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jwhop
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posted April 15, 2010 12:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
Obama: 'Whether We Like It or Not, We Remain a Dominant Military Superpower'
http://www.thefoxnation.com/politics/2010/04/14/obama-whether-we-it-or-not-we-remain-dominant-military-superpower

So who are those who would not like the fact America is a dominant military superpower?

Let's start with O'Bomber himself and follow up with his political guru, Frank Marshall Davis...member of the Communist Party USA; his self described Marxist professors whom he sought out in college, his A-Hole buddy the Communist domestic terrorist bomber, Bill Ayers, his Marxist so called minister Reverrrrend Wright, his buds over at Democratic Socialists of America, his buds at the Communist Party USA, the Communists he appointed to high level positions in the O'Bomber administration, his Socialist comrades in Congress who attempted to cut off funding for US military forces in the field...during a war, George Soros who funded O'Bomber's campaign and whose number 1 goal in life...he says...is to diminish the power and influence of the United States in world affairs along with about 10% of Americans who are "accidential Americans" who despise the United States and believe the United States IS the evil in the world.

These are O'Bomber's "core supporters" who enthuastically support O'Bomber's self described mission to "Transform America". These are the despisers of America and everything which America stands for. These are the knotheads who believe America was conceived in inequity and born in sin.

It's only in moments like this that Americans get a true glimpse of the real O'Bomber and what he stands for. Other such moments occurred when O'Bomber took his "apology tour" around the world apologizing for America.

Increasingly, Americans aren't liking what they see.

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katatonic
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posted April 15, 2010 12:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
i don't think that remark indicates hatred of america. since when is being the school bully an indication of leadership? he is suggesting we don't need to clobber everyone over the head to be leaders. heresy i know.

and where is the quote where george soros says his number one aim is to diminish the united states?

i don't know where you get your information about being conceived in inequity and born in sin. i think it HAS been suggested that the "equality" that is the cornerstone of the constitution needs updating from time to time.

or do you think women, blacks, yellow people etc should be denied the vote? perhaps we should have just allowed the south to secede and keep their slave-run way of life too? do you think these things were welcomed by 100% or even 80% of the population? does that make it wrong to push equal rights for ALL?

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posted April 15, 2010 01:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for identifying yourself as one who believes America is a "Bully".

You're in the right...or rather the "left" phew with O'Bomber.

I'm tired of doing your homework for you katatonic. Do your own research whenever you doubt what I put forth as fact.

I posted that Soros comment from his book..along with another in which Soros says he sometimes feels like God...on this forum at least 4 years ago. I'm not going back to find it but you can feel free. The comments were taken straight out of one of the books he wrote...or had written for him.

Just because you don't know about something...that doesn't mean it's not true.

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posted April 15, 2010 03:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
you might be less tired if you stopped putting words in my mouth. i said we don't HAVE to be bullies to be leaders. big difference and probably closer to what obama meant. some people LIKE being the big police force, some don't. that doesn't make them enemies of the state. jefferson didn't think we should police the world either. others disagreed with him as i disagree with you.

just as saying we won't use nukes against someone who doesn't have any is not saying we won't use whatever is necessary. it has been known for some decades that nukes are not something we can use just to show off, the cost to human life and the planet in general is way too high.

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posted April 15, 2010 03:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
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posted April 15, 2010 03:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
so i wonder why you feel the need to take it there and act like leading the way to more sensible use of something that could destroy us all is an act of cowardice or treason?

talk softly carry a big stick. doesn't mean you have to use it on children who spit on you...

as for me being lazy if i made a statement like that with no source i fancy you would want to know where i got it. and when i have used personal examples which cannot be referenced you have called me a liar. as usual, your way or the highway, right? well i always liked highways.

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posted April 15, 2010 04:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
I don't think Jwhop's comprehending the context here either. It's not an implication that he'd rather us not be a Superpower, but rather a statement of the fact that as a Superpower we have a responsibility whether we'd choose that responsibility or not. We have that responsibility by virtue of our status. Much like a school teacher may not feel that mediating disputes between children is an ideal use of his/her time, the nature of the teacher's position requires that they do so.

As such, the rest of Jwhop's post is the usual overblown nonsense.

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katatonic
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posted April 15, 2010 04:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
exactly. and he is not alone in grabbing the short end of the stick and trying to turn it into proof that obama and the current govt are cowards and traitors... without taking the time to hear what was said - once again.

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posted April 15, 2010 05:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
" 'Whether We Like It or Not, We Remain a Dominant Military Superpower'"

Sorry, O'Bomber slipped up and said what he really meant. For once, O'Bomber wasn't lying.

O'Bomber is the most unfit person ever to be President of the United States...and totally unsuited to make any decisions about military matters.

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posted April 15, 2010 05:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
He did say what he meant. You misinterpretted what he meant, though. That's blatantly obvious.

