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jwhop
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posted June 18, 2010 11:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
So, an unknown veteran who didn't campaign, didn't go on television, didn't spend any money, didn't have much in the way of campaign literature, doesn't know anything about the political system, can't or won't answer questions...and is in trouble with the police for showing pornography to a college coed...wins the South Carolina US Senate Primary race.

Now, demoscats are outraged that voters rejected their candidate and nominated Alvin Greene. They're talking about a Republican conspiracy.

Democrats Are From Pluto
By Jay D. Homnick on 6.18.10 @ 6:06AM

In the maiden episode of the classic TV comedy Get Smart in 1965, when Maxwell Smart was going to meet Agent 99 for the very first time, the code phrase for their introduction was "New York Mets Win Doubleheader." The Mets had never finished above last place and the notion of their winning twice in one day was too absurd to contemplate. Just Smart's luck, of course, the unthinkable happened and the Mets took a pair, causing a six-year-old kid to utter the password. If we were writing a pilot for such an episode in 2010 we might try this as the ridiculous headline: "Unemployed Veteran Does Not Campaign, Wins South Carolina Democrat Senate Primary by 18 Points."

The unlikely victory by Alvin Greene in South Carolina was a practical joke of sorts played by the electorate on the powers that refuse to unbe. The image of the four-term state pol who spent a quarter-million dollars to be the butt of that joke is to be enjoyed with a dollop of relish. Not since the Jesse Ventura governorship has plebiscitary contrariness asserted itself so whimsically. True, Mr. Greene has some unwholesome chapters pushing his narrative into pathways too slippery for Cinderella. But what fascinates most about the Democrats' big Greene wail is the plaint over the lack of green expended.

"How can a man win an election without spending money?"

You can hear the hurt in their voices, the feeling of betrayal, like someone who stepped out onto his patio only to find himself at the bottom of a sinkhole. Politics is supposed to be about cash, wads of it, splashing in all directions, enriching the media and the consultants and the candidates themselves. How can folks be rallied to a cause without spending on streamers and balloons and flyers and ominous radio ads delivered in hushed voices? Free votes are an outrage, it seems.

A variation on this showed in the Democrat glee over the victory of Sharron Angle in the Republican Senatorial primary in Nevada. They were gloating that Angle had less money in the bank than the other Republicans, so Reid would have no trouble beating her with his war chest of $25 million dollars. It was so disconcerting on its face to watch the Democrats salivate over the notion that this misunderstood gentle compassionate man-of-the-people Reid could crush that Tea Party wannabe… not with his melty heart but with his multi millions.

To the uninitiated this all surprises. Republicans are said to be occupied with the fiscal while the Dems seek loftier pursuits. They are helpers, givers, ceders of Lebanon, men of the spirit. They hear the cry of the impoverished while the Republicans gorge on their fattened calves. This is what we are told, but by whom? The Democrats themselves are the tellers and it turns out they are passing counterfeit currency. If anything the exact opposite is true: the Democrats are obsessed with money.

In public speaking I often challenge my audiences to name a single famously wealthy American who identifies as a Republican. Buffett, Gates, Soros, the Hollywood billionaires, proud Democrats every one. The New York smart set is all Democrat; any conservative lurking in their midst plies his view furtively, when the camera is turned away. The rich Republican is a hit in the theater of public opinion, but in truth he is a hit-and-myth proposition. He is the exaggerated proto-villain of the fevered fantasies of the self-righteous. Yet this Republican-as-Fagin caricature finds little to reflect him in the looking-glass of real life. It is unimaginable, for example, that a Republican would crow how he will obliterate the Tea Party populist because his rich buddies have fitted him for a suit with deep pockets.

So in the spirit of Global Humidifying I say: "Go Greene." Shrink that campaign footprint. Do the paperless candidacy. Keep those flyers grounded. Let the buck stop here and never give change. It is time to evict those Democrat-qua-plutocrats. Heck, Pluto is not even a planet anymore.
http://spectator.org/archives/2010/06/18/democrats-are-from-pluto

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AcousticGod
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posted June 18, 2010 12:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
See? Other people's opinions, that's what you post around here. Constantly.

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jwhop
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posted June 18, 2010 01:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
Idiot.

What opinion is that acoustic?

This is a straight news story about an unknown candidate who did little to nothing to secure the demoscat nomination for US Senator from South Carolina.

