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katatonic
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posted December 16, 2010 01:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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jwhop
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posted December 16, 2010 02:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hahaha, the far left is attempting to pass Espionage off as "Free Speech"

That's not going to fly.

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posted December 16, 2010 02:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AbsintheDragonfly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Rolling Stone is the far left????

OH NOES!!!!

*wanders off muttering about where is she going to get her entertainment news now???*

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posted December 16, 2010 02:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AbsintheDragonfly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jwhop if you don't settle down, I won't be able to eat the cookies with you

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posted December 16, 2010 04:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i thought you would have known THAT, abs, they HAVE to be far left, they interviewed obama, didn't they? and gave him a fair hearing?

and they think the tea baggers might be a bit "off" too. MUST be FAR FAR FAR left, doncha know?

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posted December 22, 2010 06:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quinnie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I haven't read the other posts but Bradley Manning is a hero and Julian Assange is doing his job as an investigative journalist.
All this espionage stuff is complete Mickey Mouse nonsense. Honestly Jwhop you love the drama!

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posted December 22, 2010 06:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BearsArcher     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bradley Manning is a disturbed young man that was angry at his own sexual orientation not being accepted from the time he was a kid in school. He was further angry over the fact that his boyfriend dumped him and his own behavior got him into trouble and resulted in a demotion.

he DID not do what he did with the intent of helping others or shining a light on atrocities. He did it with malicious intent and Assange took that intent to the extremes.

Then again Quinnie, some people thought Hitler was a hero and we all know how that ended don't we.

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posted December 22, 2010 06:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quinnie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bears...I don't think that is an apt comparison in any way.... Bush or Blair and Hitler yes, but Manning and Hitler...NO

So you know this guy personally do you? You accept the information or character assassination from a 3rd party do you?
I knew you had to be American...Too much trust in your government and the information they give you!

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posted December 22, 2010 07:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BearsArcher     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Manning commited treason. I do have more insight into his story than most people do. Maybe you should read through this thread to get an idea of how I would know more than the average person instead of spouting off like some Anti-American know it all.

You already gave away your ignorance when you stated you had not read through this thread.

Am I an American? Yep. Am I proud? Yep, especially after living overseas for a few years and my husband being stationed overseas for more than 12 years plus 3 deployments. I would say we have a better understanding of events than most people.

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posted December 22, 2010 08:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quinnie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
By spouting off? Do you mean that you don't like that I challenged your sources?
Yes I'm anti-American and proud!!!

As a human being all I can see is the suffering of people BECAUSE of an illegal war. People will be killed regardless... Information leaking will put lives at risk but so will the continuation of war crimes.
The military (worldwide) is using Bulling tactics.
I will not accept your information just because it comes from official sources. They are the very sources I trust least of all.

As to Manning committing treason, how did he get access to the information in the first place? If soldiers are at risk, then why don't they get them out of the country they are stationed in and into safety?
He also leaked war crimes which means that he is a whistle blower, and to some a hero.

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posted December 23, 2010 01:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
WTF? OMG, LOL! CIA gives WikiLeaks taskforce naughty name
US spy agency forms taskforce to assess fallout from 250,000 leaked US cables
Adam Gabbatt
Wednesday 22 December 2010 10.27 GMT

The CIA has launched a taskforce to assess the impact of 250,000 leaked US diplomatic cables. Its name? WikiLeaks Task Force, or WTF for short.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/dec/22/cia-wikileaks-taskforce-wtf

No cookies for Julian Assange!

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AbsintheDragonfly
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posted December 23, 2010 08:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AbsintheDragonfly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Someone didn't check their internet memes before deciding on an name....


On a more serious note, Blessed Boomtime, The Aftermath 65, YOLD 3176 to you all!

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posted December 23, 2010 08:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AbsintheDragonfly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What if people had argued that because the Pentagon Papers hadn't been published on a printing press with letter type, by hand, like the founding fathers would have used in their day, it wasn't journalism?

