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jwhop
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posted June 23, 2010 11:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
Cute!

It must be RR...Rooster Radar.

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katatonic
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posted June 23, 2010 12:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
once again, not being a "leftist" i can't tell you what their reaction is...and i have big problems dividing the world into neat little camps like you do.

i was just stating some facts. it has been suggested the judge in question had quite a lot of oil investments to protect, and that is being investigated. a new moratorium is in the works and this decision is being appealed.

i notice you did not REFUTE any facts in your post...

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posted June 23, 2010 12:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AbsintheDragonfly     Edit/Delete Message
Democrats are from Pluto...Does this mean that Republicans are from Neptune?

It could be a brand new book!

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jwhop
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posted June 23, 2010 12:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
I was content to refute the assertions the O'Bomber administration made when O'Bomber banned drilling in the Gulf of Mexico...which I did.

I have no idea if this judge owns oil shares or ever did. But if that's the leftist criteria for judges recusing themselves from hearing lawsuits then, let's extend it to other judges who are members of Planned Parenthood, the Sierra Club and other organizations who "hear" and judge suits on subject matter in which they have a conflict of interest.

Are you up for that katatonic?

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AbsintheDragonfly
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posted June 23, 2010 12:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AbsintheDragonfly     Edit/Delete Message
But wouldn't that be a good idea for any public official in any capacity? I mean shouldn't Congress members do that too? I would think things would be a great deal more equitable that way.

For someone to say, you know what? I can't sit on the Department of the Interior because I own stock in Corp. x that has logging interests, or I donate to Environment Group z. Gee I can't judge this case, because I donate to x charity, or I own this much of stock g, etc.

That would be a great deal more impartial.

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jwhop
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posted June 23, 2010 07:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
No AD, Republicans are not from Neptune...at least not the conservative Republicans.

We would be more associated with Jupiter..expanding the economy, expanding opportunity, expanding liberty, expanding the size of the pie so everyone can have a bigger piece.

Demoscats are from Pluto fits. Demoscats are busy downgrading their appeal, downgrading opportunities, downsizing the economy and downgrading themselves to minority party status.

Pluto was recently downgraded from a planet to a dwarf..planet.

Hey AD, if you want to apply the same logic across the board to anyone having a conflict of interest not making any public policy or judicial decisions in areas where they have a conflict of interest, I'll buy into that.

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AbsintheDragonfly
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posted June 23, 2010 09:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AbsintheDragonfly     Edit/Delete Message
But Jupiter is one of the gas giants...are they full of stinky smells?

Re: conflict of interest?

I'm all for that. We can feature that in our film.

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posted June 24, 2010 01:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
Jupiter's also the gambler.

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katatonic
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posted June 24, 2010 10:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
nor was jupiter interested in expanding the pie so everyone could have a piece - he was interested in doing what HE wanted and would frequently put spells on anyone in his way, turning them into trees and animals of many varieties to render them helpless to compete with him!!

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jwhop
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posted June 24, 2010 12:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
Hmmm, I was speaking about Jupiter..."astrologically"...obviously.

Just as obviously, there are those who wish to limit success, limit opportunity, limit liberty, limit speech...in fact, limit most everything. We call those people leftists and they presently reside in the demoscat party.

Well AD, you may think the gas giant Jupiter is smelly but have you ever breathed any of that Jupiter gas?

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AbsintheDragonfly
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posted June 24, 2010 12:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AbsintheDragonfly     Edit/Delete Message
Not recently...care to share any? As I'm not from Pluto, I reside on Venus I like only happy smells!

The gasless,
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jwhop
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posted June 28, 2010 09:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
June 24, 2010
The Drilling Ban Is Soros' Bonanza
By Investor's Business Daily

Energy Policy: Our interior secretary plans to reinstate the offshore drilling moratorium struck down by a federal judge. But if deep-water drilling is so unsafe, why are we helping Brazil drill nearly three times as deep?

Maybe Secretary Ken Salazar can explain why Britain and others can safely drill in the North Sea and no other nation has suspended its offshore drilling. Yet there he was Tuesday saying he'll reissue a reworded moratorium that will make it clear to dunces like U.S. District Judge Martin Feldman why offshore drilling is unsafe.

As with health care reform and other issues, the administration's position is that we didn't make it clear enough, so we will speak slower and use smaller words. But double talk is double talk no matter how you rearrange the words.