Now acoustic, this is your big chance.

What part of this story is not true...if any.
If none is untrue, then what are you bloviating about?

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katatonic
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posted June 18, 2010 02:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
I feel for Vic Rawl. The Democratic former South Carolina state representative and former Circuit Court judge is eminently qualified to represent the people of the Palmetto State. And, yet, 59 percent of Democratic primary voters chose Alvin Greene. He's the unemployed guy who somehow paid the $10,440 filing fee, who has been discharged from two branches of the military, and who faces felony obscenity charges. Greene's interviews, particularly those with The Post, Keith Olbermann and Time magazine fueled speculation that he is a Republican plant. But as we learned yesterday Greene is the beneficiary of electoral ennui and an alphabetically advantageous name.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/postpartisan/2010/06/green_light_for_alvin_greenes.ht ml

let's start the rich republican list with:

nelson rockefeller..

perhaps it is poverty consciousness that gets the republicans voting against taxing the very rich consistently. or wealth consciousness that has all those rich dems arranging things so the poor might also benefit from their labours.

where DID al greene get that filing fee??

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posted June 18, 2010 02:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
"where DID al greene get that filing fee??"..katatonic

Bush did it. Bush gave Greene the $10,000 bucks for the filing fee.

OMG, it is a Republican conspiracy to get Jim DeMint reelected!

Oh wait, DeMint was going to get reelected anyway.

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posted June 18, 2010 02:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
perhaps you didn't hear the question. where did an unemployed suspected felon get the 10 grand to put himself on the ballot?

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posted June 18, 2010 03:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
This is a straight news story about an unknown candidate

What the ...? Are you serious? That is a straight up opinion piece. Obviously. What planet are you from that you think it's "news".

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posted June 18, 2010 03:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message
whilst waiting for the pithy reply

I will entertain on the finger drums

Requests?

oh, and *poverty consciousness* is the new black.

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jwhop
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posted June 19, 2010 09:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
Well, for all those who disagree with the factual content of this article.

This is your chance to post your rebuttal.

Be my guest and please be specific.

I notice you posted no rebuttal acoustic. Just more of your blithering, blathering and bloviating. You appear to be "factless".

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posted June 19, 2010 10:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
jshop acoustic already pointed out there are precious few facts in your post. which ones would you like rebutted? isn't one butt enough??

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posted June 20, 2010 03:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
No, I pointed out that it's an editorial, not news.

Not facts:

Democrats are from Pluto: Untrue

You can hear the hurt in their voices, the feeling of betrayal, like someone who stepped out onto his patio only to find himself at the bottom of a sinkhole. Politics is supposed to be about cash, wads of it, splashing in all directions, enriching the media and the consultants and the candidates themselves. How can folks be rallied to a cause without spending on streamers and balloons and flyers and ominous radio ads delivered in hushed voices? Free votes are an outrage, it seems.

Opinion, but also untrue. Never heard a single Democrat complain about a person's not spending on a campaign. Kat's right, there's a lot of nonsense opinion in this article, none of which can be said to be objectively true.

Buffett, Gates, Soros, the Hollywood billionaires, proud Democrats every one.

Gates? A proud Democrat? Better fact check that one. Gates has funded Republicans in the past.

In public speaking I often challenge my audiences to name a single famously wealthy American who identifies as a Republican.

Isn't Sam Walton of WalMart a Republican? Shall I go through Forbes list of Billionaires? You think any rich American oil executive is a Democrat? What's ironic about this is that Republicans seem to think they're better in economic matters, and yet also want to claim Democrats to be the rich party. The economy does better under Democrats. Poverty goes down under Democrats.

Idiot's a good word, Jwhop.

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posted June 20, 2010 04:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message
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posted June 22, 2010 01:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
It seems to me that as usual acoustic, you're full of crap.

The fact that Gates once donated money to a Republican is proof of nothing...if it even is a fact at all...since you provided no proof he ever personally donated money to a Republican.

Using your theory of political association acoustic; O'Bomber is really a Republican posing as a demoscat...since BP was his biggest campaign doner among oil companies and oil companies are "said to be" campaign doners to Republicans.

Ummm, Sam Walton is "dead".

How odd don't you think that no one jumped in and attempted to refute the thrust of the article...with any credible proof.

These are the richest members of Congress.

