably better that we get a hand in than be left out? the oil coming our way will be cheaper than arab oil i assume. brazil is closer and friendlier, and if we are investors in the program, then we should see the results in gas prices etc.

it doesn't change the fact that the continued production of oil is killing our seas and contaminating our land. nor does it change the fact that this administration is pledged to clean up energy and investing in oil is hardly doing that.

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posted November 08, 2009 11:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
The Pelosi Bill Was Rammed Through on Saturday, But Sunday’s Coming
Yesterday at 10:34pm
Sarah Palin

We’ve got to hold on to hope, and we’ve got to fight hard because Congressional action tonight just put America on a path toward an unrecognizable country.

The same government leaders that got us into the mortgage business and the car business are now getting us into the health care business.

Despite Americans’ decisive message last Tuesday that they reject the troubling path this country has been taking, Speaker Pelosi has broken her own promises of transparency to ram a health “care” bill through the House of Representatives just before midnight. Why did she push the 2,000 page bill this weekend? Was she perhaps afraid to give her peers and the constituents for whom she works the chance to actually read this monstrous bill carefully, if at all? Was she concerned that Americans might really digest the details of a bill that the Wall Street Journal has called “the worst piece of post-New Deal legislation ever introduced”?

This out-of-control bureaucratic mess will be disastrous for our economy, our small businesses, and our personal liberty. It will slam businesses at a time when we are at double-digit unemployment rates – the highest we’ve seen in a quarter of a century. This massive new bureaucracy will cost us and our children money we don’t have. It will rob Americans of more of our freedom and further hamper the free market.

Make no mistake: we’re on course to have government commandeer one-sixth of our economy. The people who gave us Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac now want to run our health care. Think about that.

All of us who value the sanctity of life are grateful for the success of the pro-life majority in the House this evening in its battle against federal funding of abortion in this bill, but it’s ironic because we were promised that abortion wasn’t covered in the bill to begin with. Our healthy distrust of these government leaders made us look deeper into the bill because unfortunately we knew better than to trust what they were saying. The victory tonight to amend the bill and eliminate that federal funding for abortion was great – because abortion is not health care. Now we can only hope that Rep. Stupak’s amendment will hold in the final bill, though the Democratic leadership has already refused to promise that it won’t be scrapped later.

We had been told there were no “death panels” in the bill either. But look closely at the provision mandating bureaucratic panels that will be calling the shots regarding who will receive government health care.

Look closely at provisions addressing illegal aliens’ health care coverage too.

Those of us who love freedom and believe in open and transparent government can only be dismayed by midnight action on a Saturday. Speaker Pelosi’s promise that Americans would have 72 hours to read the final bill before the vote was just another one of the D.C. establishment’s too-common political ploys. It’s broken promises like this that turn people off to politics and leave them disillusioned about the future of their country.

But despite this late-night maneuvering, many of us were paying close attention tonight. We’ll keep paying close attention. We need to let our legislators in Washington know that they still represent us, and that the majority of Americans are not in favor of the “reform” they are pushing. After all, this is still a country “of the people, by the people, and for the people.” We will make our voices heard. It’s on to the Senate now. Our legislators can listen now, or they can hear us in 2010. It’s their choice.

- Sarah Palin
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katatonic
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posted November 08, 2009 04:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
"Our healthy distrust of these government leaders made us look deeper into the bill"

i'm sorry but why does it take "distrust" of those in power to make the responsible parties read the bill in the first place? is it customary to "trust the authors" and vote without looking? seems so, actually!

and who is this "WE" she is talking about? she is NOT IN THE GOVERNMENT and she is NOT THE QUEEN of america. so the "we" neither applies to her and colleagues in congress, nor herself as the "royal we"....who DOES it refer to?

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jwhop
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posted November 08, 2009 05:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
It seems under demoscat "Rule" bills are brought to the floor for a vote without sufficient time to read them. That's deliberate by the way.

Of course, this violates the promises of both O'Bomber and Pee-Lousy to post final bills on the Internet for 3-5 days prior to bringing the bills to the floor for a vote...or signing them into law.

You seem to be talking out of both sides of your mouth at the same time katatonic.

You comment about Sarah Palin..."Our healthy distrust of these government leaders made us look deeper into the bill"

Then talk about "responsible parties"...which included NO leftist demoscats by definition...and finish up by taking a shot at Palin suggesting she is not in government.

But, you failed to comprehend what Palin said. When she talks about "we", she's talking about those who are not part of the debacle which is the O'Bomber administration or part of the totally out of control demoscat controlled Congress.

She's talking about the citizens of the US who are fed up with both Congress and O'Bomber AND those include democrats, independents and republicans and especially Conservative members across the political party spectrum.

