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listenstotrees
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posted April 09, 2010 12:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for listenstotrees     Edit/Delete Message
Ramsey Clark

Ramsey Clark chosen to head commission
to investigate Bush crimes

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We have exciting news to report.

On April 3, at a meeting of over 150 lawyers, legal scholars and human rights campaigners, Ramsey Clark, founder of Indict Bush Now, was chosen to be the chairperson of an international campaign to investigate war crimes committed by officials from the Bush administration.

Representatives at the meeting held in Beirut, Lebanon, came from all over the world. The campaign will investigate the lies, deceit and manipulation leading up to the Iraq war; the conduct of the war itself against an essentially defenseless country; and the horrors of the continued occupation.

Lawyers and judges in several countries are exploring prosecution.

Ramsey Clark emphasized that it is the imperative responsibility of the American people to relentlessly pursue this investigation, and to seek prosecution and indictment inside of the United States.

The culture of criminal conduct started at the top in the White House itself and seeped far down the chain of command. The White House is responsible for these crimes—from the hideous torture scenes at Abu Ghraib prison to the shockingly grotesque, cold-blooded murder of innocent civilians by U.S. helicopter pilots in Baghdad in 2007, as shown in a video released this week.

The chilling video came to light because two of the killed Iraqis happened to be Reuters journalists, and because of the heroic effort of a whistleblower inside the Pentagon who leaked the video posted by WikiLeaks. The Pentagon undoubtedly has hundreds or thousands of similar videos that are kept under lock and key.

Prosecuting only a few low-level people would be a calculated effort to deflect away from those in high places who are ultimately responsible.

Ramsey Clark made the point that all the war crimes and crimes against humanity flow from the commission of the most supreme crimes which he identified as the Crimes against Peace. This was the finding at the Nuremberg trial, and it is enshrined in the Nuremberg Principles.

This now galvanized international movement will also conduct independent inquiries in several countries to review the conduct of Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, Rove, Yoo and other Bush-era officials.

We want to thank you and the hundreds of thousands of people who are unflagging in their pursuit of justice and government accountability. People around the world—including right here in the U.S.—are encouraged by these efforts. This is a struggle that will be defining not only for this but for future generations. The outcome will send a message to current and future leaders that criminal conduct will never be tolerated or condoned.

Please show your continuing support for this effort by making an urgently needed donation.
From all of us at IndictBushNow http://www.impeachbush.org/site/News2/1536381051?page=NewsArticle&id=5431&news_iv_c trl=1281
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posted April 10, 2010 03:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for listenstotrees     Edit/Delete Message

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katatonic
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posted April 10, 2010 04:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
yes the water's about to get muddy and then muddier still methinks...

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posted April 10, 2010 04:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
yes the water's about to get muddy and then muddier still methinks...

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posted April 10, 2010 10:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
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I want the truth!...listenstotrees

Really LTT? Be careful what you wish for. Someone is likely to give it to you.

Ramsey Clark is a hardcore communist twit. Ramsey Clark was the moving energy behind the communist front organization..International A.N.S.W.E.R. which is directed and controlled by the Workers World Party. Workers World Party is a collection of hardcore communist morons of the Stalinist variety with their lips firmly attached to the ass of that little communist madman Kim Jong Ill of North Korea.
Their main love interest, Joseph Stalin, the genocidal communist dictator, murderer of about 100,000,000 citizens of the defunct Soviet Union is dead.

INTERNATIONAL ANSWER (IA)
Anti-war front group for the Marxist-Leninist Workers World Party
A major organizer of the massive anti-Iraq war rallies of 2002 and 2003
Opposes embargo against Communist Cuba
Supports convicted cop-killer Mumia Abu-Jamal

International ANSWER (an acronym for "Act Now to Stop War and End Racism") is run by Ramsey Clark's International Action Center, which is staffed by members of the Marxist-Leninist Workers World Party (WWP). http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=6147

As a practical matter, this little get together of communist fanatics, jihadists and America haters in general, is going no where.
http://www.impeachbush.org/site/News2/1536381051?page=NewsArticle&id=5431&news_iv_c trl=1281

These morons have all the legal and moral authority of neighborhood morons getting together to try to indict their neighbor for murder for mowing his grass and pruning his shurbs.

Well LTT, you did say you "want the truth".

But LTT, is that really true?

Let's find out how much truth you can stand.

Ramsey Clark:

Former U.S. Attorney General
Acted as counsel for North Vietnamese Communists and Iran’s Islamic dictatorship
Founder of International Action Center, which is staffed by members of the Workers World Party, a Marxist-Leninist vanguard

William Ramsey Clark was born December 18, 1927 in Dallas, Texas. His father was Tom C. Clark, who was a United States Attorney General and a Justice of the Supreme Court.

Ramsey Clark served in the U.S. Marine Corps in 1945 and 1946, then earned a Bachelor’s Degree from the University of Texas at Austin in 1949, and thereafter a Master’s Degree as well as a J.D. from the University of Chicago.