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jwhop
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posted April 15, 2010 07:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
It was the part..."Whether we like it or not" which is the operational phrase.

The "Whether we like it or not" is not at all necessary to the sentence. It merely produced a snapshot of O'Bomber's ideologically mindset.

It's not a pretty picture.

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posted April 15, 2010 07:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
There's nothing ideological about it. If a Marine commander were to say to his/her troops, "We're here to do a job whether we like it or not," it would ALWAYS be interpretted as a call to being responsible to and for the job at hand. It's the same here. It was a call to responsibility, and nothing else.

There's some major gullibility at play here, a real suspension of basic thinking. I can write example after example of similar statements being very clearly calls to be responsible for your position.

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posted April 15, 2010 11:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
Obviously O'Bomber "doesn't like it" that America is a military superpower or he wouldn't have thought to qualify his statement with the "Whether we like it or not".

Your analysis is asinine acoustic.

Military commanders in the field know the troops would rather be doing something else instead of getting shot at. So would the military commander.

Using your analogy, O'Bomber would prefer the US not be a dominant military superpower.

No matter what the issue, O'Bomber is out of phase with American citizens.

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posted April 16, 2010 10:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
Nothing in what he said can be construed as him not wanting our country to be a military superpower.

Mother to father, "We are responsible for teaching our kids good morals whether we like it or not."

Boss talking to subordinants that must work overtime, "We have to get this finished tonight, whether we like it or not."

In EVERY instance, this phrase is a call to own up to the responsibility of the position. It never indicates some secret wish that the person were not in that position. China and Russia may be hesitant partners, but Obama was saying this is something we have to do whether we like it or not.

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posted April 16, 2010 02:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
It is presumed as obvious that O'Bomber doesn't like the idea of the United States being a dominant military superpower and further that some citizen America haters who would hear his qualifier.."whether we like it or not" don't like it either.

Otherwise, his sentence makes no sense at all.

He could have and should have simply said...The United States is a dominant military superpower. As such, We, (the United States), have duties, obligations and responsibilities around the world.

You're attempting to drill another dry hole acoustic.

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posted April 16, 2010 02:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
Mr. President, is a strong America a problem?
Today at 7:09am
Sarah Palin

Asked this week about his faltering efforts to advance the Middle East peace process, President Obama did something remarkable. In front of some 47 foreign leaders and hundreds of reporters from all over the world, President Obama said that “whether we like it or not, we remain a dominant military superpower.”

Whether we like it or not? Most Americans do like it. America’s military may be one of the greatest forces for good the world has ever seen, liberating countless millions from tyranny, slavery, and oppression over the last 234 years. As a dominant superpower, the United States has won wars hot and cold; our military has advanced the cause of freedom in Iraq and Afghanistan and kept authoritarian powers like Russia and China in check.

It is in America’s and the world’s interests for our country to remain a dominant military superpower, but under our great country’s new leadership that dominance seems to be slipping away. President Obama has ended production of the F-22, the most advanced fighter jet this country has ever built. He’s gutted our missile defense program by eliminating shield resources in strategic places including Alaska. And he’s ended the program to build a new generation of nuclear weapons that would have ensured the reliability of our nuclear deterrent well into the future. All this is in the context of the country’s unsustainable debt that could further limit defense spending. As one defense expert recently explained:

The president is looking to eliminate the last vestiges of the Reagan-era buildup. Once the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are “ended” (not “won”), the arms control treaties signed, and defense budgets held at historic lows while social entitlements and debt service rise to near-European levels, the era of American superpower will have passed.

The truth is this: by his actions we see a president who seems to be much more comfortable with an American military that isn’t quite so dominant and who feels the need to apologize for America when he travels overseas. Could it be a lack of faith in American exceptionalism? The fact is that America and our allies are safer when we are a dominant military superpower – whether President Obama likes it or not.
http://www.facebook.com/notes.php?id=24718773587

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posted April 16, 2010 02:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
to quote an old friend

"WOT a LOAD of BOLLOCKS!"

is a pit bull better than a collie? depends what kind of dog you want i guess. and trotting out sarah the quitter every time you have a point to make about anything just labels you...whipped! she knows nothing about anything and even less about being president.

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posted April 16, 2010 03:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
I'm astounded at this basic lack of comprehension. That's really all you can say about this.

Thanks for proving my point about your gullibility Jwhop. Trotting out where you got your misguided opinion is exactly what we've come to expect...right along with the ironic smiley face indicating that you're truly clueless when you're indisputably wrong.

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posted April 16, 2010 05:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BearsArcher     Edit/Delete Message
It is absolutely true that Obama lacks experience with the Military and has already started cuts to reduce the funds and force. It always starts with the reduction of equipment, then necessary programs for Military families and forced retirements.