Reading with comprehension is sooo important. Don't you agree katatonic? I'll bet you thought Palin was using "we" in the sense of Queens, Kings and Emperors who use the pronoun We when they're talking about themselves in the 3rd person.

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posted November 08, 2009 06:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message
Too bad when a recent bill (Nov 5) was on the floor to strengthen the coverage of the Patriot Act [sic] the close vote went to a NAY because....wait for it

Everyone was outside at screamist Extremist Michelle Bachmann's Kill the Bill rally against health care.

Had they been inside and voted....

10 buses provided by the AstroTurf Freedom Works. And more of Dick Army's army.

Outside, Rep. Todd Akin (R-Mo.) led a crowd in the Pledge of Allegiance -- which he said drives the liberals crazy.
Too bad he forgot the words!


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/05/michele-bachmann-tells-su_n_346640.html

I am posting this link from THE HUFF as it was the top of the google page.....


And posting reams of SP off face book in response to the query is indeed hilarious.

Said in my best John McEnroe impersonation
You cannot be serious!

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jwhop
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posted November 08, 2009 08:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
Hahaha, the Huffing and Puffing Post.

Now there's a delusional bunch disconnected from reality.

I feel the need for another laugh. Could you also post something from move on dot org?

If you want to send me into fits of uncontrollable laughter, post something from democrat underground.

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katatonic
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posted November 08, 2009 09:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
there is nothing wrong with my comprehension. just because i'm not swooning when i read something coming from Sorry, Peeling, doesn't mean i can't understand her. it's true i don't empathize with her.

she is not in the government and yet she continues to talk as if she were. she acts as if it were not the responsibility of those voting on ALL bills to read them. and if they haven't they should bloody well be saying so. and if this was rammed through at midnight on saturday they should bloody well be asking for a new vote when they've had time.

no one is getting electric shock treatment if they stall a vote.

it's still not final. a short while ago the right was crowing because the dems couldn't pass their own bill. now they're moaning that it's been done behind everyone's back.

what happened to those wayward dems who were dragging their feet? seems the votes on tuesday didn't convince them this bill was unwanted by their constituencies, doesn't it?

but it's not over till its over is it? meanwhile, miss impaler is using what's going on in this country to - sell a book!

i'll give her one thing, she's got balls.

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posted November 08, 2009 11:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message
So JW you think it is OK to miss the vote on a bill to get face time with Michele?

Your right it is funny.

and that Pledge of Allegiance is pure icing

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katatonic
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posted November 09, 2009 12:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
"moderate Democratic Senators oppose the bill. Without their support, the proposed health insurance plan will not pass the second hurdle in the race to become law.

The bill needs 60 of 100 Senators to support it. If it's passed, it would then have to be reconciled with the House version by a Congressional panel before going to final debate." http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2009/nov/09110707.html

in other words, there is more time to READ the thing...dunno in the first place, how palin thinks she knows what is in a bill that was too long to read in time?...and a senate vote which is unlikely to pass it as is even if they DON'T read it...and then reconciliation.

so again we are squawking about the sky falling when really it's just some easily predicted meteor dust...

get reading folks! then you will know what you are getting roiled up about!

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posted November 09, 2009 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
perhaps we should have a law that requires our reps in congress to READ any bill before they vote on it?

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jwhop
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posted November 13, 2009 02:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you, Washington, for Requesting a Demonstrably Good Idea
Today at 4:54pm

I commend the president for acknowledging today that “there are limits to what government can and should do” to ease our 10.2% unemployment rate – the highest it’s been since 1983. I also applaud his call for suggestions and expression of openness to considering “any demonstrably good idea.” Taking him at his word, I’d like to suggest this one: let’s learn from history and follow the example of the man who occupied the White House in 1983 and was able to transform an even worse recession than the one we’re currently experiencing into the largest peacetime economic expansion in American history.

When you realize the magnitude of President Reagan’s achievements, there is absolutely no reason why anyone would ignore his “demonstrably good” example. If you want real job growth, cut taxes – including capital gains taxes and small business payroll taxes – and slay the death tax once and for all. If you want to stimulate the economy and help poor and middle class families, cut payroll taxes so that more Americans can keep and invest more of what they earn.

If you want lasting economic expansion and prosperity, get the federal government’s budget under control. Instead of more pork-laden stimulus plans, let the free market correct itself. That’s what Reagan did, and history proves it worked.

In his comments today, the president honorably suggested that he welcomes our ideas on how to put America’s economy on the right track. But, there also seemed to be a suggested chastisement of the private sector’s efforts to right some economic wrongs when he said, “...small businesses and large firms...have not yet been willing to take the steps necessary to hire again.”

