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jwhop
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posted March 25, 2010 09:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
There is absolutely no proof of any incident...in spite of video cameras and microphones all over the rally which captured the actual progression of these members of the Congressional Progressive Caucus as they made their way through the crowd on their way to the Capitol steps.

Further, they've refused to make themselves available to give specifics and answer questions about what actually happened.

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posted March 25, 2010 05:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iNzNTxkoXXj-xOcwrAcI2QSXKupwD9EL8FHG2

FBI investigating threats to Democrats
By JIM ABRAMS (AP) – 1 day ago

WASHINGTON — The FBI is investigating threats against lawmakers stemming from intense opposition to the health care overhaul law.

House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer says more than 10 Democratic lawmakers have reported incidents. Hoyer adds that the FBI and Capitol Police briefed Democrats on how to handle perceived security threats.

The FBI says that all threats and incidents directed against members of Congress are taken seriously and are being investigated by the FBI. The bureau's Washington field office issued the statement.

The FBI statement added that U.S. Capitol Police and other law enforcement agencies also are investigating to identify and bring to justice those responsible.

THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. Check back soon for further information. AP's earlier story is below.

WASHINGTON (AP) — House Democratic leaders on Wednesday said they are concerned about the personal safety of lawmakers because of threats linked to intense opposition to the health care overhaul law.

House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md., said the FBI and Capitol Police briefed Democrats on how to handle perceived security threats and that those who feel they are at risk will be "getting attention from the proper authorities."

Hoyer said more than 10 Democratic lawmakers have reported incidents, but he did not whether any are now receiving added security. Normally only those in leadership positions have personal security guards.

Protests swirled around the Capitol during debate on the health care overhaul last weekend. Protesters hurled racial slurs at several black lawmakers and one protester spat at a black lawmaker.

Rep. Jim Clyburn of South Carolina, the Democratic whip and a senior member of the Congressional Black Caucus, said he has vivid memories of history and that the scene on the street Saturday was "very reminiscent of our history."

Bricks were thrown through windows at two Democratic Party offices in western New York, including a district office of Rep. Louise Slaughter, who played a key role in getting the health care bill through the House.

The Tucson, Ariz., congressional office of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords was also vandalized a few hours after the House vote.

Hoyer said there were incidents such as people yelling that Democratic lawmakers should be put on firing lines and posters with the faces of lawmakers in the crosshairs of a target.

While not directly criticizing Republicans, Hoyer said that "any show of appreciation for such actions encourages such action."

Several Republicans stood on the second-floor Speaker's Balcony overlooking the West Front of the Capitol cheering on the protesters and waving signs such as "Kill the bill."

Hoyer said Democrats were talking to the Republican leadership and hoped to come up with a united front on the security issue.

House Republican leader John Boehner of Ohio said in a statement that while many Americans are angry over passage of the health care bill, "violence and threats are unacceptable.

"That's not the American way," Boehner said. "We need to take that anger and channel it into positive change."

Copyright © 2010 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.

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posted March 31, 2010 08:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
So, demoscats are still flogging the unstory of tea party members calling black congressional members the "n" word and spitting on one.

I understand their angst. Anything to get the focus of what they've done by passing the worst piece of legislation in US history over the objections of the American people...out of the headlines and they think...out of the minds of Americans.

So now, they're calling for civility, peace and harmony and bi-partisanship.

Let's take a little stroll down memory lane, shall we?

Where were these same leftist morons when this was going on?

Indeed, where were leftist members here when pictures like these were posted on this forum?

I don't recall any leftists here or in the Congress or in the press urging restraint. Indeed, it was high fives all around.

So, leftists can take their calls for civility, peace and harmony and bi-partisanship and stuff them where the sun don't shine.


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posted March 31, 2010 08:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message


Are we having fun yet?

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posted April 01, 2010 04:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
I guess it's not so much fun when leftist noses are rubbed in their own colossal hypocrisy.

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posted April 01, 2010 05:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
i guess because there are stupid people on both/all sides that makes it perfectly okay for people to ramp up the stupidity. NOT...

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posted April 01, 2010 05:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
I guess it's not so much fun when leftist noses are rubbed in their own colossal hypocrisy.

Yeah, I think that's an ironic statement. Republicans traditionally like to believe that they're not these outrageous, hippie activists...
Turns out they are really every bit as bad as Democratic protesters.

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posted April 13, 2010 01:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
Wrong video of health protest spurs N-word feud
By JESSE WASHINGTON, AP National Writer Jesse Washington, Ap National Writer – 40 mins ago

Three Democratic congressmen — all black — say they heard racial slurs as they walked through thousands of angry protesters outside the U.S. Capitol. A white lawmaker says he heard the epithets too. Conservative activists say the lawmakers are lying.

What does the video show? Not much. Indeed, new interviews show that a much-viewed YouTube recording cited as evidence by conservatives was actually shot well after the time in question.

It was March 20, near the end of the bitter health care debate, when Reps. John Lewis, Andre Carson and Emanuel Cleaver say that some demonstrators, many of them tea party activists, yelled the N-word as the congressmen walked from House office buildings to the Capitol.

Stung by the charges of racism, conservatives and tea party activists insist it never happened. And one of them is offering big money if anyone can prove it did.

With so many media and citizen cameras at the demonstration, any epithets would have been caught on tape, says Andrew Breitbart. He's the web entrepreneur who released the video of ACORN workers counseling actors posing as a pimp and prostitute, and has pledged $100,000 to the United Negro College Fund if anyone provides proof of the epithets.

"It didn't happen," said Breitbart, who wasn't there. "This is 2010. Even a racist is media-savvy enough not to yell the N-word."