Several Military programs aimed at helping families during deployments have had their funding cut. A well known program that was heavily funded to help Military spouses receive grants in order to move into an occupation that travels with us or to begin attending college was put on hold due to too many spouses needing the funding and the funds mysteriously drying up.

Seasoned Soldiers are being "gently pushed" to consider retirement after 20 years to help reduce the costs associated with higher Sr. Enlisted and Officer Soldiers.

Clinton instituted cuts that severely and adversely affected the Military and the ability to go to war without major stress on Soldiers / Families due to extended deployments and short dwell times. Only now, because of the reduction of forces in Iraq have the Soldiers been able to have more than 12 months of dwell time before a deployment. The regiment I worked for returned from a 15 month deployment after only having been home for 12 months (at least 4 of which are spent out in the field training). Bush and Congress did increase the number of Military personnel but that goal has been put on hold with the new administration.

Obama does not know what he is doing regarding the Military and will soon castrate it worse than what Clinton or Carter ever did.

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posted April 16, 2010 05:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
Only now, because of the reduction of forces in Iraq...

all due respect pid, but a large portion of the "people" don't want perpetual police duty of the world. in fact bringing em home from iraq was part of what he was voted in to do. i don't think most people suspected that coming home from iraq would be hand in glove with expanding into other areas.

glad to see you were able to come home by the way...hope you are enjoying it.

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posted April 16, 2010 06:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BearsArcher     Edit/Delete Message
The draw down in Iraq started well before Obama was in office. It was part of the Status of Forces Agreement we have with Iraq (which is also in place with other countries- such as the SOFA with Germany- a whole other tangent).

The intent in Iraq was the surge and then the draw down and the same will happen with Afghanistan. We train the Iraqi and Afghani Soldiers / police and then move on. Unfortunately, Afghanistan was left to NATO forces for too long and they were more intent on having tea parties in their tents than keeping an eye on the borders and Taliban.

Had the US Military not been cut to shreds under Clinton, there would have been more forces to rotate through Iraq thus allowing the Soldiers to have more dwell time for rest, families and training.


Thank you for the welcome back It is good to be home in AZ. I will miss Germany but I really do love the states.

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posted April 16, 2010 06:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
Hahaha

An O'Bomber Kool-Aid drinker calling me gullible? An O'Bomber Kool-Aid drinker who laps up every drop and begs for more?

That's priceless.

First time I heard O'Bomber make his asinine "Whether we like it or not" statement, I was watching the 6 pm news on a local station.

My first impulse was to reach through the TV screen to slap the crap out of this little Marxist turkey.

He's totally unfit for the office he holds and proves it every time he opens his mouth.


Yeah Pid, I remember Kommander Korruption reducing the US military almost 40% and congress going along...at a time when the US was being attacked both at home in the US and abroad.

Then came the Iraq war and those same morons were screeching and screaming, howling and shrieking....to end the Iraq war...because we didn't have enough military personnel.

One thing is constant about leftists. They all despise the US military...even those who become Commander in Chief.


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posted April 16, 2010 07:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
You ARE gullible, Jwhop. You prove it all the time with the things you post. There's a direct correlation between what you read, watch, and listen to, and what you repeat here [without any thought].

There is no metaphorical Kool-Aid for me. I'm not here pushing an agenda. You are. Don't forget it.

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Yeah Pid, I remember Kommander Korruption reducing the US military almost 40% and congress going along...at a time when the US was being attacked both at home in the US and abroad.

And do you remember the defense cuts Secretary of Defense Dick Cheney called for? Every sensible Defense Secretary has wanted to make sensible cuts to the military.

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posted April 16, 2010 07:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
Thoughtlessness is not my bag acoustic. It is however yours.

Think back acoustic to all the times you jumped in without considering any of the implications of what you were saying.

Further acoustic, it's not I who is swilling the O'Bomber Kool-Aid; it's you...and some others here.

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posted April 16, 2010 07:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
My phone reposted.

So you're saying that you think it was "thoughtful" of yourself to post a quote you clearly didn't understand with an ill-conceived rant that seems to suggest that you believe and are angry about what you're saying, and tie it together with a broad smile that clearly contradicts your sentiment? You think that's thoughtful and bright, do you?

I think it's rather moronic.

If your wide smiley is suggestive that you actually know you're not posting anything of any real merit, then one can only ascertain that you're actively promoting a sort of propaganda, which may seem smart to you, except that anyone can decipher quite easily that the quote isn't intended at all in the manner you and Sarah Palin have suggested. Further, aligning yourself with a known idiot's opinion only serves to solidify your inability to gets things right or understand things.

I haven't jumped the gun on conclusions even a quarter of the time that you have, so don't even try to go there. You've been disproven on more occasions than anyone in the history of this forum, AND it's typically because you're posting other people's opinions and not thinking things through yourself. At least on the rare occasions that I've blundered it hasn't been the result of someone else's nonsense argument or opinion.

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