posted November 18, 2010 10:31 PM            

Until then, I will not be spending my time worrying about things I can NOT change.

I will spend my time doing the best with what I have, until I can't do that, anymore.

posted November 18, 2010 10:34 PM            

I was referring more to things like 'America: the Queen's fiefdom'. If you want me to be subjective, it felt alot to me like some serious Ego-Tripping. But to get back on the more objective sides of things, I love my Sci-Fi but I don't generally pander to alot of conspiracy theories without good enough proof. I don't think I'm 'blind' or 'delusional' just for asking for some.

posted November 18, 2010 10:44 PM            

Yeah your general reaction has been the typical reaction I've gotten from trying to explain to my American friends before...
Understandable to some point...& No offense taken.
As psychologists always say, the first step to healing is, "denial."

PREACHING?
No, never had that intention...which is why I stated in the beginning:

"Then have an open mind & ear to listen to the concepts, go off on your own to research it, & decide on a conclusion for yourself."
......*and*......
"I'm not the one to explain complex historical world politics...as it's every individual's own responsibility towards themselves to find out."
(However, if you knew me in person, I would not mind chilling at starbucks & explain everything...)

I merely brought up some questions for people to think about, that's all. Take it or leave it, cuz there's no point debating sometimes.

[edit]:
Preaching would actually be, automatically giving people an outcome, or "C," and trying to force them to accept it. I dont agree with that method at all. Main reason being, when people are just handed a silver spoon/answer, they get lazy and dont question/research for themselves. Another reason being, sometimes it's hard to truly understand "C," unless you SEE for yourself how A+B indeed forms C. It's like just telling a Christian person Astrology works (C). The Christian person would think it's BS, until they see enough sufficient evidence (A+B) to get it....

As for the POINTS you brought up:

1) "Limited to what we can do,"
--Well everyone can start with baby steps, first being open minded, becoming aware. Then changing the outcome of small things like the Hollywood/Celeb/Voting thing I previously mentioned.
Think back, how many historical revolutions have there been?? French Revolution, Russian, Chinese, etc, against their central govt/aristocracy. Have we learnt nothing from history?

2) OIL SPILLS...
--I'm guessing your refering to BP. I ask you, what's REALLY going on behind that one...that the American govt/media has concealed?? another (Why) for you to think about.

3) "WAR that has no end..."
--Now here's a BIG (WHY).
"...Politicans have done nothing..."
--Another massive (WHY).

4) "Do you think that the Average American has the know-how or the influence to do ANYTHING"
-- "With Knowledge comes Power." The African American slaves werent freed nor given equality rights all in one day. It all starts with single individuals like Martin Luther King to get the ball rolling. Another, have we learnt nothing from history??

Just food for a thought!

posted November 18, 2010 11:28 PM            

I always find the the biggest conspiracy theorists sound the most "naive" when explaining in terms and quotes the simple, motivational solutions to the WHOLE WORLD's biggest problems.

I can guarantee you, with all the control of business, media, politics, weaponry, chemical warfare, by elite people... even if I WAS Martin Luther King reincarnate, I wouldn't make a single DENT in what these people have planned for this planet.

The illuminati have been around for hundreds of years, and will stop at nothing to weave society into a One World Order... look at what they've already accomplished.

I think it's really refreshing to see you folks mulling around these topics, because it seems to be you think being educated about these things will bring you some sort of upperhand; some help will come of it.

It won't.

I can tell you that as quickly as I can tell you that some of my closest friends, chemical and biological warfare specialists have told me point blank (when asked what can be done to stop this), have said pretty much NOTHING.

The ego-maniacs of the world will stop at nothing to get the kind of control and dominance they want. Anything or anyone that gets in their way, will become a casualty.

Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe these theories are NOT true. Maybe the sky isn't falling. I don't know.

But, seriously, with resources becoming more and more limited, the U.S. being so severely in debt, the population booming to unheard of numbers, and this background plot of the illuminati... forgive me if I just say to heck with it, and try to enjoy the simplicity I have in my life, right now.

posted November 19, 2010 12:07 AM            

I'm not going to debate with you, because you're MORE than entitled to your own opinions. "Whatever floats your boat," applies to everyone. That's kool...

I just want to share the following...

Originally I chose to go into filmaking, is not to work in Hollywood. Hollywood is more or less my "grad," school in training.
Since a young age, I've always felt deeply concerned about many political & social issues around the world. I felt "helpless."
Then I thought, what's one of the most effective ways to get through to the masses?? Everyone watches TV & Films! & the rest is history. How many people even knew who Oscar Schindler was, if "Schindler's List," wasnt made into a film?

If you study up on film theory & it's development...you'll learn that "Documentary," filmaking developed because it was a form/means to challenge biased, government controlled media. The peasants of Russia were some of the FIRST documentary filmakers to get together and make clips against Czar Nicholas. They helped catapult everything into a full blown Russian Revolution. Hitler would never have been half as influential if it werent for Leni Riefenstahl's docu-propoganda.

If you havent seen, "THE COVE," I highly recommend it. It's about the mass dolphin slaughters in Japan & exposing Japan's govt secret motives.
Ric O'Barry (TV show flipper's dolphin trainer), as an individual single handedly brought up mass awareness. He's been arrested in Japan, ridiculed, hated on...& one of his activist friends was even murdered by "police."
Well Scientists tell us the world's going to crap out in about 100years, so all wildlife is going to suffer & die anyways. Should we just sit back and relax?? I guess if that's what one wants....

I quote him:
"There are only 2 kinds of people in this world...your either an Activist, or a Non-Activist. Which one are you??"

