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juniperb
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posted September 02, 2010 08:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message
How Barack Obama Became Mr. Unpopular.

I found the article quite fair and reflects what I hear as the "general climate of Obama & Washingtons own"

And yes, I choose this paragraph to support jwhops post but will add a paragraph for the libbys as well

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This shift in perception - from Obama as political savior to Obama as creature of Washington - can be seen elsewhere. When Obama arrived in office in January '09, his Gallup approval rating stood at 68%, a high for a newly elected leader not seen since John Kennedy in 1961. Today Obama's job approval has been hovering in the mid-40s, which means that at least 1 in 4 Americans has changed his or her mind. The plunge has been particularly dramatic among independents, whites and those under age 30. With midterm elections just nine weeks off, instead of the generational transformation some Democrats predicted after 2008, the President's party teeters on the brink of a broad setback in November, including the possible loss of both houses of Congress. By a 10-point margin, people say they will vote for Republicans over Democrats in Congress, the largest such gap ever recorded by Gallup.

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White House aides explain this change as a largely inevitable reflection of the cycles of history. Midterms are almost always bad for first-term Presidents, and worse in hard times. "The public is rightly frustrated and angry with the economy," says Dan Pfeiffer, Obama's communications director, explaining the White House line. "There is no small tactical shift we could have made at any point that would have solved that problem." In more confiding moments, aides admit that the peak of Obama's popularity may have been inflated, a fleeting result of elation at the prospect of change and national pride in electing the first African-American President. As one White House aide puts it, "It was sort of fake."

Guess we`ll wait for Nov and election results ey

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katatonic
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posted September 02, 2010 11:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
as i said in late 2008, the economy was going to tank no matter who won the election in november. and the electee's popularity was sure to take a beating.

and as i have also said numerous times, obama is only the last in a long line of presidents who have had the opposition voted into washington after election. reagan and bush being among them.

i find it laughable however that anyone would take seriously the people who, having been ecstatic at the chance to vote against everything bush stood for, and desperate to get him out, would now be saying they miss the good ole boy. give me a break!

has no one here ever heard the phrase "the grass is greener"? are we going to get our knickers in a twist that people just seem to love jumping from the pot into the frying pan and then the fire? sorry bout all the cliches, but this is a very cliched situation which indicates nothing except times are hard (relatively speaking) and the party in power takes the flak.

the conservatives should be considering themselves lucky they lost the last one. but careful who you push into office, guys, the same thing happens to most candidates who are hyped too much...

and when people find out that sarah palin is not only russian-born but related to FDR, well, you can imagine what will happen to HER manufactured heroine status.

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juniperb
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posted September 02, 2010 06:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message
I`m assuming you arn`t replying to the article I posted but rather something else?

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katatonic
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posted September 02, 2010 06:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
you assume right juni...i was responding to the topic in general and the repeated assertion that obama is the most abysmal failure we've ever seen in the white house.

and that this coming november is going to be a revolution when seats change in the legislature. it's hype and more hype designed to dishearten the people who aren't on their bandwagon.

as your article reminds the reader, reagan and clinton were both in similiar positions at this point in their terms...though the economy was not such a huge mess when clinton was in, at the first midterm election of reagan's presidency the unemployment rate was .... 10.8% eerily close to what we're looking at now. had he changed his course for popular approval no one would give him credit now for things picking up, would they?

so a) obama's ratings are NOT the worst ever and b) the economy is not the worst ever either!

yes things are bad and he is suffering in the popularity stakes but the sky isn't falling yet!!

ps. i think the article is pretty fair too!

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posted September 02, 2010 11:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
Good article Juni.

As your article stated, 10 points is the biggest spread in the generic ballot ever recorded by Gallup.

That means a lot of demoscats are going to have to look for a real job after November 2nd. Some Republican RINOS are going to be out of work too for enabling the Socialists comrades in the Congress. Some have already been defeated in their primary races and more will be.

Expected gains in the House range from 47 to 75 seats going from demoscts to Republicans. Expected gains in the Senate range from 7 to 12 seats going to Republicans.

It's almost certain Nancy Pee-Lousy is not going to be Speaker of the House in the next Congress and Harry Reid is going to be extremely lucky if he manages to hold on to his Senate seat in Nevada.

American voters are against almost everything the O'Bomber/Pee-Lousy/Reid wrecking crew has done in the last Congress and demoscats are going to pay the price for marching off the cliff in lockstep for these loons.

demoscats have been instructed by political advisors to not talk about health care when they're campaigning. These idiots think that if they don't talk about O'BomberCare which almost 60% of Americans want repealed...the poor little dumb voters will forget all about how these demoscats crammed the bill down the throats of Americans.

Fat chance.

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posted September 03, 2010 09:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message
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you assume right juni...i was responding to the topic in general and the repeated assertion that obama is the most abysmal failure we've ever seen in the white house.

I see kat, thanks for the explaination.
I was more focused on the rating and the reasons for it.
I don`t think Obama is the most abysmal failure in the White House but I do think the he & admin rates right up there.

