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jwhop
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posted November 22, 2010 11:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"By fluke and without intending to, you actually may have said something that has validity"...IQ

What makes you think what I said was inadvertent IQ?

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iQ
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posted November 23, 2010 01:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I thought you wanted to imply "Pot calling kettle Black" because I am Indian and talking about America's issues with the British Crown..

Well, The Pot is very much black too in this matter of land ownership.

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Frozen Queen
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posted February 01, 2011 07:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Frozen Queen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
WHAT CAN WE DO?????????????????????

Rome was not built in a day.

No matter how dark things become, there's always hope. You say that the Illuminati are just a bunch who have an iron hand over the rest of humanity. True, but that does not make them indefeatable. They are not the all-powerful elite they project themselves to be or they would have no need for lies and subterfuge to carry out their nefarious agendas.

They are all very much beatable as are others of their ilk: the dictators and corrupt politicians who tow their line like whimpering dogs but bark at those they consider inferior. There are revolutions and uprisings happening in the world as I write and the only reason for this is because the oppressors are WEAK BEFORE THE MAJORITY.

What hope have a few shadow folks against the strength of a collective.

You forget that their greatest weapon is fear and it is often said that fear makes a foe seem more dangerous than he actually is. Instead of asking yourself what can you do, start by educating yourself and making conscious choices in your life.

Don't eat GM foods.
Don't support repressive policies.
Don't take the flu shot.
Don't chose antibiotic-laced meat.
Don't buy the lie of the Federal Reserve.
Don't allow the mass-media crap.

and most important, DON'T LET THEM SCARE YOU AND TAKE AWAY YOUR OWN POWER.

There would be no change if everyone cowered in their corners with fear.

And before someone asks, folks, I'm 22

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emitres
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posted February 01, 2011 11:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for emitres     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
am wondering how i missed this??


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Originally posted by Frozen Queen:
WHAT CAN WE DO?????????????????????

Rome was not built in a day.

No matter how dark things become, there's always hope. You say that the Illuminati are just a bunch who have an iron hand over the rest of humanity. True, but that does not make them indefeatable. They are not the all-powerful elite they project themselves to be or they would have no need for lies and subterfuge to carry out their nefarious agendas.

They are all very much beatable as are others of their ilk: the dictators and corrupt politicians who tow their line like whimpering dogs but bark at those they consider inferior. There are revolutions and uprisings happening in the world as I write and the only reason for this is because the oppressors are WEAK BEFORE THE MAJORITY.

What hope have a few shadow folks against the strength of a collective.

You forget that their greatest weapon is fear and it is often said that fear makes a foe seem more dangerous than he actually is. Instead of asking yourself what can you do, start by educating yourself and making conscious choices in your life.

Don't eat GM foods.
Don't support repressive policies.
Don't take the flu shot.
Don't chose antibiotic-laced meat.
Don't buy the lie of the Federal Reserve.
Don't allow the mass-media crap.

and most important, DON'T LET THEM SCARE YOU AND TAKE AWAY YOUR OWN POWER.

There would be no change if everyone cowered in their corners with fear.

And before someone asks, folks, I'm 22


am quoting this wholly as it bears repeating... the more we give in to the illusion and fear that is being created, the more lost we become...

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“Believe none of what you hear and half of what you see.” B.Franklin

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littlecloud
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posted February 02, 2011 07:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for littlecloud     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Katatonic- I truly envy the fact that you had such an extraordinary history teacher at such a young age.

We should all follow the money trail and see where it leads. All the tax dollars that go AIPAC. We all need to ask ourselves "Who benefits?"

PlutoSquared- I understand where you are coming from and I do agree that Katatonic has the right idea with what she said. Yes I have known evil. I have stared it in the face and I was petrified. I still fight it every day. Now I fight my urges for revenge, I fight to rise above it.

Frozen Queen-

There's a quote by some president I believe (I need to research it some more) that says something very close to: "We will have achieved our goal once the public believes everything they see and hear in the newspapers and on television. The opposite of the truth."

