Lindaland
  Global Unity 2.0
  oops! flagrant splicing or just stupid ??

Post New Topic  Post A Reply
profile | register | preferences | faq

UBBFriend: Email This Page to Someone! next newest topic | next oldest topic
Author Topic:   oops! flagrant splicing or just stupid ??
katatonic
Knowflake

Posts: 2604
From:
Registered: Apr 2009

posted November 19, 2009 04:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
For the second time in just over a week, Fox News is coming under fire for misusing old news footage. The latest flap is leading some people to charge that the cable news network is intentionally misleading its audience, while Fox claims a "production error."

Wednesday's incident occurred when Fox News host Gregg Jarrett mentioned that a Sarah Palin appearance and book signing in Grand Rapids, Michigan had a massive turnout. As footage rolled of a smiling and waving Palin amidst a throng of fans, Jarrett noted that the former Republican vice-presidential candidate is "continuing to draw huge crowds while she's promoting her brand-new book,'' adding that the images being shown were "some of the pictures just coming in to us.... The lines earlier had formed this morning."

However, the video used in the segment was from a 2008 McCain/Palin campaign rally. In response to the minor uproar that arose after clips of Jarrett's report hit the Internet, Fox senior vice-president of news Michael Clemente issued an initial statement saying, "This was a production error in which the copy editor changed a script and didn't alert the control room to update the video."

On Thursday afternoon, Fox News issued an on-air apology delivered by host Jane Skinner:

Yesterday we told you about Sarah Palin kicking off her book tour and then we spoke to Sean Hannity about an interview that he did with former Governor Palin. When introducing the segment we showed you footage of people lining up in Michigan for a book signing that evening. In the tease before the segment, the tease to commercial, we told you how those people were already lining up to meet Palin. The problem is we didn't show you the video we were actually referencing. Instead we mistakenly aired what's called "file tape" of Sarah Palin. We didn't mean to mislead anybody in that tease. It was a mistake, and for that we apologize.

The current mishap comes on the heels of a controversy sparked last week when footage from a conservative rally held over the summer was played on "Hannity" during a segment on a more recent rally. During the clip, host Sean Hannity marveled over the large turnout for a Washington, DC protest. The Daily Show later pointed out that there seemed to be some inconsistencies with the video shown on Hannity's show, namely that the atmospheric conditions seemed to vary from shot to shot. Hannity later apologized on the air for what he called "an inadvertent mistake."

Barely a week into Palin’s blitz to promote “Going Rogue,” media coverage is becoming its own story. Fox News rival MSNBC caught heat last week for using altered images of Sarah Palin on the air, for which they later apologized. On Wednesday, Yahoo! News reported Newsweek’s defense of their latest controversial cover, which Palin herself blasted as “sexist.”
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/ynews_ts988

IP: Logged

katatonic
Knowflake

Posts: 2604
From:
Registered: Apr 2009

posted November 19, 2009 04:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
the above does not include the video of the video of fox covering the sept 12 rally in DC where the news director was caught coaching and directing the crowd (not that fox has anything to do with these demos..)

IP: Logged

jwhop
Knowflake

Posts: 1080
From: Madeira Beach, FL USA
Registered: Apr 2009

posted November 19, 2009 05:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
CABLE NEWS RACE
NOV. 18, 2009

FOXNEWS HANNITY/PALIN 4,200,000
FOXNEWS O'REILLY 3,868,000
FOXNEWS BECK 2,512,000
FOXNEWS GRETA 2,383,000
FOXNEWS BAIER 2,235,000
FOXNEWS SHEP 1,980,000
MSNBC OLBERMANN 1,041,000
CNNHN GRACE 1,036,000
MSNBC MADDOW 957,000
CNN KING 835,000
MSNBC HARDBALL 625,000
CNN COOPER 611,000

IP: Logged

katatonic
Knowflake

Posts: 2604
From:
Registered: Apr 2009

posted November 20, 2009 01:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
are you trying to tell me miss sorry knickers is going to be a fox personality now? how apt!

IP: Logged

koiflower
Knowflake

Posts: 1084
From: Australia
Registered: Apr 2009

posted November 23, 2009 06:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for koiflower     Edit/Delete Message
I had the misfortune of seeing FOX while in Japan.

Please don't tell me that FOX represents what it is to be American!!

To think that show reaches the corners of the globe through cable, or otherwise - sheez.

IP: Logged

Dervish
Knowflake

Posts: 353
From:
Registered: May 2009

posted November 23, 2009 10:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dervish     Edit/Delete Message
It's complicated to explain.

First, I think the majority of people are burned out on politics. To us (at least I still vote, though I keep thinking it's an epic waste of time), we see the bumper sticker slogans, juvenile insults (even when they have to KNOW that it's gonna bite them on the butt, they can't seem to stop themselves), over the top caricatures, junk science produced by both (typically quackery & bad environmental science on the Left, and Biblical superstitions on the Right) that makes those who support science want to scream (and they're so righteous over their ignorance!), both liberals & conservatives who agree on falsehoods (like Obama being a pacifist) just so they can argue with each other over it, unrelenting & shameless hypocrisy of BOTH major sides and simply turn away from it in disgust (and people like me laugh as MAD magazine does well deserved mockeries of both). Thus FOX News does not represent most Americans. Neither does CNN, MSNBC, etc. In fact, this probably sums up the average American's attitude more than any sold out faux news agency:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnPiw0917W8

Heck, compare that song (originally from South Park) to a poem I made myself:

Dirty Pool

There exists an ideological, fundamentalist paranoid facade
Hating either "Bushaphobes" or "The Anti-Clinton Brigade"
Always warning us that the other side is lying, cheating, and stealing
There's just no end to the evil, stupidity, and double dealing.