I've always felt the same. I'm just your normal average girl. Perhaps I'll never reach the point of making my own film? (as it's very difficult). Or perhaps nobody would watch it & it wouldnt make a difference....
But I am an activist at heart...& at least I would die happy knowing I tried to make a difference.

You dont have to tell me about Chemical/technical warfare specialists. My older Bro just got sent to Israel recently to develop Green/Nano-tech. That IS the world's future technology & Israel is one of the leading hubs of technological/warfare advancement. Which is why that tiny country, against all odds was able to defeat all it's Arab neighbours combined, in 1 single scrap.

My brother was a child prodigy genius btw. He grad from Highschool by the time he was 11yrs old & was always featured on the news. Since he was 7 or 8, he would say that one day he wanted to be like Bill Gates in the world of technology.

Your Scientist friends are right in the fact, the world is going to crap out eventually whether we do anything about it. My brother tells me the same thing too. However he says he wants to TRY to make the world a better place. He KNOWS he cant save the world, but at least he would rather die trying...

posted November 19, 2010 01:10 AM            

how old are you plutosquared? cause you seem young to me and over the internet, age differences disappear, with its good and bad consequences.

posted November 19, 2010 09:30 AM              

Why is asking ones age a defensive question? I mean why not just say "sure Pire, i'm 21. What about you?"

People really need to chill out in this world and realise that NOT everything is personally directed toward the 'person' reading the comment of question! In fact 99% of the time, it isn't personal.
I'll read through the rest of this thread later on when l have more time.

posted November 19, 2010 10:58 AM            

in richmond (ca), a largely rundown, largely brownskinned city near SF, the voilence has been atrocious for years. drive-bys, gang crimes, drug crimes, plain old robberies...people turning on their own out of frustration with a system that keeps them locked out...

so a few intelligent richmond natives got together and started a neighbourhood garden and made a concerted effort to create a REAL community. violence has been going down and other neighbourhoods have seen the results and the trend is catching. the police are not to be counted on, the city government is broke...so resorting to the microcosm was the only way to go.

i hear local radio stations are having a comeback too in response to the lock-out media across the board.

we will NOT ALL go down like so many ants and roaches. evil has a way of imploding. the third reich was destroyed from within, and there ARE enough good souls WITHIN the oligarchy to help the rest of us. when the time comes...

the general idea is to start trying to live on a better, more caring level NOW, and when the **** really hits the fan, because it hasn't yet!, you will be in place with a support system and a headstart.

posted November 19, 2010 11:54 AM            

I used to be like you guys. I used to be very interested in politics, be very interested in conspiracy theory, and as an ARIES, felt that I could really have a chance at fighting the EVIL in this world.

That was until I met REAL EVIL.

Some of you are probably going to laugh at the idea of "real evil". You probably doubt that anyone could have a void of character and human qualities. Maybe you believe that everyone has redeemable qualities... something to be reasoned with.

You might even think that the people (like me) who believe in "true evil" are crazy, stupid, naive people...

And, further, that even behind the most hardened criminal, there's a "somewhat normal human being there" that can be reasoned with or fought against.

Let me tell you, for your own safety and enlightenment, YOU ARE WRONG.

There are EVIL people in this world, that not only have the ability to warp your mind, warp other's minds, weave in and out of the system, get away with atrocious crimes, blame crime on innocent people, take things that are not theirs, destroy lives, but take PURE, BLISSFUL ENJOYMENT at the suffering of others.

They are like the "black holes" of our universe. They consume everything that comes within their sphere. They are completely dark inside. Their presence is even "palpable".

If you believe that those "true evil" people are not the ones in power (illuminati), that they're not the ones that have their own selfish interests at heart, you are tragically mistaken.

These people CAN NOT be fought against. It is like fighting against a circular saw. They may end up losing a few, when stuff hits the fan, but probably not many...

They will likely be the ones that have first pick of secure places like NORAD, underground cities and housing, and stored resources.

After their tragic plot unfolds, we may be lucky enough to have a few unharmed individuals left - but that will be more "luck" and "grace" than of our own doing.

posted November 20, 2010 04:06 AM            

half of the spending in military is by the US

what power does any other country has against this?

posted November 20, 2010 07:10 AM            

Are you attempting to establish a legal argument that the people of the United States are not the owners of the United States, the lands within and that ownership is vested in the persons of the British Monarchy?

posted November 20, 2010 01:34 PM            

Now, would anyone like to make a legal argument as to why India is not still a colony owned lock, stock and barrel by the British?

How about a legal argument as to why Britain is not owned by Germany...since the ruling family...Windsors...are German. Wanna grab this one Lara?

posted November 21, 2010 03:51 AM            

The Original Property Documents of Indian Lands ultimately have a connection to The British Empire. India got "Governing Independence" and "Right to Vote" the candidates for government. The property is still leased from the British Empire. Our top brass "obeys" the House of Windsor.
Our entire Legal System is a copy of old British Law.

Why else does the Reserve Bank of India not shift its reserves to Euros or Yen or Gold and Silver even though we are not signatories to Bretton Woods. Why did the Indian Government sign a Nuclear Deal with the USA against the people's wishes? Why no action is taken against the criminal Warren Anderson of Union Carbide? We cannot act against CIA or MI5. If India were truly independent, our agents would have entered USA and captured many renegade CIA agents responsible for the 26-11-2008 Mumbai Killings where David Coleman Headley of the CIA and his Handlers were fully aware. The CIA trained terrorists took out more than dozen US Citizens lives as well in those attacks, I dont believe you were aware of this. Can you or I take any legal action on behalf of the grieving families against the CIA or MI5 for "allowing" this ? Are we truly independent democracies?