posted December 30, 2009 02:07 AM         

Before anyone just does a kneejerk dismissal of this as "right wing propaganda," you should take a close look at who says it and what exactly is being said:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rose-ann-demoro/an-inglorious-end-to-the_b_400842.html

Btw, it should be pointed out that covering 30 million--which I'm sure is very limited in what is actually covered--is about the population of 3 large cities (ie, a very small percentage).

But I suppose some people are so desperate to live in Star Trek that they'll overlook the brutal corruption & exploitation and keep faith that the philosopher kings will come along and wave their wand and straighten it all out and then we'll all, master and servants, dance with & serve each other in perfect love & trust like loving parents & children...ok, end snarkiness. Just...this is BAD. I figured that they weren't gonna fix it, but I was wrong on just how much worse they were going to make it.

Why do people keep saying I'm too cynical when over & over again I keep finding out I'm not cynical enough?

And reminded by the "obligation" (as opposed to "right") to health care now mandated by the government, where those without coverage now face fines for not getting what they can't afford anyway (and after putting people on the streets that way, which will increase health risks & costs, the government will again be called on to solve the very problem they created and make it even worse), I was reminded of something Idries Shah came up with:

"A poor man said to a rich one: 'All my money goes on food.'

posted December 30, 2009 09:50 AM         

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I was cynical about it from the beginning, but apparently I wasn't cynical enough.

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Echoes what I have ranted for months to pretty much everyone in my periphery. No, I have not been cynical enough either.

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For those who counsel us to accept the steady stream of concessions to the obstructionists and the health care industry with the anticipation that the legislation will be improved in the House-Senate conference process, or in future years, the experience of this year suggests a very different outcome.
As Jean Ross, NNU co-president noted, "the bill seems more likely to be eroded, not improved, in future years due to the unchecked influence of the health care industry lobbyists….

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and from this link- http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=B41E9106-18FE-70B2-A8C96E940F1F48D1

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“We’ve never had as good a year,” said one lobbyist whose shop deals mostly with financial services and health care issues. “It’s been a tremendously busy year, and it’s going to keep getting that way,” the lobbyist said, noting that both health care and financial reform will remain active as congressional action moves from drafting legislation to implementation to the inevitable fixes...

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Robin Williams, in his new standup show on HBO recently said [paraphrase] that members of congress should wear logos for sponsors like NASCAR so voters can see clearly how, and by whom salaries are augmented.

Our government is not paid for by voters, and their taxes...it is paid for by big business. Corporate sponsorship of elected officials is nothing new. On the positive side we can view more clearly now just who has "we the people" best interest's at heart. And the answer would be remarkably few.

Howard Dean advised that no rep in good conscious should vote yea for either
version of the Bill. I agree with him.

This is not polarized right or left. Both sides have demonstrated quite clearly that their own self interest is what is important.

posted December 31, 2009 02:58 PM         

they're still duking it out. what happened to that amendment giving us access to meds from canada where they are infinitely cheaper?

have to laugh at the mess the obstructionists have turned this into...currently i don't have enough money to even consider insurance so personally it is not an issue, but the whole thing stinks. not being rammed down anyone's throat in july though, so maybe SOMEONE is happy!!

i hope they ARE happy since the situation currently is looking even worse than they were "worried" about. except it was never about the constitution or the public health, just about poking the "other side" in the eye.