As anyone can clearly see, out of the top 4 richest, 3 are demoscats and numbers 1 and 2 are demoscats.

1. Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.)
$230.98 million

2. Rep. Jane Harman (D-Calif.)
$225.96 million

3. Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.)
$160.62 million

4. Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D-W.Va.)
$80.40 million
http://www.rollcall.com/features/Guide-to-Congress_2008/guide/28506-1.html?page=2


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posted June 22, 2010 02:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
saw an interesting article written in 2007 titled "why are the wealthy deserting the republicans?" which really, says it all. as in jwhop's post, the SMART money has been MOVING over to the democratic side as the republican party became more and more extremist in its demands.

and both parties seem happy to pad the wallets of the big corporations at the expense of the taxpayer.

none of which changes the fact that al greene is a nobody who was voted for because he is not an established politician, the abiding theme at the moment and which ALSO helped obama get elected...

nor the fact that in california plenty of money as usual bought some elections. or the fact that the palin favourite fiorina is most famous for being high-school catty about barbara boxer's hairdo...

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NEW ORLEANS – A federal judge on Tuesday blocked a six-month moratorium on new deepwater drilling projects imposed after the massive Gulf oil spill.

The White House promised an immediate appeal. President Barack Obama's administration had halted approval of any new permits for deepwater drilling and suspended drilling of 33 exploratory wells in the Gulf.

Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said Obama believes strongly that drilling at such depths does not make any sense and puts the safety of workers "at a danger that the president does not believe we can afford."

Several companies that ferry people and supplies and provide other services to offshore drilling rigs asked U.S. District Judge Martin Feldman in New Orleans to overturn the moratorium, arguing it was arbitrarily imposed.

Feldman agreed, saying in his ruling the Interior Department assumed that because one rig failed, all companies and rigs doing deepwater drilling pose an imminent danger.

"The Deepwater Horizon oil spill is an unprecedented, sad, ugly and inhuman disaster," he wrote. "What seems clear is that the federal government has been pressed by what happened on the Deepwater Horizon into an otherwise sweeping confirmation that all Gulf deepwater drilling activities put us all in a universal threat of irreparable harm."

The moratorium was imposed after the April 20 explosion on the Deepwater Horizon drilling rig that killed 11 workers and blew out the well 5,000 feet underwater that has spewed millions of gallons of oil into the Gulf.

The Interior Department said it needed time to study the risks of deepwater drilling. But the lawsuit filed by Hornbeck Offshore Services of Covington, La., claimed there was no proof the other operations posed a threat.

Company CEO Todd Hornbeck said after the ruling that he is looking forward to getting back to work.

"It's the right thing for not only the industry but the country," he said.

The moratorium was declared May 6 and originally was to last only through the month. Obama announced May 27 that he was extending it for six months.

In Louisiana, Gov. Bobby Jindal and corporate leaders said the moratorium would force drilling rigs to leave the Gulf of Mexico for lucrative business in foreign waters.

They said the loss of business would cost the area thousands of lucrative jobs, most paying more than $50,000 a year. The state's other major economic sector, tourism, is a largely low-wage industry.

Tim Kerner, the mayor of Lafitte, La., cheered Feldman's ruling.

"I love it. I think it's great for the jobs here and the people who depend on them," said Kerner, whose constituents make their living, primarily, from commercial fishing or oil.

But in its response to the lawsuit, the Interior Department said the moratorium is necessary as attempts to stop the leak and clean the Gulf continue and new safety standards are developed.

"A second deepwater blowout could overwhelm the efforts to respond to the current disaster," the Interior Department said.

The government also challenged contentions the moratorium would lead to long-term economic harm. Although 33 deepwater drilling sites were affected, there are still 3,600 oil and natural gas production platforms in the Gulf.

Catherine Wannamaker, a lawyer for environmental groups that intervened in the case and supported the moratorium, called the ruling "a step in the wrong direction."

"We think it overlooks the ongoing harm in the Gulf, the devastation it has had on people's lives," she said. "The harm at issue with the Deepwater Horizon spill is bigger than just the Louisiana economy. It affects all of the Gulf."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_gulf_oil_spill

it seems that though jindall thinks the government should clean up the mess he doesn't want to lose any business doing so. other countries around the world are halting deepsea drilling after seeing what CAN happen...surely a little time to research what went wrong and how to fix it - which apparently has still not been figured out! - is worth the wait?

but we wouldn't want anyone to tighten their belts to help their fellow man and environment now would we?

let's not forget the enormous amount of money already being made in the industry. and the fact that other countries, among them many oil producers, are jumping ahead of us in the solar and other renewable energy industries.