But you know, I must add that I sincerely believe all is as it should be. History is playing it`s self out. Rather one calls it karma or add your own word here, all is a cumulation of all past endeavors, thoughts and beliefs.
I am very disatisfied w/the admin but am at Peace knowing this too will pass.
Hi jwhop

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katatonic
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posted September 03, 2010 10:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
yes we are at a turning point. whether we have to go through the disaster scenario before we get to the other side is debatable. as i said, the republicans should congratulate themselves for losing the national elections...in fact i often think they put sarah palin in just to assure that!!

but i don't think the end always justifies the means, or that it makes sense to BECOME what you THINK the enemy is for the sake of beating him; even if you succeed, you lose in that game.

the world is changing. people are losing their jobs but it's not all down to bad economy. as i've said before a lot of people are losing to AUTOMATION of their jobs, not to the failure of their companies. this small fact is overlooked because THERE"S NO POLITICAL CAPITAL to be gained by pointing it out...

i just find hysteria distasteful i guess. and unnecessary. but if the right wants to turn into what they profess to hate i guess that is their privilege!

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posted September 08, 2010 08:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
So, the minus 10 rating in the Gallup Poll wasn't a fluke.

Now, Rasmussen is reporting a minus 12 in the Generic Congressional Ballot poll.

demoscats don't want to be seen with O'Bomber, don't want to talk about O'Bombercare, many are running television ads which don't even identify them as demoscats ; but the time to think about the consequences of marching in lockstep with O'Bomber, O'Pee-Lousy and O'Reid...was before they took all those votes in defiance of the voting public.

Generic Congressional Ballot
Generic Congressional Ballot: Republicans 48%, Democrats 36%
Monday, September 06, 2010

A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 48% of Likely Voters would vote for their district's Republican congressional candidate, while 36% would opt for his or her Democratic opponent. The survey data was collected on the seven days ending Sunday, September 5, 2010.

This matches the largest advantage ever measured for the Republicans. Three weeks ago, the GOP also held a 12-point lead.

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katatonic
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posted September 08, 2010 03:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
and once again, LIKELY VOTERS means, to rasmussen, those who do not support obama...so the poll is B-O-G-U-S....for some reason that doesn't seem to bother you, does it jwhop? it's so easy when you just rule out everyone who doesn't agree with your point of view!

the real poll result is ...

"among those who would not vote for obama, his popularity has plummetted". ok now i am convinced. NOT.

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posted September 27, 2010 03:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
Battleground Poll

Only 38% say O'Bomber deserves a 2nd term.

Poll: Rocky road seen ahead for Obama

Only 38 percent of respondents to a poll said Barack Obama deserves to be reelected
By JIM VANDEHEI & CHARLES MAHTESIAN | 9/26/10 10:53 PM EDT

A significant majority of voters are considering voting against President Barack Obama in the 2012 election, expressing sour views of his new health care law and deep skepticism about his ability to create jobs and grow the sluggish economy, according to the latest POLITICO / George Washington University Battleground Poll.

Only 38 percent of respondents said Obama deserves to be reelected, even though a majority of voters hold a favorable view of him on a personal level. Forty-four percent said they will vote to oust him, and 13 percent said they will consider voting for someone else.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0910/42737.html

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posted September 28, 2010 08:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
and another source says MOST do not consider the economy his fault, but his inheritance. they are not saying they will vote for him, but they are more reasonable than some polls would have us believe around here.

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2010/09/28/5194534- majority-believes-obama-isnt-responsible-for-economy?GT1=43001

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posted October 01, 2010 12:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
48% Blame Obama for Bad Economy, 47% Blame Bush
Monday, August 02, 2010

For the first time since President Obama took office, voters see his policies as equally to blame with those of President George W. Bush for the country’s current economic problems.

A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 48% of Likely U.S. Voters now think Obama’s policies are to blame for the continuing bad economy, up three points from last month. Forty-seven percent (47%) say the recession that began under Bush is at fault.

With voters across the country expressing stronger belief that the economy is getting worse rather than better, these new findings spell potential bad news for Democratic candidates this fall. The president is already planning to limit his campaign appearances with candidates because of potential voter backlash.

In June and last October, 45% blamed Obama’s policies for the country’s ongoing economic woes, the previous high finding on this question. The number who blame Bush is down from 62% in May 2009 when Rasmussen Reports first began tracking the question regularly. Only 27% faulted Obama at that time.

As is often the case, Mainstream voters and the Political Class have wholly different viewpoints on this question. While 61% of Mainstream voters now blame Obama’s policies, 87% of the Political Class say the bad economy is due to the recession that began under Bush......
www.rasmussenreports.com

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posted October 01, 2010 12:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AbsintheDragonfly     Edit/Delete Message
Well I personally Blame Mr. Giggles the Hampster. If he wasn't so worried about his nuts...where could we be now as a nation?!?

Just LOOK at him!!! You can tell he's plotting the takeover of the world!

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