As business owners seek to expand, or just to keep doors open today, it’s not as if they are refusing to hire out of spite. Given a pro-private sector environment they will be only too happy to hire more people and grow their businesses. Perhaps if leadership in Washington reassured them by, for example, cutting tax burdens and making government more efficient, it would send our businesses a message that it’s safe and smart to expand today.

These are difficult times for so many Americans who are out of work. I implore our leaders to not threaten our economy’s job creators with increased taxes and job-killing schemes like cap-and-tax and the government health care takeover. Government needs to get out of their way and off their backs so that they can grow and hire again.

The lessons of history are clear. We’re blessed to have so many lessons from which to learn, and we’d be smart to emulate successes in America’s past. Our economic recovery decisions should be based on the same free market principles that Reagan employed. They work, history proves it, and I thank our president for asking for this input.

- Sarah Palin
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posted November 13, 2009 11:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
"During Reagan's tenure, income tax rates of the top personal tax bracket dropped from 70% to 28% in 7 years,[10] while social security and medicare taxes increased.[11][12] Real Gross Domestic Product (GDP) growth recovered strongly after the 1982 recession and produced five straight quarters of growth averaging 8.4%. The GDP grew during Reagan's remaining years in office at an annual rate of 3.4% per year,[13] slightly lower than the post-World War II average of 3.6%.[14] Unemployment peaked at over 10.7% percent in 1982 then dropped during the rest of Reagan's terms, and inflation significantly decreased.[15] A net job increase of about 16 million also occurred (about the rate of population growth).

The policies were derided by some as "Trickle-down economics,"[16] due to the significant cuts in the upper tax brackets. There was a massive increase in Cold War related defense spending that caused large budget deficits,[17] the U.S. trade deficit expansion,[17] and contributed to the Savings and Loan crisis,[18] In order to cover new federal budget deficits, the United States borrowed heavily both domestically and abroad, raising the national debt from $700 billion to $3 trillion,[19] and the United States moved from being the world's largest international creditor to the world's largest debtor nation.[20" - wikipedia

so let's just put this in perspective and say that AFTER EIGHT YEARS one will have the same kind of hindsight on obama's administration.

the economy went DOWN during reagan's first TWO+ years, and though he reduced the top bracket INCOME tax social security and medicare taxes went up (again affecting the poorer people since there is a cap on how much you can contribute to SS at least) and rather than tax the people directly we BORROWED from foreign sources and gave ourselves A BIG FAT DEFICIT!

the current unemployment rate is STILL LOWER than it was more than halfway into reagan's first term. and during his presidencey " the United States moved from being the world's largest international creditor to the world's largest debtor nation."


so, it seems, it may still be a bit premature to judge our rookie in the white house! ESPECIALLY BY COMPARING HIM TO REAGAN, a lot of whose "success" carried hidden "failure" for those who followed him.

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posted November 13, 2009 12:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
and this one, well you just gotta feel sorry for poor little sarah! first, she's plucked out of nowhere for a shot at the vice presidency of america. then she's subjected to the party and campaign managers' ideas about what she should do, say and look like. makes you wonder if they didn't just choose her to pull in the stalwart conservative christian right, and especially the women and men who would a)identify and b)drool over a family gal politican who is, to some tastes, good looking and energetic. of course she is a darn sight better looking since they paid katie couric's stylist to revamp her image. which she complains about but, i notice, has not scuppered.
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/33895112/ns/today-today_books/?GT1=43001

and to those who think she is the "real deal" she also apparently admits in the book that much of what she said on campaign was either editted out or spoonfed to her by the campaign team. darn it!

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posted November 19, 2009 12:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
Sarah Palin gives Oprah biggest audience in two years
November 18, 2009

Oprah Winfrey’s interview with former vp candidate Sarah Palin scored the talk show host her highest rating in two years.

Monday's episode of "The Oprah Winfrey Show" drew a 8.7 household rating and 13 share -- the best since Winfrey had the entire Osmond family on the show in 2007.

That means Palin also topped Winfrey's heavily viewed interviews with Whitney Houston at the start of the season......

http://www.thrfeed.com/2009/11/sarah-palin-oprah-ratings-.html

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posted November 19, 2009 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ghanima81     Edit/Delete Message
No retort? Hmm...

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posted November 19, 2009 05:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
unfortunately the only retorts that come to mind are way beyond rude...

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jwhop
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posted November 19, 2009 05:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
Oh do go ahead katatonic.

If you can't think of anything that's true just make it up as you usually do.

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posted November 20, 2009 09:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ghanima81     Edit/Delete Message
Actually, I meant jwhop had no retort except to post Palin on Oprah... Looking like a pagent queen, I might add. I'm with you, kat.

You know I love you anyway, jwhoppers.

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