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posted June 22, 2010 05:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
How odd don't you think that no one jumped in an attempted to refute the thrust of the article...with any credible proof.

I don't think it odd at all. Since when is it required that people respond to every bit of lunacy the Right conjures up? You called it news, when it clearly is not.

We've been over this issue about the parties and money before. Both sides can claim the other the "rich" party with some justification. It's unfortunate that Republicans don't understand that would make Democrats good Capitalists.

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Yes, O'Bomber attempted to stop deep water drilling in the Gulf of Mexico and got slapped down by a federal court.

The real story is not that O'Bomber and the rest of the "save the world" demoscats want to save the world. What they really want is to enrich themselves and their already wealthy friends.

The biggest recipient of O'Bomber's favor in his "stop the drilling" campaign is George Soros.

George Soros invested heavily in the Brazilian oil company which has signed leases to drill in deep water off the coast of Brazil. O'Bomber followed suit and promised to lend 2 Billion dollars to the Brazilian oil company...that's taxpayer money to develop a Brazilain oil field...spent on behalf of his biggest campaign sponsor...George Soros.

Now, if a 5000 foot drilling depth is tooooo deep to be drilling for oil...wait for it...


why is drilling in waters more than 14,000 feet deep suddenly A-1 and A-OK and with US taxpayer money to make it happen?

But wait, there's more.

Where, oh where is that George Soros invested Brazilian oil company going to get the deep water drilling rigs to drill those deep water wells? Those drilling rigs cost hundreds of millions of dollars to build..each and they're all tied up with current drilling contracts...and owned by private businesses.

O'Bomber to the rescue of O'Bomber sponsor, George Soros.

O'Bomber calls a 6 month halt to oil drilling in the Gulf of Mexico..which would free up those deep water drilling rigs since they can't possibly afford to sit idle for 6 months and with no assurance they're be able to continue drilling afterward. Further, after they leave the Gulf, they won't be back because they'll be under contract to that George Soros invested Brazilian oil company and there's lots of wells to drill there.

Immediately after O'Bomber's edict, guess who starts calling the owners and agents of those deep water oil rigs.

If you guessed that George Soros invested Brazilian oil company THEN...give yourself a gold star on your forehead.

However, not so damned fast.

That federal judge set aside O'Bomber's edict that there be no drilling in the Gulf for 6 months and he did it soon enough for those owners of those drilling rigs to make plans to stay in the Gulf. It costs a lot of money to move those drilling platforms.

Sorry George Soros; the O'Bomber plan to get those deep water drilling rigs down to Brazil to make you lots of money ran afoul of a federal judge who nixed the O'Bomber/Soros plan.

Then, there's the problem of O'Bomber lying through his teeth when he called that drilling ban. The message was that "Experts" had advised him to stop drilling for 6 months to study the problem of the well blowing out.

Those "Experts" got all huffy and said they never said any such thing and that the O'Bomber administration had added two paragraphs to their recommendations making it seem like it was their recommendation...when it wasn't at all... it was added AFTER they had signed off on the language of their findings.

That drilling ban was an invention of Barack Hussein O'Bomber and George Soros who it is clear are not the least worried about drilling in water 3 times deeper than the Gulf of Mexico.

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posted June 22, 2010 06:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
Well acoustic, if you didn't want to refute the article THEN...why are you still flapping your gums?

Surely, you must have a more profitable way to spend your time.

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posted June 22, 2010 06:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
I'm allowed to do as I please last I checked.

"This is a straight news story," you said. That's false.

quote:
Surely, you must have a more profitable way to spend your time.

Could be said of anyone here.

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posted June 22, 2010 09:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
Well, since you can't find anything in the article to credibly refute acoustic...it must, by definition be a news story.

Oh, one thing further.

There was a meeting of the demoscat establishment of South Carolina. They decided the primary election results will stand and Alvin Greene will be the demoscat nominee for Senator from South Carolina.

They might as well let the voters votes stand. Neither Greene or the other demoscat candidate has a snowball's chance in hell of defeating Jim DeMint in South Carolina.

