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Topic: Does Pres. Obama "get away" with more?
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Eleanore Moderator Posts: 71 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 27, 2009 10:21 AM
Worth reading but I'll just highlight a bit and link. quote: Indeed, Bush got grief for secret meetings with the oil industry, politicizing the White House and spending too much time on his beloved bike. But it’s not just Republicans who notice. Media observers note that the president often gets kid-glove treatment from the press, fellow Democrats and, particularly, interest groups on the left — Bush’s loudest critics, Obama’s biggest backers. But others say there’s a larger phenomenon at work — in the story line the media wrote about Obama’s presidency. For Bush, the theme was that of a Big Business Republican who rode the family name to the White House, so stories about secret energy meetings and a certain laziness, intellectual and otherwise, fit neatly into the theme, to be replayed over and over again. Obama’s story line was more positive from the start: historic newcomer coming to shake up Washington. So the negatives that sprung up around Obama — like a sense that he was more flash than substance — track what negative coverage he’s received, captured in a recent “Saturday Night Live” skit that made fun of his lack of accomplishments in office. “There may well be almost an unconscious effort on the part of the media to give Obama a bit more slack because he is more likable, because he is the first African-American president. That plays into it,” said Sherry Bebitch Jeffe, a political analyst at the University of Southern California. Democrats find the complaints of Obama “getting a pass” hard to stomach in light of the way the press treated Bush — particularly on the single biggest mistake of his presidency, relying on the faulty intelligence leading up to the war in Iraq. Now, Obama’s aides say, the positive coverage simply reflects the fact that their efforts are succeeding.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20091027/pl_politico/28764 PS
(link from above article) http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1009/28417.html
I'm laughing that FOX would be singled out as not "news". Not that they're pure and simple reporting but the fact that they're trying to distinguish them from CNN because FOX has a "perspective" as if CNN doesn't. Watch any coverage of CNN and try and tell me with a straight face that they don't repeatedly not only share their opinions but that they don't phrase and slant their reporting with their "perspective" ... one that more often than not portrays everything left/democrat as having rose smelling poop. How convenient for Dunn and Emanuel. IP: Logged |
NosiS Moderator Posts: 91 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 27, 2009 08:57 PM
ABSOLUTELY!IP: Logged |
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 2512 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 27, 2009 10:58 PM
well i don't listen to either one very much..but the tone and content of fox is way over the top. cnn has its bias too, and maybe they are more subversive in that they "masquerade" as news, but fox is 100% propaganda and at a very high shrill decibel too for the most part. of course ALL news contains bias, the people who report it are human with their own viewpoints, and the corporations they work for have their ideas of what's fit to print. what newspaper used to have that as a slogan (all the news that's fit to print) and then there was another that countered that with (all the news that fits)! but surely it's a matter of degree? or does CNN have shrieking hosts and newsreaders now too? fox give the shortest shrift to "facts" i have ever seen...with the possible exception of NPR, on the other side of the fence and equally adamant that their point of view is the only one worth listening to... whether obama is getting away with more, not sure...seems the opposition is much more het up than they were during the last administration...but the spin doctors are all still in place and life goes on in govt as usual. IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 1065 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 28, 2009 02:17 PM
The idea O'Bomber isn't getting away with more, the idea some are trying to float here and elsewhere is absurd.For instance, the press had nothing whatsoever to say about O'Bomber's Communist Party USA political mentor Frank Marshall Davis, or about his domestic terrorist communist friend Bill Ayers. For instance, the press only trotted out the story about his racist, anti-American, cursing America Black Liberation Theology preacher....after it was so far out of the bag they had no choice. For instance, the press still haven't told the story about an O'Bomber appointee named Van Jones...a self admitted communist revolutionary...and how he came to be appointed to a high level Administration job. On issue after issue concerning O'Bomber, the press is utterly silent, never vetted O'Bomber in any way and generally go after anyone who has a negative word to say about O'Bomber. Now, the Washington Post is attempting to float the idea that people are better off being laid off from their jobs...the subtext being that O'Bomber's recession is a blessing in disguise on the way to making them better people. On the other hand, the press was all over Bush before he even took the oath of office. They never let up and invented every excuse in the book...including outright lies to bash Bush. This isn't even a close call. IP: Logged |
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 2512 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 28, 2009 03:58 PM
so even you don't include FOX in the general term "press"?IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 1065 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 28, 2009 04:26 PM
Of course Fox News is part of the American Press...and it's also true Fox took their own shots at Bush. The difference is they didn't bash Bush with innuendo, suggestion, supposition, rumor and outright lies.They also didn't bash Bush when he was right...as in tax cuts across the board to get the economy moving; as in going after terrorists and keeping the pressure on them; as in not abandoning the Iraqis to the tender mercies of al-Qaeda; as in freeing 50 million people from the grip of ruthless, murderous tyrannies. Of course, the rest of the American Press...and your Socialist idols in Congress and now the White House thought all those good things were just terrible. Bush ignored them and mostly did the right things anyway.
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katatonic Knowflake Posts: 2512 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 28, 2009 10:13 PM
"innuendo, suggestion, supposition, rumor and outright lies"no, they saved that for the democrats. because we all know all democrats are goons and socialists, right? according to jwhop's american dictionary. IP: Logged |
luckycharmgirl Knowflake Posts: 3 From: England Registered: Oct 2009
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posted November 14, 2009 02:46 PM
As we, meaning all of us citizens of the world move into the Aquarian Age it is probably best to drop all party lines and realise our current political structures of left and right, liberal, conservative is actually no longer real. In many countries both sides are in bed together. We should be careful not to get sucked into the idea that Obama is going to wave a wand and shake up the political world. At the moment Obama is getting away with more because he seems to offer hope. Speaking against him is seen as not cool as this teeters on racial lines. The powers that be have us exactly where they want us. Let us be careful of not getting dupped here. IP: Logged |
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 2512 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 14, 2009 05:14 PM
i haven't noticed that people feel reticent about "speaking against obama" quite the opposite. maybe there ARE some people who expect him to wave a wand but nobody i know puts that kind of expectation on ANY politician no matter how wonderful they may seem,nor did i ever consider bush to be evil incarnate as much as i disagreed with most of what happened during his administration. and i couldn't agree more that party lines don't seem to mean much of anything any more...but i do find it creepy that i can listen to a call-in talk show and hear the same phrases and ideas being spouted by any number of people...and come here and hear the same phrases and ideas from jwhop...there is a common source obviously, and i first heard this stuff on fox years ago. corporate radio seems to run all down the same gutter. then turn the dial and get the left-hand side, and though the battle cries are different, the tone of voice remains the same. polarization is rampant and i have had my fill of it! then there is the small fact that bush was "favoured" by a large SURPLUS on arrival at the white house, which became a large DEFICIT before he left. whereas obama inherited a huge DEFICIT which may CURRENTLY look worse than ever but which, if things pan out, will be decreasing over time... so you could say he came in with pretty much everything stacked AGAINST him, while bush had quite the opposite situation. so why should they be treated equally by observers? IP: Logged | |