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pidaua
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From: Grafenwohr, Germany- but my heart is in Iraq
Registered: Apr 2009

posted November 11, 2009 04:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message
It took me awhile to post about this. What happened at Fort Hood was an act of terrorism, whether it was person or endorsed by Militant Muslims.


The ahole that did it.. MAJ Hasan was on the radar, but in our politically correct nation (at least now run by Obomber) we no longer can target or kick out idiots like Hasan.

Obomber decided to do a shout out to Joe Medicine Crow before he acknowledged the attack that occured. He called Medicine Crow a "recipient of the Medal of Honor" which he wasn't. Infact, he was the recipient of the Medal of Freedom, which Obomber personally awarded to him in August. Nice one Obomber, not only did you spend the majority of your speech on shout outs and jokes, you didn't even remember what you awarded good ole Joe with.

Now, don't get me wrong. I am American Indian and I know.. from talk on the tribal links that NO ONE thought what he did was appropriate. The POTUS can call a press conference at ANY time, he could have addressed things BEFORE the AI conference. But no.. he didn't.

So back to our Peaceful Muslim Shooter...


I think it was his OWN personal act of terrorism. In a class where he was supposed to present a medical topic of his choice, he decided on a 50 slide powerpoint presentation called "The Koranic View As it Relates to Muslims in the US Military". (actual presentation http://a.abcnews.go.com/images/Blotter/Hasan_2007.pdf)
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/suspec...ory?id=9043497

Another time, during an environmental health class he presented "Is the war on terror a war on Islam"

Finnell said the warning signs were clear to many, not just classmates. Faculty members, including many high-ranking military officers, witnessed firsthand his anti-Americanism, he said.

Finnell recalled Hasan telling his classmates and professors, "I'm a Muslim first and I hold the Shariah, the Islamic Law, before the United States Constitution."

He recalled one time when his classmates were giving presentations in an environmental health class on topics like soil and water contamination and the effects of mold. When it was Hasan's turn, he said, he got up in front of the class and began to speak about his chosen topic, "Is the War on Terror a war on Islam?"

Finnell says he raised his hand. "I asked the professor, "What does this topic have to do with environmental health?"

"When he was challenged on his views, Hasan became visibly upset. He became sweaty, he was emotional."

But despite questioning from the other students, Finnell said, the professor allowed Hasan to continue. He said Hasan's anti-American vitriol continued for two years as he worked toward his degree in public health.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,573469,00.html


To me, that is terrorism. Is it on a large scale or an attack from a group on American Soldiers? I have no idea, the investigation is still pending, but his motives have been out there for a long time.

I think others here that have majored in any health, nursing or medical major can see how insane it would be to hear someone conduct a presentation on the "Is the War on Terror a War on Islam" or "The Koranic View As it Relates to Muslims in the US Military" as being absolutely unrelated to the major or field at hand.

I am wondering.. when will others speak out? When will Muslims here, with the exception of a few that did, decry what happened?

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katatonic
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posted November 12, 2009 09:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
political correctness is one thing, mostly yeuch in my opinion, but allowing someone this blatant to not only continue - apparently he has been on the radar as a potential problem for a couple of years - but to promote him and then put him up for iraq...does this not sound OUTRIGHT STUPID? what was the guy doing in a position to carry this out?

i smell herring somewhere.

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jwhop
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From: Madeira Beach, FL USA
Registered: Apr 2009

posted November 13, 2009 02:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Pid, I've been too ticked to talk about this before.

I'm sorry, I know how this must tear your heart out to see members of your unit attacked on what should be a safe military base in the United States.

Political correctness at the highest levels of government is going to get more Americans killed.

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pire
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posted November 13, 2009 08:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message
perhaps it will show you what it feels like to be killed by "foreigners" in your OWN country.

french soldiers are involved in afghanistan but we had foreigners' invasions on our soil since we've been a nation.

that could explain why the VAST MAJORITY OF EUROPEAN'S POPULATION don't want wars like irak. sophisticated wars where we shoot from a distance and where the battlzfied is among civilians wars like this aren't noble at all. if noble can be applied to fighting, which i believe by the way

now you, especially those close to the army, know the feelings that thousands of civilians know in irak and that european civilians have known since the 20th c. fear and anger.

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katatonic
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posted November 13, 2009 11:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
maybe they kept him in in order to keep an eye on him? since he hadn't actually perpetrated any crimes yet?

still, it's not political correctness, but STUPIDITY or worse.

unfortunately being in the military does come with the price tag of being close to death and witnessing the death of those close to you. sad as that may be it is hardly outrageous. i would consider it more outrageous to expect to get through a war without losses. which seems to be the case with some people - and i am NOT talking about anyone here!

rather than focussing on the MUSLIM part of this incident perhaps we should be realising that when we make war we CAUSE death and destruction, whether it be abroad or at home.

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