Exposing the corruption and lies in books and programs galore
But when the favor is returned, it's a wacko conspiracy to be sure
Like Freddy v. Jason, neither side seems able to die
Their words are a web, and your mind is the fly

The motto of both can be summed up as "The sky is falling!"
So if you don't hate children, then answer when The Party comes calling
But how can they feel our pain
When our losses become their gain?
It just doesn't mater which side we choose
The merry-go-round doesn't stop, and we all lose.

And a side will rant how corruption and evil is rampant until their faction ascends
Why are the former abuses, now made worse, suddenly fine once their reign begins?
And why does a ranting person get worked up over mere figureheads of the "other" Party, like Bush and Gore?
But when it's time to "demand accountability" of their own Party, the morals and ethics go out the door?
While politicians, particularly of the 2 parties, are hypocrites pretending to live under a steeple
Sadly I have come to see that such as these are the appropriate representatives of The People.

As it is, most major news outlet have completely sold out to base political causes, and it creates vast ignorance in those who still haven't figured out that they're being conned. Examples include...

The ignorance of liberals:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXZRBJYX__E

The ignorance of those who voted for Obama (which isn't limited strictly to liberals, even some conservatives voted for him):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mm1KOBMg1Y8

The ignorance of conservatives:

XXX

Oh, dang, can't find the vid, and I'm NOT about to sift through minutes of that BS in hopes of finding one like it. The one I can't find has like tea party people protesting the ideas of czars when they didn't have a problem when Reagan instituted them and have been operating under the POTUS since then (and they didn't know that), think Medicare is private rather than socialized, etc. Basically as bad as the liberals for sheer ignorance, and just as the liberals cite CNN & MSNBC, those conservatives cited FOX.

It's too bad you can't sue for media malpractice in this country. (Actually, FOX was sued for that, but the courts agreed with FOX that they can lie if they want. And FOX never denied that it lied, only arguing that it was their right to do so.)

IMPORTANT: I'm NOT saying everyone of the above is ignorant and mind controlled by the media, but I AM saying that the MAJORITY of them are, and in large part because of fake news & tabloid presses, which range from CNN to MSNBC to FOX.

FOX, however, is more blatant (usually) than most other stations. That's probably because it's controlled by Murdoch, the king of trash journalism long before he became one of the richest in the world following in the steps of Barnum.

That all said, FOX is very popular among a depressing number of people. I personally didn't realize how epic bad & toxic it was until I had it shoved down my throat at a fitness center I used to go to--in fact, I quit in part because I was forced to listen to that emotional garbage & glurge & even hysteria. Though that said, I think they just like fear mongering & hysteria, because during the swine flu hysteria, they had any channel on that was as tabloid as FOX as they tried to panic the masses to glue them to their screen, not just FOX. So maybe it's not that they sympathize with FOX so much as they just like the emotional roller coaster? I don't know.

And THAT said, those who drink FOX's kool aid are generally right about the rest of the media being biased & sold out to corrupt political factions (though they need to accept that so is FOX). Hmm, a good cartoon I saw that describes it very well:
http://homepage.mac.com/rlmorel/.Public/**** .gif

Ok, board censored out "**** " so it won't take you there. It's a pic of many naked women in bed (each branded, like with "CNN" "New York Times," etc) with a donkey, and the donkey and naked women look toward the elephant in the other bed at a naked woman branded with "Fox" who is lying with the elephant and yell, "**** !"

Anyway, hope that explains it. In a nutshell, no, FOX News does not represent America, yet it does represent a large faction within America. And they're really not that much (if any) worse than the rest of the media in the USA, they're just more obvious about it.

IP: Logged

katatonic
Knowflake

Posts: 2604
From:
Registered: Apr 2009

posted November 24, 2009 12:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
LOVE the penn & teller bit, thanks!!

and the poem too.

i listened to fox for a brief period when i was driving for extra income...a friend of mine had turned me on to george noory (late night fox show) and she was also taken with michael savage (bleuch!)...during that period i caught shows by savage, dr laura, hannity, barbara simmons...discovered that savage and hannity and schlessinger gave me headaches and i found myself becoming depressed - both these symptoms are highly unusual for me - and i turned fox off for good. barbara simmons is a pretty intelligent lady, whose politics i don't love but she is not SHOVING them down anyone's throat, but looking at issues. i can stomach her, but i don't go looking for her!

unfortunately fox's marketting ploys have been successful at getting it into a lot of markets and a lot of people are saturated with the phrases, the vitriol, the general message...the only remedy for me is to continue to speak reason and take care of my own business. voting locally carries more weight than nationally as a rule. the bigger players are generally bought men (women) and how can you trust them?

and i certainly don't trust video or photo(shop) evidence any more...!see jwhop's pic of obama bowing on pg 2 of the "BOW" thread for an example of their wonderful accuracy... http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum26/HTML/000252-2.html

IP: Logged

All times are Eastern Standard Time

next newest topic | next oldest topic

Administrative Options: Close Topic | Archive/Move | Delete Topic
Post New Topic  Post A Reply
Hop to:

Contact Us | Linda-Goodman.com

Copyright © 2008

Powered by Infopop www.infopop.com © 2000
Ultimate Bulletin Board 5.46a