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Peri
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posted July 27, 2010 05:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message
Yes, right now some people are overreacting because of all the things you said to them in the past.

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juniperb
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posted July 27, 2010 06:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message
observations valus how are they poor adab?

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Valus
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posted July 27, 2010 06:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Valus     Edit/Delete Message
Peri,

Okay, so, they're all excused? But I'm the guilty one? Nevermind the fact that it's a dozen to one up in here. That they are being backed up by comrades, and being provoked by only one adversary. Nevermind that I am virtually standing alone (at least, on the boards) being provoked by a dozen of you. You want to talk about the past? Multiply this dozen by six years. Six years of these fools ganging up on me and repeating their insults over and over again. Patting each other on the back and never apologizing. Never admitting any part in this. I've been provoked MANY more times than they have, Peri. But they're excused, and I am not?

GET REAL.

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Valus
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posted July 27, 2010 06:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Valus     Edit/Delete Message
Right, juni.

And these are just my observations,
clothed in the kindest language imaginable.

You are a hoot.

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Yin
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posted July 27, 2010 06:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yin     Edit/Delete Message
Valus, you are not alone here. I just hate arguments and I'm not good at them.

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Valus
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posted July 27, 2010 06:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Valus     Edit/Delete Message

I know that, Yin. Thank you.

I hear that in private
from numerous Knowflakes.

But they want to stay out of it,
and I respect their decisions,
so I'm not going to name names.

It's tough doing this alone, though.

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Peri
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posted July 27, 2010 06:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message
I am not saying they are all excused and you are the guilty one, am just saying there's a reason why they react this way. There used to be a lot more of your supporters until you turned them away. I am not trying to be mean or accuse of of all human sins, am just suggesting you be a bit more tolerant and respectful when someone does not agree with your views then people will become a lot more interested in what you have to tell them.

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Valus
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posted July 27, 2010 06:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Valus     Edit/Delete Message
I agree.

But for every reason why they act this way,
there are twelve reasons why I act this way.

This began with Absinthe's abuse of power,
and my refusal to take it sitting down.
Not with me being insulting.

THAT is what THIS is about.

I stood up for what's fair,
and they began insulting me.
Bottom f*cking line.

And I do hear you.
And I do try.

I'd hear you even more clearly,
and I'd have strength to try harder,
if you could admit some of these things.

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juniperb
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posted July 27, 2010 06:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message
yes valus, I am a hoot ! I have a sense of humor and don`t get my pouty lip stuck out over these exchanges.
While you are in here chatting up animal rights, I and many others are out there doing it up.
Just different means and perspective on how to get a job done

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Peri
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posted July 27, 2010 06:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message
well, I admit I would have left your Holisticism thread in LLC2 if I were a Mod.

I admit, in my opinion, people were overreacting to you today.

I admit we all get mean when provoked.

And this is very sad because we all love this place.

Anyway, I am tired now, time to go to bed.

Be well.

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Yin
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posted July 27, 2010 06:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yin     Edit/Delete Message
Juni, this is meant as a sincere question. How are you doing it up?

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juniperb
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posted July 27, 2010 06:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message
I know you are sincere Yin
It is well known I run foster care for all animals ( exception reptiles)
To provide medical care, TLC , training and adoption into a safe and family oriented home.
I am a member of 2 local shelter orgs. and work many animal rights booths within a 3 county area. This is farm county so it is important to get it out farm animals have rights too .

I provide $$ to help the needy/abused animals and famlies needing aid w/their animals..
I teach care & handling training for llamas and dogs.
Without getting specific, that is a basic answer. .
Small scale and sure it won`t change the world but it helps animal and humans one animal human at a time.
The road to Rome wasn`t paved in a day but we can take one challenge on at a time until we see it through

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Valus
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posted July 27, 2010 06:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Valus     Edit/Delete Message

Juni,

That's wonderful that you do what you do.

Now let's talk about an issue that concerns,
not a handful of animals, but billions of them.
(By definition, a truly Aquarian issue.)

What positions have you taken (publicly)
on the socially-accepted genocide of animals
that is presently destroying our planet?

What UNPOPULAR positions are you taking?
What politically incorrect stances?

What are you speaking out against
that isn't already commonly abhorred?

This is extremely important.

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Valus
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posted July 27, 2010 07:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Valus     Edit/Delete Message

Thank you, Peri.

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Yin
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posted July 27, 2010 07:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yin     Edit/Delete Message
Juni, thank you for doing what you are doing. That's a fine example to live by.
Valus, thank you for doing what you are doing. That's a fine example to live by.
Both of your work is important and makes a difference in the world. I don't see how one can exist without the other.

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juniperb
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posted July 27, 2010 07:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message
valus, you are lumping all humans and animals into one wad.
It is unfair to animal and human.
A wise community grows into a wise County into wise State and it spreads from there.
If you wish to take the road that beats the world up, so be it. I am not complaining about your intentions am I?
It is about your agenda that you are confusing with the Intention. You want it all one way NOW. You are willing to beat up anyone who doesn`t understand and the way of life they are conditioned to.
You would be amazed at what patience, knowledge and gentleness can accomplish.
In the last 10 years I have seen farm animals treatment change radically. Teaching the community empowers them to properly care for their livestock and the animals well being is ensured.
Again valus, small scale and believe it or not, quite unpopular in farmland.
You go beat them up and I will work quietly/steadly to provide what I can when I can to ensure a good life for the animals entrusted to our care.