The dispute pits the lawmakers — one of them, Lewis, is a leader and survivor of 1960s civil rights battles — against conservatives determined to counter claims of racism within the predominantly white and middle-aged tea party movement. The criticism has proven a distraction to a nascent movement pushing a unified message of fiscal conservatism and limited government.

The issue still echoes in the media and blogosphere.

"Listen, I was there," Carson, D-Ind., said in an interview. "In many regards I think (the challenges are) a veiled attempt to justify actions that are simply unjustifiable. I think we need to move toward a dialogue that explores why this kind of divisive and reprehensible language is still making it into our political debate."

A fourth Democrat, Rep. Heath Shuler of North Carolina, who is white, backed up his colleagues, telling the Hendersonville (N.C.) Times-News that he heard the slurs.

A reconstruction of the events shows that the conservative challenges largely sprang from a mislabeled video that was shot later in the day.

Breitbart posted two columns on his Web site saying the claims were fabricated. Both led with a 48-second YouTube video showing Lewis, Carson, other Congressional Black Caucus members and staffers leaving the Capitol. Some of the group were videotaping the booing crowd.

Breitbart asked why the epithet was not captured by the black lawmakers' cameras, and why nobody reacted as if they had heard the slur. He also questioned whether the epithets could have been shouted by liberals planted in the crowd.

But the 48-second video was shot as the group was leaving the Capitol — at least one hour after Lewis, D-Ga., and Carson walked to the Capitol, which is when they said the slurs were used.

Questioned about using a video on his Web site from the wrong moment, Breitbart stood by his claim that the lawmakers were lying.

"I'm not saying the video was conclusive proof," he said.

Lewis declined to discuss the issue with The Associated Press. Asked whether the epithet was used, his spokeswoman said: "Yes. Congressman Lewis did hear the N-word yelled from the crowd."

Carson described leaving the Cannon House Office Building for votes and bumping into Lewis in the elevator. They chose to walk outside to the Capitol, rather than through the underground tunnels.

Conservatives say Democrats staged a march through a hostile crowd to instigate a reaction. Carson said there was no such plan: It was just the first day of spring.

Soon after leaving Cannon, "I hear someone say it," said Carson, a former police officer. "You see one or two tea party people kind of look at him, and then you hear it again as we're walking. Then we walk across (Independence Avenue), and that's when it starts getting deeper."

Carson said he heard it coming from different places in the crowd. "You heard it in spurts, in the midst of 'Kill the bill. Kill the bill.'"

"One guy, I remember he just rattled it off several times. Then John looks at me and says, 'You know, this reminds me of a different time.'"

Cleaver, D-Mo., was walking a distance behind Carson and Lewis. He says he heard the epithet and was spit on. Capitol police handcuffed a man after Cleaver said he was spit on, but Cleaver told reporters that he did not want to press charges. No arrests were made. The moment was captured on video; debate continues over whether it shows any spitting.

In a separate case, Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., who is gay, said he was called "faggot."

On Fox News, Bill O'Reilly discussed the issue on four of his shows, beginning March 22. The first segment led with clips from the 48-second video and featured Dana Loesch, a radio talk-show host who accused the congressmen of fabricating their claims.

O'Reilly said, "Just because it's not on tape doesn't mean it's fabricated." A spokeswoman said O'Reilly thinks that something happened, but is not sure exactly what.

A few days later, Rep. Michele Bachmann, R-Minn., told an audience, "No witness saw it, it's not on camera, it's not on audio."

Only 22 seconds of video have emerged from the time in question, filmed by Lee Fang of the liberal American Progress think tank. His YouTube clip — labeled as being filmed about five minutes after the crowd rushed Lewis and Carson — has been posted by Breitbart and dozens of blogs accusing Democrats of lying.

Fang told the AP he was standing "pretty far away" across Independence Avenue from the Cannon building when he saw the crowd erupt, so he hurried over. Fang did not hear the epithet, but he said he believes it was used. "The hatred was palpable," he said.

Some conservatives insist the absence of racial epithets on Fang's video and the 48-second clip show there was no hate.

"If it didn't happen on YouTube," says a regretful Fang, "it didn't happen at all."

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Jesse Washington covers race for The Associated Press. He is reachable at jwashington(at)ap.org or http://www.twitter.com/jessewashington.

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posted April 13, 2010 01:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
now if there had been someone standing there with a camera to PROVE it had happened, i would probably be convinced it WAS a plant...but innocent till proven guilty otherwise water under the bridge and a warning to be vigilant in future...

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posted April 13, 2010 02:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
It didn't happen.

No one who is credible heard racial slurs or saw any spitting.

No audio caught any racial slurring. No video caught any spitting.

What video did capture were a lot of people yelling "Kill The Bill" as Cleaver et.al walked by. In fact, the one person who got Cleaver's attention to the point he stopped, was yelling "Kill The Bill" through cupped hands...and you can actually see his body move in rhythm with the words..."Kill The Bill".

Racists are forever accusing others of what they do themselves. It's not lost on knowledgeable people that all these loons are members of the Congressional Progressive Caucus to whom lies serve ideological purposes. To Progressives, whatever the public can be made to believe...is the truth.

To date, no one has stepped forward to claim that $100,000 reward by offering actual proof. With thousands of video cameras there, including cell phone cameras, there should be plenty of proof...unless it's all a lie and never happened....which it is. A lie to take the focus off demoscats who defied and betrayed their constituents by voting for the worst piece of legislation in US history.

But, to the dismay of back stabbing demoscats who voted for this piece of trash, the focus is still on their betrayal and it will remain so right through the coming election.

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