During the presidential administrations of John F. Kennedy and then Lyndon Johnson, Clark served as Assistant Attorney General of the Lands Division from 1961-65; Deputy Attorney General from 1965-67; and finally U.S. Attorney General from 1967-69. Throughout his tenure as Attorney General, Clark focused on social issues and civil rights. He set up the first federal narcotics addict-treatment unit. He restructured federal prisons to stress the importance of rehabilitation, early release, education, and job training rather than punishment. And he was the first Attorney General to call for the elimination of the death penalty.

After his years in the Justice Department, Clark worked as a law professor and became a prominent figure in the anti-Vietnam War movement. In 1974 he was the Democratic Party’s candidate for a U.S. Senate seat representing New York, but lost to Republican Jacob Javits. In 1976 Clark again sought the Democratic nomination for U.S. Senate but was defeated by Daniel Patrick Moynihan.

For decades, Clark has consistently condemned American foreign policy and its related military campaigns, from the Vietnam War, to the Iraq War, to the broader War on Terror. Conversely, he has backed myriad groups, governments, and individuals with rabidly anti-American, and even terrorist, agendas. Whatever the nature of any conflict, Clark invariably sides with America’s adversary:
During the Vietnam War, Clark traveled to Hanoi to show solidarity with the North Vietnamese who were torturing and murdering American POWs; he exhorted the Vietcong to continue their brave fight, then returned to the U.S. and told Congress that American prisoners were being treated very well.

Clark traveled to France to meet with Ayatollah Khomeini in January 1979. Soon thereafter, while the foot soldiers of Khomeini’s revolution held 52 Americans hostage in Iran from November 1979 through January 1981, Clark went to Tehran to publicly denounce the “Crimes of America” for all the world to hear.

After the U.S. bombed terrorist training facilities in Libya in April 1986, Clark made his way to Tripoli to show support for President Muammar Qadhafi.

Clark defended PLO leaders when they were sued by the family of Leon Klinghoffer, the wheelchair-bound American Jew murdered by Palestinian terrorists aboard the cruise ship Achille Lauro in 1986.

Clark went to Iraq to consult with Saddam Hussein in 1990, while the U.S. geared up for a military operation to drive the dictator’s invading forces out of Kuwait.

In May 1991 Clark filed a complaint with the International War Crimes Tribunal, charging President George H.W. Bush and members of his Cabinet with “crimes against peace, war crimes, [and] crimes against humanity.”

Clark visited Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic to defend him against charges of genocide (of ethnic Albanians in Kosovo), and to condemn American imperialism. He also defended former Milosevic henchman Radovan Karadzic.

Clark defended the Islamist terrorists who carried out the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, characterizing their prosecution as the charade of a racist justice system. To this day, he continues to defend Sheikh Omar Abdel Rahman, mastermind of the 1993 bombing and leader of the Islamic Group, an Egypt-based terrorist organization with close links to Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda network.

Clark was a member of the legal defense team (whose members earned a combined $7 million of U.S. taxpayer money) that defended Mohamed Rashed Daoud Al-'Owhali, Khalfan Khamis Mohamed, Mohamed Sadeek Odeh, and Wadih El-Hage -- the four men who helped orchestrate the 1998 bombings of U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, which killed a total of 224 people. The two defendants who faced the death penalty were spared by a minority-dominated jury that was swayed by Clark's assertion that that no member of a racial minority -- African-American, Arab, or anyone else -- could get a fair trial in the United States. Clark also blamed the 1991 Gulf War and the subsequent United Nations sanctions against Iraq for having caused the psychological "suffering" that provoked the embassy attacks.

In 2002 Clark filed a court petition on behalf of more than 100 terrorism suspects who, while being held at the Guantanamo Bay detention center, were allegedly (and contrary to strong evidence suggesting otherwise) not provided with: “adequate clothing, underwear and footwear”; “fairly priced food, soap, tobacco and ordinary items”; and “complete latitude in the exercise of religion.”

When the U.S. was on the brink of war with Iraq in 2003, Clark wrote a letter to UN Secretary General Kofi Annan, accusing America of having committed war crimes during the 1991 Gulf War. “Far from being a threat to the United States, or any other people,” he wrote, “Iraq has been a victim of U.S. aggression for 12 years.”
Clark has also thrown his support behind such individuals as: Elizaphan Ntakirutimana, a Rwandan pastor accused of orchestrating the slaughter of thousands of Tutsis in the 1990s; Nazi war criminals Jack Riemer and Karl Linnas (the latter was an ex-Nazi concentration camp guard who oversaw the murder of approximately 12,000 resistance fighters and Jews in Estonia); Branch Davidian leader David Koresh; FMLN terrorist collaborator Jennifer Casolo; antiwar activist Philip Berrigan; political figure Lyndon Larouche (who Clark defended against charges of conspiracy and mail fraud); American Indian rights activist and double murderer Leonard Peltier; former Liberian President Charles G. Taylor, who was once Africa’s most prominent warlord; Camilo Mejia, an American soldier who deserted his post in March 2004 as an act of protest against the U.S. war in Iraq; the three individuals who killed Maryland police officer Bruce Prothero in 2000; and Lori Berenson, an American convicted of supporting the leftwing Peruvian terrorist group MRTA.