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posted June 22, 2010 10:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
I did find notions to refute in the article, Jwhop. I wrote them already. The author's implication that there are no rich Republicans is nonsense. The notions of "hurt" Democrats upset about wads of cash not securing the vote was nonsense as well.

Read this interested parties: http://www.docstoc.com/docs/657350/Rich-state-poor-state--red-state--blue-state-Whats-the-matter-with-Connecticut

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Judge halts Obama's oil-drilling ban
Stephen Dinan
Tuesday, June 22, 2010

A federal judge in New Orleans halted President Obama's deepwater drilling moratorium on Tuesday, saying the government never justified the ban and appeared to mislead the public in the wake of the Gulf of Mexico oil spill.

Judge Martin L.C. Feldman issued an injunction, saying that the moratorium will hurt drilling-rig operators and suppliers and that the government has not proved an outright ban is needed, rather than a more limited moratorium.

He also said the Interior Department also misstated the opinion of the experts it consulted. Those experts from the National Academy of Engineering have said they don't support the blanket ban.

"Much to the government's discomfort and this Court's uneasiness, the summary also states that 'the recommendations contained in this report have been peer-reviewed by seven experts identified by the National Academy of Engineering.' As the plaintiffs, and the experts themselves, pointedly observe, this statement was misleading," Judge Feldman said in his 22-page ruling.

White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said the administration will appeal the decision, and said Mr. Obama believes the government must figure out what went wrong with the Deepwater Horizon rig before deepwater drilling goes forward. Still, the ruling is another setback as Mr. Obama seeks to show he's in control of the 2-month-old spill.

Democrats and Republicans from the Gulf states have called on the president to end the blanket moratorium, saying it is hurting the region.

Oil company executives told Congress last week they would have to move their rigs to other countries because they lose up to $1 million a day per idle rig, and said there are opportunities elsewhere. ***Note, opportunities elsewhere...like in Brazil drilling for O'Bomber's sponsor..George Soros in 14,000 feet deep water. 3 times deeper than the Gulf of Mexico which O'Bomber claims is dangerous.***
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/jun/22/judge-halts-obamas-oil-drilling-ban/

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yes and now the judge's oil connections are being investigated, an appeal lodged and a new ban imposed. not enough reason to call a halt for regrouping? poor oil companies. except they're not..countries around the world are halting deep sea rigs for awhile. they would rather get educated BEFORE it happens on their territory.

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posted June 23, 2010 10:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
How odd don't you think that no one jumped in an attempted to refute the thrust of the article...with any credible proof...me
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I don't think it odd at all. Since when is it required that people respond to every bit of lunacy the Right conjures up?...acoustic.

So, you admitted you weren't attempting to refute the facts in the article acoustic.

Now, you're changing your tune. Too late.

Hahaha, attempting to refute the article with mentions of Bill Gates...who is a rich demoscat and Sam Walton...who is dead is a very poor effort. In fact, it doesn't even qualify as "an effort".

Further, the article you linked is off point and misses the mark of relevance.

Oh, and demoscats were talking about Greene spending no money on his campaign to secure the demoscat nomination.

"I'm still trying to figure out how anybody can just plop down $10,000 who is unemployed, spend no money and get nominated," Clyburn said. Ummm, that's Congressman Jim Clyburn, D-S.C.
http://www.cleveland.com/nation/index.ssf/2010/06/felony_obscenity_charge_vs_sen.html


Oh dear katatonic. A federal judge gives O'Bomber a biatch slap for lying about the "Experts" report and leftists are up in arms.

Let's remember shall we. The O'Bomber administration gave this drill rig an award and further, waived requirements to let it operate.

Shutting down drilling in the Gulf is a leftist "feel good knee jerk reaction" but putting up to 100,000 oil workers out of jobs, the loss of billions of dollars of oil revenue to the states and sending those very expensive oil platforms to Brazil to help out O'Bomber's buddy George Soros enrich himself further...is very bad public policy and bad for the United States.

That federal judge is right. O'Bomber acted arbitrarily and I would add...corruptly.

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posted June 23, 2010 11:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AbsintheDragonfly     Edit/Delete Message
I just love this picture! How do you suppose he sees where he's going with all of those feathers?

I don't really have any opinion right now, I just wanted to come and put up this cute chicken to spread the love

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