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jwhop
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posted September 09, 2010 10:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
That's right Fidel Castro agrees with me...that the Marxist Communist socio-economic models DO NOT WORK.

My only question to Fidel is...what the F took you so long to figure that out? It took you 50 years to come to that realization?

Any reasonably bright 10 year old could have told Fidel WHY Marxist Socialism doesn't work and can't work.

Example:

A next door neighbor approaches Little Johnny and offers him 5 bucks to mow his lawn. Little Johnny mows the lawn and collects his 5 bucks. Little Johnny's father snatches the 5 bucks out of Little Johnny's hand and doesn't even say..Thank you.

Next week the same neighbor asks Little Johnny to mow his lawn again.

Little Johnny says...buzz off bozo. Since my father is getting the money, get him to mow your lawn.

Another question for leftists of all stripes is....if Fidel Castro has figured it out..finally...that Marxist Socialism doesn't work...why the hell haven't you?

Report: Castro says Cuban model doesn't work
By PAUL HAVEN, Associated Press Writer
Wed Sep 8, 3:18 pm ET

HAVANA – Fidel Castro told a visiting American journalist that Cuba's communist economic model doesn't work, a rare comment on domestic affairs from a man who has conspicuously steered clear of local issues since stepping down four years ago.

The fact that things are not working efficiently on this cash-strapped Caribbean island is hardly news. Fidel's brother Raul, the country's president, has said the same thing repeatedly. But the blunt assessment by the father of Cuba's 1959 revolution is sure to raise eyebrows.

Jeffrey Goldberg, a national correspondent for The Atlantic magazine, asked if Cuba's economic system was still worth exporting to other countries, and Castro replied: "The Cuban model doesn't even work for us anymore" Goldberg wrote Wednesday in a post on his Atlantic blog.

He said Castro made the comment casually over lunch following a long talk about the Middle East, and did not elaborate. The Cuban government had no immediate comment on Goldberg's account.

Since stepping down from power in 2006, the ex-president has focused almost entirely on international affairs and said very little about Cuba and its politics, perhaps to limit the perception he is stepping on his brother's toes.

Goldberg, who traveled to Cuba at Castro's invitation last week to discuss a recent Atlantic article he wrote about Iran's nuclear program, also reported on Tuesday that Castro questioned his own actions during the 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis, including his recommendation to Soviet leaders that they use nuclear weapons against the United States.

Even after the fall of the Soviet Union, Cuba has clung to its communist system.

The state controls well over 90 percent of the economy, paying workers salaries of about $20 a month in return for free health care and education, and nearly free transportation and housing. At least a portion of every citizen's food needs are sold to them through ration books at heavily subsidized prices.

President Raul Castro and others have instituted a series of limited economic reforms, and have warned Cubans that they need to start working harder and expecting less from the government. But the president has also made it clear he has no desire to depart from Cuba's socialist system or embrace capitalism.

Fidel Castro stepped down temporarily in July 2006 due to a serious illness that nearly killed him.

He resigned permanently two years later, but remains head of the Communist Party. After staying almost entirely out of the spotlight for four years, he re-emerged in July and now speaks frequently about international affairs. He has been warning for weeks of the threat of a nuclear war over Iran.

Castro's interview with Goldberg is the only one he has given to an American journalist since he left office.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100908/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/cb_cuba_fidel_castro

"But the president has also made it clear he has no desire to depart from Cuba's socialist system or embrace capitalism."

That's right, in typical leftist fashion...we know Socialism doesn't work...but we're gonna keep doin it anyway!

As Bugs Bunny would say..."What a Maroon"!

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AbsintheDragonfly
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posted September 16, 2010 08:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AbsintheDragonfly     Edit/Delete Message
Kevin read on one of his news feeds, that this will immediately put 1 million cubans out of work.

What are the ramifications for Florida if that happens Jwhop? Are there going to be more boat people?

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katatonic
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posted September 16, 2010 08:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
castro is no longer president, even if his brother is. the fact that they obviously need to change things doesn't mean they need to "embrace capitalism"

anymore than our need to revise necessarily means giving up our representative republic! i guess 2+2 = 5 somedays...not.

would you say, jwhop, that just because the country is not in a great state right now we should just toss the constitution and crown obama emperor? sounds a bit drastic, right? so why should cuba throw the baby out with the bathwater?

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Eleanore
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posted September 18, 2010 12:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eleanore     Edit/Delete Message
Because in this particular case, the baby is dead.

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katatonic
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posted September 18, 2010 12:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
hi eleanore! have to say i am not very familiar with cuba's own brand of socialism/communism...what i am trying to say is that the fact that they need to make alterations doesn't mean the whole idea is bad. from what i do know the problem is not socialism but the way it was executed. many other countries have found ways to form cooperative/collective govts without impinging on personal liberty altogether.

in fact the only form of government that does not constrict the people within it somewhat is total anarchy...the ultimate in small government.

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