"The decision to impose a moratorium on deep-water drilling was and is the right decision," Salazar said, even after he was caught rewording a report so a team of experts he assembled would look like they supported the moratorium, when in fact, they adamantly opposed it and thought it would do more harm than the Deepwater Horizon spill itself.

"If some drilling equipment parts are flawed, is it rational to say all are?" Feldman asked in his ruling. "Are all airplanes a danger because one was? All oil tankers like Exxon Valdez? All trains? All mines?

"That sort of thinking seems heavy-handed, and rather overbearing." Not for an administration and its environmentalist supporters whose collective goal is not to drill safely, but to drill not at all, at least not here.

Last August, the U.S. Export-Import Bank issued a "preliminary commitment" letter to Brazil's state-run Petrobras in the amount of $2 billion, with the promise of more to follow. Why are we lending billions to a foreign oil company that made $15 billion last year?

These taxpayer dollars finance exploration of the huge offshore discovery in Brazil's Tupi oil field in the Santos Basin near Rio de Janeiro. Apparently there are no pristine beaches full of tourists there. Someday we may be importing that oil we're helping Brazil get at.

Has that letter been rescinded as part of the moratorium? Why are Brazil's offshore fields safe but ours aren't?

The irony is that most of the deep-water rigs idled by the moratorium may shortly be snapped up by a Petrobras apparently undeterred by images of tar balls on Rio's beaches. Petrobras plans to drill to a depth of 14,022 feet, a depth that makes our 500-foot limit laughable. Brazil is going big-game hunting, and we're stuck in the petting zoo.

A recent study by Science Applications International Corp. shows that failure to exploit our domestic and offshore resources translates into some $2.3 trillion in lost opportunity costs for the U.S. economy over the next two decades. The American Petroleum Institute estimates that exploiting these resources would generate nearly 160,000 well-paying jobs and $1.7 trillion in federal, state and local revenues, with $1.3 trillion from offshore drilling alone.

If the moratorium stands and energy prices rise, the only ones to profit will be foreign-owned companies such as Petrobras and investors such as George Soros, who has an investment in the oil giant in the neighborhood of $900 million. Yes, the same George Soros who also is a major investor in the Democratic Party and President Obama's 2008 campaign.

Soros would love to see domestic offshore drilling shut down and those three dozen deep-water rigs sitting idle shipped off to the coast of Brazil. He has a huge investment in both Petrobras and the Democrats. He expects a return on all his investments.

While we track the trail of oil gushing from Deepwater Horizon, we should also follow the money that will be gushing into George Soros' bank account, courtesy of the U.S. government and the American taxpayer.

http://www.realclearmarkets.com/articles/2010/06/24/the_drilling_ban_is_soros_bonanza_98537.html

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katatonic
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posted June 28, 2010 12:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
the introduction of trains and then cars into society were considered travesties and mourned as the end of life as we knew it at the time. the appearance of solar and other renewable energies globally seems to be setting off the same reaction. pretty much all the big oil-producing countries in the world are investing in renewables and getting well ahead of us in place to reap the rewards of the coming economy...but please, let's not stop fouling the seas and land with oil and coal, someone might profit from it!!

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jwhop
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posted June 28, 2010 02:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
"but please, let's not stop fouling the seas and land with oil and coal, someone might profit from it!!"

I know profits are dirty words in the mouths of leftists. Profits are evil...and those who produce them are even more evil in the minds of those who worship at the alter of Karl Marx.

However, there are no more evil examples of government than those spawned by the writings of Karl Marx...and no better examples of useful idiots than those who still cling to the failed socioeconomic policies of this 5th rate 19th Century so called thinker.

"pretty much all the big oil-producing countries in the world are investing in renewables and getting well ahead of us in place to reap the rewards of the coming economy."

There is no green economy coming. We've thrown hundreds of billions of dollars at so called green energy sources only to find the costs to consumers is about 10 times the cost of energy produced by oil and coal...and...there's no way to create enough green energy production to supply America's needs.

Spain has already booted the idea off the field when they found it's cost exceeded the ability of consumers to pay for it...and also found that for every job created in the green economy...2 jobs were lost as a result in the rest of the economy.

Pipe dreams always blow up in everyone's faces given a little time.

