posted July 13, 2010 03:41 PM         

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Rainbow diet, vegetarianism, veganism, fruitarianism, breatharianism, nutrition, herbal remedies, alternative therapies, meditation, chakras, the medical theocracy, purple plates, and the Body, Mind, and Soul connection for balanced healing; feel free to request White Light and healing for your S-elf, others, and for your pets

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Just sayin.

posted July 13, 2010 03:51 PM         

Actually, there's a Forum dedicated to our animal brothers and sisters.

I'm going to change this Forum description to "...anything you like that isn't covered by another Forum's description."

posted July 13, 2010 03:57 PM         

i didn't report it to randall, i just see why some would think it not relevant to this thread, and maybe would be more at home in the other one.

like in some cute fuzzy huggy animal thread, they were posted too, for shock value and conversion purposes. much like jahovah witnesses and peta, you don't have to look for them, they seek you out to convert you.

all you have to do is look around and see that we all do things that hurt our bodies. i smoke. when my obese friends tell me i should quit, i have to bite my tounge not to say, heart disease is the number one killer in america. you stop torturing your body with excess food and gluttony... and i will condsider quitting smoking. of course i never say that, i just smile and let them think they are healthier than me. in 25 years or so... we shall see, i suppose.

posted July 13, 2010 04:15 PM         

all pamhlets are available to all guests, you may browse at your lesiure and take what interests you with out a charge.

if i pick up a non smoking pamhlet, good for me.

if i pick up a phamplet with veganism facts, good for me.

if i skip all those and choose white water rafting brochuure, good for me.

all information will remain available to all guests.

posted July 13, 2010 04:47 PM         

there are many people who are vegan or vegetarian due to health reasons and not for animal compassion. The way it is listed in the topic leans one towards the health benefits of it.

So many of you are linking animal suffering to vegan and vegetarian.

Yes, many of us are vegan/vegetarian for ethical reasons.

However, what I see was that this topic was about how BP are destroying the earth's animals and Valus just showed, "look, here is animal suffering too". That's how I took it.

Maybe then this whole topic should have been placed at Heathcliff's Corner since it is about animals suffering due to BP.

It seems okay for people to spiral ideas on one topic (you guys are talking about smoking) but Valus isn't allowed to say "hey look animals are suffering here too".....

......Just trying to be fair here.

posted July 13, 2010 05:00 PM         

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Maybe then this whole topic should have been placed at Heathcliff's Corner since it is about animals suffering due to BP.

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It should, I agree. Either that or GU. I'm sorry for posting it in LL Central, and I apologize about the title of the posting, it wasnt' very family friendly.

The story of the dolphin blowing oil out of it's blowhole, got me worked up, and I should have taken 5 before posting.

Nepthys,

I think the objection some have to Valus, is that he tends to get abrasive when communicating his passion, and take a my way or the highway approach.

This says it better:

The Sun-Mars sextile aspecting Damocles in the sign of the collective is a perfect example of the perils of relating to the collective with an if-I-ruled-the-world attitude. Like maybe shiny shoes, creased trousers, capitalism and your religion of choice are not for everybody. Even the best intentions can’t be force-fed en masse without inspiring resistance
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No matter how strong your gut feeling is and how aligned with your higher self it may be, it’s important to remember that the informed intuition of others may not be on the same page.

posted July 13, 2010 05:11 PM         

Putting aside for a moment whatever Valus has done elsewhere:

I just think that if we are allowed to spiral ideas and topics within threads.......then Valus wasn't wrong in posting pics of other animals suffering too here. (here in this particular thread) (also caused by mankind)

posted July 13, 2010 05:27 PM         

You are a dear person. Did you know that? I hope you do, because you are wonderful and I really appreciate you.

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That being said, yes, I probably should have put up a warning. (this is what happens when you act without thinking) I know that many people are sensitive to animal suffering, myself included. I will edit.

posted July 13, 2010 07:53 PM         

Makes you wonder what all "they" haven't made public about what is really going on over there.

The waste of marine life makes me so angry. The pic of the dolphin on here was just the tip of the ice berg. They didn't ask for their world to be destroyed. And it's frustrating because you want to help in some way, but can't. Just horrible.

posted July 13, 2010 10:44 PM         

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A study conducted by the Institute for Ecological Economy Research concluded that a meat-eater’s diet is responsible for more than 7 times as much greenhouse gas emissions as a vegan’s diet.

On average a person switching from the standard American diet to a vegan diet will prevent the abuse and killing of over 100 animals per year.

And you save more water by not eating a pound of beef than you do by not showering for an entire year.

Now a new United Nations report calls cattle the greatest threat to the climate, forests and wildlife.

Cattle are ‘responsible for 18%++ of greenhouse gases, more than cars, planes and all other forms of transport put together.’

This includes the fuel burned making fertilizer, to produce the meat and transport it, as well as the obvious cow fart and manure production of methane, 20 times more effective as a global warmer as CO2.

It takes 2,500 gallons of water to produce a pound of meat, but only 60 gallons to water to produce a pound of wheat!

And nearly 10 billion animals raised and slaughtered for food in the U.S. every year.

http://girliegirlarmy.com/blog/20100222/got-plants-is-animal-protein-necessary/

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Save the planet. Stop eating meat.

posted July 14, 2010 12:47 AM         

just because this is a forum for discussing "anything" doesn't mean it is up for one person to turn into their own private platform.