"We are grateful to The Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But, the work is now much more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national autodetermination practiced in past centuries."

David Rockefeller, founder of the Trilateral Commission, in an address to a meeting of The Trilateral Commission, in June, 1991.

"The idea was that those who direct the overall conspiracy could use the differences in those two so-called ideologies [marxism/fascism/socialism v. democracy/capitalism] to enable them [the Illuminati] to divide larger and larger portions of the human race into opposing camps so that they could be armed and then brainwashed into fighting and destroying each other."

Myron Fagan

http://www.preferrednetwork.com/NWO_QUOTES.htm
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Illuminati/quotes_on_the_new_wor ld_order.htm

The idea and plan is to set us all up against each other, poison us, and bring us to such desperation that we will be BEGGING for the NWO. One of these ways is to make us believe we have nothing to fight for.

This is what it comes down to:

"No one will enter the New World Order unless he or she will make a pledge to worship Lucifer. No one will enter the New Age unless he will take a Luciferian Initiation."

David Spangler, Director of Planetary Initiative, United Nations

This is what they are planning: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3zSDdm-SHI

I truly believe that people coming together is the answer. I believe that this is the message that Jesus Christ was trying to give us. I don't trust religions fully. I think they all have been infiltrated and flawed to an extent. However all we need to do is drop our prejudices and open our minds to what the essential message is. Being blinded is all part of the plan to get people to fight amongst themselves, to distract us from the real truth to "divide and conquer" us. Which they have accomplished. Just look at the world around us. Look at history. This was one of the reasons behind every war. It leaves less work for the Illuminati.

The reasons why president/political leaders/prime minister or what have you, don't do anything is because they are ALL part of the Illuminati. The voting machines are rigged so that no matter how many people vote the outcome will be in favor of who THEY planned to become the next president. The reason why a majority of celebrities and people in the public eye are where they are is because they are the Illuminati/Freemasons. They are even here http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum21/HTML/000226.html
I can forgive ignorance out of innocence and not knowing better, but I cannot forgive those who know what they are doing and continue to do it. I cannot forgive those that choose to be ignorant, I can only pity them.

PlutoSquared my bone to pick with you is the fact that you say we can't defeat this evil. I am sorry you feel this way because you have just allowed those in power to stay there. This is what they want you to feel because it makes it easier for them.

I am skeptical about the Zeitgeist movie, for the first thing we are told in this movie is that there is no God. The other thing that unsettles me is the narrators voice, it's hypnotic. Which makes me wonder what message is it really trying to send. I believe it is a message of hopelessness, which I am sure has reached many people. When people have nothing to believe in, they feel have nothing to fight for. For some this may be God.

The idea of hopelessness and not having something to believe in trickles down to everything around us. It's one that I refuse to believe simply because I can't. I won't. Because it is not in my best interest to do so. Therefore I cannot and WILL not lay down and say "we can't do anything."

They have been planning this for a MILLENNIA. This makes me incredibly sad. The emptiness of the bleak future I see claws at my insides and I am left feeling as strong as an eggshell. It also makes me incredibly furious. So I REFUSE to live on my knees. I will join the many that have been persecuted and died over that millennia in an effort to make the plans of the Illuminati known. I will not forget the reasons they fought. I will not let them to have died in vain. I WILL stand on my feet even if I am the ONLY one. I will shout about this to the world no matter how many deaf ears it falls on. Just to prolong their plans by that one second it will take for them to kill me.

They may take my body but they will never have my spirit.

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Randall
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posted February 03, 2011 10:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting.

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katatonic
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posted February 06, 2011 01:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
littlecloud where does that quote of david rockefeller come from?

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katatonic
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posted February 07, 2011 05:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
bump for littlecloud, where are you? i would love to know if that is a direct quote and who heard him say it and reported it...?

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littlecloud
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posted February 07, 2011 07:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for littlecloud     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VW6zjNDt8HQ

proof

Katatonic- I should have the link posted from where I found it.

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