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Topic: Patriot Act up for renewal
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littlecloud
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posted January 20, 2011 11:10 AM
  
http://act.demandprogress.org/sign/patriotact/?akid=113.328528.xi6rX0&rd=1&t=2 IP: Logged |
jwhop
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posted January 20, 2011 12:09 PM
"They let government officials spy on whomever they want, for any reason, without ever letting them know or giving them a chance to challenge the order in court."I just love this kind of hyperbole!  Anyone, anywhere for any reason. Ummm, can you supply a single good reason for telling terrorists the government is spying on them?
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littlecloud
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posted January 20, 2011 01:34 PM
The true terrorist is the government.IP: Logged |
jwhop
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posted January 21, 2011 10:37 PM
Ummm littlecloud, what acts of terrorism has the US government committed?IP: Logged |
littlecloud
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posted January 22, 2011 10:53 AM
Lying.IP: Logged |
jwhop
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posted January 22, 2011 11:12 AM
Lying littlecloud?You mean...as in...?? "I can make a firm pledge. Under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase. Not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes” (September 12, 2008, Dover, NH)...Barack O'Bomber You mean...as in?? "And, absolutely, we need earmark reform. And when I'm president, I will go line by line to make sure that we are not spending money unwisely.” (Sept. 26, 2008. First Presidential Debate, Oxford, Miss.)...Barack O'Bomber You mean...as in?? "lobbyists won't find a job in my White House."...Barack O'Bomber So littlecloud, what should be done about Barack O'Bomber for these "acts of terrorism"?  IP: Logged |
katatonic
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posted January 22, 2011 12:41 PM
jwhop please cite which taxes have been raised?IP: Logged |
littlecloud
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posted January 22, 2011 01:46 PM
I second Kat's request.As for Mr. President, he should be attached to one of those jet-packs that you see in cartoons, shot off into the sky, to fall splat on the ground and then have one of those "Acme" anvils fall on his head. IP: Logged |
jwhop
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posted January 22, 2011 02:14 PM
"The final medical reform legislation included an “individual mandate’’ compelling people to pay for some form of health insurance. In an seminal interview George Stephanopoulos challenged President Obama on whether this mandate constituted, in effect, a tax increase on those at all income levels, including those making less than $250,000. Here is the exchange: STEPHANOPOULOS: That may be, but it’s still a tax increase. OBAMA: No. That’s not true, George. The — for us to say that you’ve got to take a responsibility to get health insurance is absolutely not a tax increase… Recently, there have been a number of suits challenging the constitutionality of the individual mandate. The Administration has now argued in court that the mandate is essentially an exercise of Congress’s power to tax."
http://fmonaldo.wordpress.com/2011/01/02/keep-your-hands-off-my-social-security/ WASHINGTON (AP) - One of President Barack Obama's campaign pledges on taxes went up in puffs of smoke Wednesday.
The largest increase in tobacco taxes took effect despite Obama's promise not to raise taxes of any kind on families earning under $250,000 or individuals under $200,000. This is one tax that disproportionately affects the poor, who are more likely to smoke than the rich.... The latest increase in the federal tax is by far the largest since its introduction in 1951, when it was 8 cents a pack. It's gone up six times since, each time by no more than a dime, until now.
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D979POSG0&show_article=1 Today the first of President Barack Obama's 21 tax hikes to pay for his massively expensive health care law takes effect, levying a 10 percent tax on tanning salons.
http://spectator.org/archives/2010/07/01/obama-and-snooki
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Quinnie
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posted January 22, 2011 05:05 PM
"Ummm littlecloud, what acts of terrorism has the US government committed?"
............................................Eh Jwhop!!!
2 words for ya... Federal Reserve IP: Logged |
katatonic
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posted January 22, 2011 06:08 PM
how bout taking part in or supporting the overthrow of SEVERAl other countries govts? for instance, going into IRAQ and insisting that they take up a democratic way of govt if not life? guatemala, how many others?IP: Logged |
Quinnie
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posted January 22, 2011 06:11 PM
Illegal wars....eh one that comes to mind is the war on Iraq... reasoning...biological weapons of mass destruction...IP: Logged |
Quinnie
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posted January 22, 2011 06:16 PM
Sorry kat we seem to have said the same thing in a roundabout way..........What about Mind-control would that be counted as an act of terrorism...Mk-Ultra for example IP: Logged |
katatonic
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posted January 23, 2011 02:12 PM
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iQ
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posted January 24, 2011 06:09 AM
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What acts of terrorism has the US government committed
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To many against other nations, like supporting Arab Dictators for the sake of Oil Security but the biggest acts of US Government terrorism against American People have to be:1. Fluoridization of drinking water supply. 2. GM Foods led by Monsanto 3. Chemtrails and Testing drugs on the populace [including US Soldiers] without their awareness. This includes the MK-Ultra Program. Probably in a few years the BP Disaster and coverup of the gas/toxic chemical buildup in the Gulf Coast will be added to the list. FDA interfering with Natural Food and Vitamins is likely to be number 5. IP: Logged |
littlecloud
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posted January 24, 2011 11:43 AM
IQ 
It's nice to hear others say it.IP: Logged |
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