I wish you well!

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What we do for ourselves dies with us. What we do for others and the world is immortal"~

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Valus
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posted July 27, 2010 07:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Valus     Edit/Delete Message
quote:

Juni, thank you for doing what you are doing. That's a fine example to live by.
Valus, thank you for doing what you are doing. That's a fine example to live by.
Both of your work is important and makes a difference in the world.
I don't see how one can exist without the other.

You're way ahead of us both, Yin.

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AbsintheDragonfly
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posted July 27, 2010 07:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AbsintheDragonfly     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
This began with Absinthe's abuse of power,
and my refusal to take it sitting down.
Not with me being insulting.

THAT is what THIS is about.

I stood up for what's fair,
and they began insulting me.
Bottom f*cking line.


The only one insulting me today was YOU Valus.

I told you, you don't get to use LLC2 as your personal blog anymore or battleground. That's not what it's there for. It's a gathering place.

I have been asked to moderate LLC2. Many of your posts could be put in Health and Healing, Universal Codes, Divine Diversity, and your personal KTAA Valus post.

If you continue to put posts in LLC2 when they have other places to go, I'm going to move them. End of story.

You can CHOOSE to put them there, but if you do, I will have to move them.

You can CHOOSE to feel about it however you want.

I will continue to move posts by other people, when I have the time to do so. I have 4 children, whom I homeschool. I am working very hard on getting a small business up and running. I spent most of the morning removing a virus from my computer so that I could fulfill an order by a paying customer.

IF you hadn't got in a toot, I would have moved them when I got back on the internet, with FREE time to do so. Or if it was a emergency, there are THREE other mods who could do so.

If it's a problem, with me moving posts, I suggest you take it up with Randall. Like I have said before, all I can do is to move things to where they go. I don't write the forum descriptions.

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lalalinda
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posted July 27, 2010 09:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message
Well, I love you Valus
(even though Nietzsche and Schopenhauer make me crazy)

You are an important member of LL.
You have a long history here and quite frankly there would be a terrible void without you.

We are a family, don't forget that
and underneath it all...
your sisters love you too

note to self: this is a political forum, not a family therapy forum so those flying tomatoes are probably aimed at me. eek

Out!

Jwhop
Hey Peri
Miss Juni
{{hugs}} Abs

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Nephthys
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posted July 27, 2010 09:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nephthys     Edit/Delete Message
I don't have time to read all replies here but I think this subject keeps coming up and I wasn't sure which thread was best to reply to it in........regarding where posts about animals should go:

Heathcliffe's Corner
ARF! ARF! Exclusively dedicated to Linda's talking sheepdog, although Heathcliffe has graciously agreed to allow us to use this Forum for Topics related to all our animal brothers and sisters (Moderated by Nephthys and Randall)

This forum is not for animal rights, but for the health benefits of a vegan or vegetarian diet:

Health And Healing
Rainbow diet, vegetarianism, veganism, fruitarianism, breatharianism, nutrition, herbal remedies, alternative therapies, meditation, chakras, the medical theocracy, purple plates, and the Body, Mind, and Soul connection for balanced healing; feel free to request White Light and healing for your S-elf, others, and for your pets (Moderated by SunChild)

Valus, please feel free to post any of your topics about animal rights at Heathcliffe's Corner. It was created for our love of animals

To Everyone:

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LEXX
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posted July 27, 2010 10:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
Nephthys
Thank you for clarifying!

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MysticMelody
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posted July 27, 2010 11:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message
"The point is people do not despise you as a revolutionary thinker, they despise your way of reacting to their opinions when they happen to be different from yours. "

yup.

Juni

I don't like the way AD is treating S but I don't really care anymore. I get bitchy women making comments to me all the time (not meaning AD who had always been a decent enough person from what little I know of her, but addressing Valus' point of view on the situation). I ignore or deflect and go on with my life. Valus engages them and then fights them more because they fought him. Fight Fight Fight Fight. And now he is so lost he lashes out at friends. There are plenty of people who I believe are idiots who will never "get" me. I just don't waste my time fighting with them. I told S for years not to waste his time fighting with people who don't get him but he believes he is doing a service engaging people who are upset with him. Often times in the past he WAS... and it worked out for the good with more openness and honesty. For the past 6 months it is just ugly and bitter and getting worse. I don't know why any of those involved in this continue to bother with each other.
Stop trying so hard to be understood and try to understand. Or just leave each other alone, to heal at least.

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jwhop
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posted July 28, 2010 12:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
lalalinda

I'd say something about all the Lindaland Central rowdies coming down here to GU to make trouble on our peaceful forum but I hate controversy.

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SunChild
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posted July 28, 2010 02:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunChild     Edit/Delete Message
Ditto what Lalalinda said

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Peri
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posted July 28, 2010 07:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message
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