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T
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posted July 04, 2010 10:55 AM
  
We all be bumpin' egos, 'cause we all be human.  quote:
I think humility is when you see yourself in others and them in you
Yes, & not "better than".  IP: Logged |
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posted July 04, 2010 10:55 AM
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katatonic
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posted July 04, 2010 11:16 AM
thanks pa, i'm glad someone else sees the dynamic in action...IP: Logged |
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posted July 04, 2010 11:23 AM
These clashes are learning experiences or opportunities for them, right?IP: Logged |
cpn_edgar_winner
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posted July 04, 2010 11:47 AM
i never knew anyone who actually had that problem humble themselves and admit any faults or shortcomings. i accept valus apology as most sincere. he is way more sensitive and volnerable than anyone who really has that disorder. i am proud of him, and i think things will get better if we can let go of the past and forgive him. i appreciate the enormous amount of courage it took to apologise and see the sincerety (sp) in it.IP: Logged |
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posted July 04, 2010 11:58 AM
T,  I think these clashes mean that some people got fed up with bullsh1t and stood up to the bully.
I personally do not buy all that gobbledegook about love towards somebody who bullies and insults people on a regular basis, and I absolutely refuse to even consider their empty overdramatic apologies happening again on a regular basis. Sorry, Kat and Pa, this is me and I ain't gonna change any time soon.
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katatonic
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posted July 04, 2010 12:03 PM
starsky no one is asking you to love someone you can't. just to leave it alone now. if you want to do something about it, talk to the man himself, to randall, or just don't engage people you know will **** you off... but continuing to spew venom hurts the spewer most of all...IP: Logged |
cpn_edgar_winner
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posted July 04, 2010 12:05 PM
in fact it is one part of this cycle that is different. which to me signifies an ending to the cycle. whether we accept his apology or not says more about us than him. if you don't trust it is sincere, simply avoid him.IP: Logged |
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posted July 04, 2010 12:09 PM
No, worries starkiss. I hear you. & I used to say the types of things the others are saying too though.  Also, personally i dont feel i needed an apology. And he didnt direct it to anyone in particular, he just kind of threw it out there. I'm not sure who he was apologizing to. Since I dont feel he needed to apologize to me, what is there to accept?  IP: Logged |
cpn_edgar_winner
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posted July 04, 2010 12:10 PM
i don't judge or blame anyone for feeling that way. i am just giving my opinion. IP: Logged |
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posted July 04, 2010 12:12 PM
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katatonic
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posted July 04, 2010 01:13 PM
"These clashes are learning experiences or opportunities for them, right?"yes and if all we learn is not to spend our time trying to change people we consider abusive it is a lesson well learnt. don't lie down in front of an oncoming train! IP: Logged |
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posted July 04, 2010 01:20 PM
Yes, and if you cant take the heat get out the kitchen!I liked this btw: "but if you bruise easily whitewater rafting is not a great choice of holiday..?" IP: Logged |
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posted July 04, 2010 01:21 PM
Nobody likes people telling them what to do or trying to force them to change or see things the way they do....especially not fixed signs.  IP: Logged |
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posted July 04, 2010 01:46 PM
" don't lie down in front of an oncoming train!"
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LOL, especially if the driver seat is empty. IP: Logged |
katatonic
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posted July 04, 2010 01:56 PM
and i shall now turn off my sermon mode. IP: Logged |
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posted July 04, 2010 02:18 PM
you two are funny.IP: Logged |
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posted July 04, 2010 02:26 PM
was thinking that if one bruises easily then working with people isnt your calling either? people are often kickers, biters and screamers. how many sages can we also call pansies (i'm not calling anyone here that)? usually they have a high degree of sensitivity coupled with being as tough as nails. they are balanced. they understand humanity on a deep level so are able to be soft yet strong, wise and humble at the same time.IP: Logged |
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posted July 04, 2010 02:27 PM
also, thanks Juni for sharing that poem.IP: Logged |
AbsintheDragonfly
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posted July 04, 2010 02:39 PM
I think what Starkiss is attempting to say, and forgive me if I'm wrong, is that if you have a set of expectations on your forum, about verbal behaviour, and then you ban one member for violations of that behaviour, shouldn't there be continuity of that requirement? I mean why ban Lotus, if it's ok for Valus to do the same sorts of things, and NOT be banned? Why have any rules at all, if you aren't going to be equitable in the application of said rules?I personally did email Randall about it, and got no response. I think this is why Wheels left, and Ghanima as well. Why is Valus exempt from the rules? That's all. IP: Logged |
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posted July 04, 2010 02:43 PM
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posted July 04, 2010 02:55 PM
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Musette
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posted July 04, 2010 06:41 PM
I don't engage with V because it isn't beneficial, and I avoid V's threads because they can't discuss things civily. But V is the one who brought the ugly to this once-fun thread. My post wasn't a discussion or an argument with anyone, it was a reply to iQ about "why the recent arguing wasn't a Saturn/Uranus thing." Why are the car headlights are on? Replying that the headlights are on because it's dark outside shouldn't be controversial and it sure isn't negative. Why is LL argumentative? There's a continuing cycle of one person aggressively attacking and hurting others here, and NPD exactly fits the symptoms and explains the issues. Self-humbling apologies and promises to improve are actually part of an NPD's standard arsenal and NPD people are incredibly sensitive and vulnerable. Like T, I'm not owed an apology by anyone and there is none for me to accept or reject. Hopefully the cycle will stop. If not... Well, then it won't stop. What people do in response in either case is, of course, up to them. I don't expect anyone to change nor do I expect others to hold my same opinions or values. If you all want to vote me off the LindaLand island, so be it.I could type more, but I don't want to get in to a long drawn-out argument with people here and there's nothing really to argue about. I'd much rather look at a few lolcats and then go to a fireworks party. quote:
Why have any rules at all, if you aren't going to be equitable in the application of said rules?
I also emailed Randall asking that same question. To me, it is an important point as that inequality itself enables and promotes the big blowups.IP: Logged |
Spanky Butler
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posted July 04, 2010 06:59 PM
Okay we've drifted off topic for long enough dear peeps. Time for a detour.....
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Musette
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posted July 04, 2010 07:30 PM
Spanky, I see your Kirk and I raise you by a Data AND the original spanky Butler.  IP: Logged |
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