In 2004 Clark volunteered to join the defense team of former Iraqi President Saddam Hussein in his war-crimes trial before the Iraqi Special Tribunal. In late November 2005 Clark argued before this Tribunal “that it failed to respect basic human rights and was illegal because it was formed as a consequence of the United States' illegal war of aggression against the people of Iraq.”

In a December 1997 interview with Impact International, Clark claimed that when the Cold War against the Communists ended, America decided that “Islam would be the new enemy.” “At Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman's trial,” Clark continued, “what we saw in both FBI and CIA files, and this is their phrase, 'the greatest threat to the international and domestic security of the United States is Islamic fundamentalism.' But actually, 'Islamic fundamentalism' to them is redundant. So they have to convict a blind Islamic scholar of terrorism to show that Islam is, at it highest levels of learning and attainment, nothing but a terrorist concept. How could a blind man be a terrorist, what could he do? They claimed that he was the leader of the conspiracy that set off the bomb in the World Trade Centre. … He [Rahman] had nothing to do with it, but we have this war against Islam going on.”

Clark urged the self-proclaimed radical Lynne Stewart to become Rahman’s defense attorney. Clark's two previous choices, Center for Constitutional Rights attorneys William Kuntsler and Ron Kuby, had recused themselves.
In 1991 Clark founded the International Action Center (IAC), whose creed reads, "Information, Activism, and Resistance to U.S. Militarism, War, and Corporate Greed." IAC serves as an umbrella foundation for a host of anti-war radical groups, and is staffed by members of the Workers World Party (WWP), a Marxist-Leninist vanguard that idolizes the former Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin and regards Fidel Castro as a hero of the common man.

http://discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=781

Now LTT, the man who runs this site has a depth of perception about communist twits which is almost unique. He was one himself and was raised by communist parents. He knows all the prominent players in the Communist/Socialist/Progressive movement and in the 1960's he was a member of the communist Students for a Democratic Society...SDS which included members like Tom Hayden, who writes for the Huffington Post, Bill Ayers, communist domestic terrorist bomber and the A-HOLE buddy of Barack Hussein O'Bomber and some members of O'Bomber's current administration.

So LTT, the next time you feel the need for the "truth" about an individual, group or cause with which you have become enamored, you might wish to check here before you fall completely in love.
http://discoverthenetworks.org/

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posted April 10, 2010 12:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
jwhop i see no reason why you should mock someone who wants to understand what's going on.

but apparently you never tire of trotting out the old communist rant and any opportunity will do. i have news for YOU, not everyone who sees flaws in our government is a communist. in fact there's a whole lot of fundamental christians and corporate tools out there criticising it right now. and they are so brainwashed they don't understand that communism isn't the only enemy.Lawyers and judges in several countries are exploring prosecution.

"Lawyers and judges in several countries are exploring prosecution." in fact whoever was chosen to lead this would probably be a communist in your book....did you know that iraqis are looking back [i]fondly[/i/] to the days of saddam when their country was relatively functional?

g'night colonel.

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posted April 10, 2010 02:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
I can see why you're upset katatonic.

Huffington Post is obviously where you get some of your worst opinions.

On another front, here you are again attempting to defend Socialists and Communists for which there can be no defense whatsoever.

I sometimes wonder what you're doing in the United States katatonic. The US is a center right nation whose laws and Constitution are totally at odds with and totally incompatible with communism and socialism.

Just look at what's happening in America now that ordinary citizens...who are in no way political activists...have come to realize that O'Bomber and his merry little band of Marxist Socialist radicals are in the process of trying to overthrow the Constitution and destroy the economy of the United States.

November 2, 2010 can't come too soon to throw these bums out of Congress and 2012 is way to far in the future to throw O'Bomber out of the White House...to satisfy most Americans.

These bums thought they had it made. They thought they would get away with injecting Socialist poison into the bloodstream of America and no one would wake up in time to prevent it.

Now, like the cockroaches they are, they're scurrying for the woodwork and trying to stay out of the way of angry Americans they attempted to stab in the back. This is what happens in America when morons attempt to RULE against the wishes of Americans...instead of govern with the consent of the governed.

Some of the rats have already jumped ship and decided not to seek reelection. Some of their RINO enablers have too...which suits conservatives who would have voted to throw them out of office right along with the Socialist krew.

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posted April 10, 2010 02:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
actually, dear heart, i do not frequent huffpost in fact can't remember the last time i went there. if there are more republicans in congress next year i will not be jumping up and down crying treason. balance is what the constitution is all about. i'm afraid you have stubbornly read me wrong. when i pull down your outrageously one-sided one-plank arguments and fear of the commie rats, you assume i must be one of them.

however the fact that there are so many dems in congress was the direct result of ... elections!! and a need perceived for... balance!!

but guess what? your saying there is no room for the left in this country doesn't make it so!! it takes all sides to make this work!!and this just in - the chronic quitter from alaska getting shriller and shriller may impress some people but it will not get her into the white house. and if it does, then i hope there are lots of democrats in congress.

i take it you prefer biden for president??

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