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katatonic
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posted June 28, 2010 09:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
yes and germany has tens of millions of roofs solar panelled and working fine. i have no problem with profits, jwhop, i have a problem with people refusing to move forward when there is no way to stay where we are. and i have a problem with companies so big they CORNER the profits and make it hard for smaller concerns to thrive.

why do you think the big oil companies have claimed rights in the solar and wind fields? either they want to stop the change or they will make money from it. as usual they are playing both sides.

solar was stopped before because it would cost too much to those invested solely in the old energies. the technology for so many things has been available for years. what has been difficult is figuring out how to get a monopoly on it...

i'm not interested in marxism. but i'm not interested in living in a corporate fascist world either. already the non-corporate entrepreneur's choices and options have been narrowed to a ridiculous extent. maybe you have retired from active creation but a lot of people are trying to figure out how to make a profit outside the corporate box. what about them?

funny how every time those "socialist" regulations get privatised and deregulated we end up right back where we are...making the robber barons rich and crucifying the independent and middle class...

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posted June 28, 2010 10:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AbsintheDragonfly     Edit/Delete Message
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xdhwXIzFKY
It's time.

Well, the smart money's on Harlow
And the moon is in the street
The shadow boys are breaking all the laws
And you're east of East St. Louis
And the wind is making speeches
And the rain sounds like a round of applause
Napoleon is weeping in the Carnival saloon
His invisible fiance is in the mirror
The band is going home
It's raining hammers, it's raining nails
Yes, it's true, there's nothing left for him down here

[Chorus:]
And it's Time Time Time
And it's Time Time Time
And it's Time Time Time
That you love
And it's Time Time Time
And they all pretend they're Orphans
And their memory's like a train
You can see it getting smaller as it pulls away
And the things you can't remember
Tell the things you can't forget that
History puts a saint in every dream
Well she said she'd stick around
Until the bandages came off
But these mamas boys just don't know when to quit
And Matilda asks the sailors are those dreams
Or are those prayers
So just close your eyes, son
And this won't hurt a bit
[Chorus]
Well, things are pretty lousy for a calendar girl
The boys just dive right off the cars
And splash into the streets
And when she's on a roll she pulls a razor
From her boot and a thousand
Pigeons fall around her feet
So put a candle in the window
And a kiss upon his lips
Till the dish outside the window fills with rain
Just like a stranger with the weeds in your heart
And pay the fiddler off till I come back again

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jwhop
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posted June 29, 2010 09:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
"i'm not interested in marxism. but i'm not interested in living in a corporate fascist world either."

Hahaha

Don't look now but O'Bomber is busy setting up his Marxist Socialist Fascist form of Corporatism.

So far O'Bomber has:

Taken over parts of the Insurance sector
Taken over 2 US auto manufacturers
Taken over the Health Care industry
Taken over the Banks and Financial institutions

O'Bomber is busy trying to take over the Energy Sector of the US economy.

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posted June 29, 2010 12:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
no he has regulated those industries. with the help of congress...not the same at all. and since every time the regulations are lifted we end up right about where we are now, with the big guys snapping up all the good deals and a lot of smaller companies, calling it socialism is a flat out JOKE.

whatever form it has morphed into real socialism is government BY the people too. unfortunately there hasn't been a form of government invented that has not been perverted and corrupted including ours. and those countries you love to laugh at are far from gulags.

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posted July 02, 2010 11:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
"why do you think the big oil companies have claimed rights in the solar and wind fields?...katatonic"

No one can "claim" rights to wind and solar power. Where do you get these ideas?

General Electric is one of the biggest players in the field if not the biggest player. That's the reason they are backing the O'Bomber "crap and tax" plan to destroy the energy independence of the US and drive energy costs through the roof. GE plans to benefit enormously.

It's going to fail miserably.

Let's see katatonic.

When you take over private sector industry, private sector financial institutions...then fire their management and install your own inexperienced geeks and Czars to run their operations..which will cause their further failure...then katatonic, you've gone far beyond regulating them.

That's the O'Bomber plan, CONTROL. That's what O'Bomber has actually done.

Look for O'Bomber's commissions, councils, boards, Czars and other government interference with the private sector to come to a screeching halt after November when budgets for those Marxist, Fascist O'Bomber power grabs are zeroed in congressional budgets.

Article 1, Section 9

"No Money shall be drawn from the Treasury, but in Consequence of Appropriations made by Law;....."

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