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posted December 23, 2010 02:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AbsintheDragonfly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting article regarding this issue...
http://www.webstock.org.nz/blog/2010/the-blast-shack/

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posted December 23, 2010 05:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well we know the founding fathers were considered traitors in their day..

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posted December 23, 2010 05:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted December 23, 2010 07:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quinnie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Absinth!

Thanks for that article! I got a very real sensation of how underground dudes like Assange feel..... The only tell-tale motivation I get from him is when he said in the 'war you don't see';..... "I like crushing bast**ds"

It gives real insight into the mind of Mannings and how this whole situation came about!

So thankful for that!

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posted December 27, 2010 12:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The newest leftist hero...and as is usual in leftist circles, he's being abused and tortured by the worldwide oppressor....the United States of America. The very same United States of America which is the main enemy of leftists everywhere...including those who claim to be Americans, but who are in reality merely "accidential Americans".

The New Mumia
By Jed Babbin on 12.27.10 @ 6:09AM

The left has found a new face for the "injustice" committed in America's name: Pfc. Bradley Manning, the Army private alleged to have provided WikiLeaks with hundreds of thousands of State and Defense Department classified e-mails. Manning is now the focus of a campaign that accuses his jailers of torture.

Liberal core values -- to the extent that liberals have any values at all -- proceed from two assumptions. First, that American criminal law must be unjust because people are not prosecuted -- or protected -- on the basis of their political beliefs. Second only to that, is that America -- and by derivation, its secrets -- are not worthy of defense.........

http://spectator.org/archives/2010/12/27/the-new-mumia

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posted December 27, 2010 12:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted December 27, 2010 03:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BearsArcher     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Quinnie:
By spouting off? Do you mean that you don't like that I challenged your sources?
Yes I'm anti-American and proud!!!

As a human being all I can see is the suffering of people BECAUSE of an illegal war. People will be killed regardless... Information leaking will put lives at risk but so will the continuation of war crimes.
The military (worldwide) is using Bulling tactics.
I will not accept your information just because it comes from official sources. They are the very sources I trust least of all.

As to Manning committing treason, how did he get access to the information in the first place? If soldiers are at risk, then why don't they get them out of the country they are stationed in and into safety?
He also leaked war crimes which means that he is a whistle blower, and to some a hero.


It would be much easier to debate with you if you weren't so ignorant to the facts. Since you have failed to read the thread and have not done one iota of research I will not waste my time on you.

Good luck with keeping your anti-American head in the sand. At least we know the kind of person you are and where you stand. How pitiful that the American's here think you are still worth posting to although you harbor such hatred for our country.

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posted December 27, 2010 04:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BearsArcher     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In case you missed this on the new thread I posted..

Quinnie- this is especially for you
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZrqdZFFb5c

I like this one too:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGwtG8nVpUU

Oh and this one (language warning)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1B-C973Vuc&feature=related

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posted December 27, 2010 07:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AbsintheDragonfly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

That was just so over the top I couldn't help but laugh!

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posted December 27, 2010 07:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BearsArcher     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They had cute ones about conservatives too

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posted December 28, 2010 08:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quinnie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bears
hmmm...I DID read ALLL the way through the posts on this thread before I posted again... and still fail to see how your posts represent the whole truth, and nothing BUTT!!

I would like to point out that as I am not American, I am neither a Republican or Democrat, so I fail also to see why you would direct the first youtube vid at me but hey...thanks anyway.

People repsond to my posts because I have a right to an opinion and for my opinions, alternative views/perspectives to be heard.

I would also like to see the "cute" conservative videos because I can't imagine!!!!!!! a cute conservative, unless the video happens to be x-rated

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posted December 28, 2010 08:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BearsArcher     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I never said you didn't have a right to respond. I also never said you weren't entitled to your Anti-American views. What I did say is that I am surprised at the Americans that actually support you or discuss matters with you when you think so low of us and our country.


As to the videos- you don't have to be an American or a part of our political system to not understand the nature of the videos I posted.

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