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littlecloud
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posted January 29, 2011 06:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for littlecloud     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sign the petition to oppose the internet kill switch.
http://act.demandprogress.org/act/killswitch/?referring_akid=138.328528.Vqr1Jo&source=auto-e

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posted January 30, 2011 06:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quinnie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is this for real?
So they couldn't see things like Wikileaks as being inevitable when the internet was first introduced?
Scary stuff!

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posted January 30, 2011 08:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Of course, Egypt has currently flipped it`s switch but it would not be as easy for a complete U.S. shut down. Egypt only has 4 ISP`s so it was quick and easy.
The United States is much more complicated:



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The U.S. telecommunication industry is much more complex and far more decentralized. To do something similar in the U.S. would require a lot more than four phone calls. There are simply too many connections inside the nation already for them to be silenced. Also, since our economy is more dependent on the Internet obstructing the free flow of information would be disastrous. Still, the push for a U.S. Internet Kill Switch is here, but no one understands the consequences.

The fact is, no one in the U.S. should ever have the right or the ability to take the Internet offline. As an editor of a purely online publication (we made the switch from print a few years ago), it's very clear to me that freedom of the press relies more than ever on the Internet. No one in the U.S.—or anywhere—should have the right to shut it down.


http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2376905,00.asp

Any how, do tell the proposers, Joseph Lieberman and Susan Collins along with the Senate NO

Thanks littlecloud

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posted January 30, 2011 09:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for littlecloud     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Np

It's a clear violation of the 1st Amendment. I start questioning anything that tells me I'm not allowed to question it.

Quinnie- I honestly think it goes much deeper than that. I think they could not only foresee it but wanted it to happen. Because it would then allow them to implement more laws and regulations to "protect" us against "terrorism" consequently leading us to wear blinders to everything around us. Not only that but after being bombarded with technology everyday something like this would drastically change human life. Especially in a country like America. Technology affects so much of our daily lives that many people wouldn't be able to survive without it even though I'm sure our physical selves can absolutely survive so much. It comes down to manipulation of the mind which is the most powerful weapon a person has.

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posted January 30, 2011 10:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It comes down to manipulation of the mind which is the most powerful weapon a person has.


I agree with the statement, but would you explain how the kill switch is mind control?

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posted January 30, 2011 12:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quinnie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Littlecloud those are the very views I have about the social structure in general. The more I learn about class and the evolution of the welfare/benefits system, the more confused I get about how it benefits anyone since there is a clear rabbit chasing a carrot on a string metaphor.

It makes sense that if the Federal Reserve was created in 1913, then followed several wars, whilst at the same time the development of congnitve behavioural therapy and mind control, then it amounts to mass control of land, body,mind and soul.
Mass mind control. Religious organisation which further establishes rituals that stimulate hypnosis...As the media, rituals of any kind (like slave labour)... distract the conscious mind from it's logic and discernment and induces hypnosis. This was all discovered and developed prior to any of the world wars.. Coincidence?

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posted January 30, 2011 12:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for littlecloud     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Quinnie- I don't believe in coincidence.

Juni- One way is the reason they would say was the cause to activate the Kill Switch. This would cut off alternate ways of watching the news. Whether from a website or even speaking to someone overseas via email, skype, or forums like this one. It would funnel where we get our information about the world to TV/radio. Therefore controlling what information we are exposed to. In the end making people so desperate that they will accept anything else other than the hell they have been living in.

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posted January 30, 2011 01:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for explaining

Still, there would be telephones, newspapers and carrier pigeon

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posted January 31, 2011 03:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They can still do something akin to a kill switch by just taking Facebook, Yahoo and MSN offline. Just one yell from the Government will make the Zuckerbergs and Yangs pee in their pants, for they have supped with the devil and his private equity investments.

This is why all of us must have alternate connectivity set up. Diaspora for instance for social networking.

We must also explore Ham Radio based connectivity and even protocols that can connect through Linux ISPs in underground Scandinavian and Swiss Servers. Japanese geeks might cooperate too.

Old School technology cannot be damaged much. AM, FM, Vaccuum Tubes, HAM Radio... and ultimately T E L E P A T H Y.

I am betting big on telepathic and telekinetic skills getting activated in the minds of all those born with Pluto in Sagittarius and younger with the coming Galactic Alignments. This is also my prayer to the very Core of God's Mind and Soul.

I would love to see little star seed kids melt the tanks and nukes and all physical weapons of war ordered by old Senators or old Generals worldwide. Ahimsa at its best.
We "not so evolved" seniors will ensure that no mind controlled soldiers attempt hand to hand combat with the kids. Better to be bashed up by tax paying citizens than get melted...

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posted January 31, 2011 06:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quinnie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
IQ,
I think that it is extremely important as parents to know our place as protectors and defenders and what that entails exactly. How to keep our children's mind's from being intoxicated as much as we can etc.

Thanks for the online tips!

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posted January 31, 2011 06:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here you go Quinnie, I found 2 nerdier geeks have already done their duty

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Does your government have an Internet kill-switch? Read our guide to Guerrilla Networking and be prepared for when the lines get cut.

By Patrick Miller, David Daw, PCWorld Jan 29, 2011 12:50 am | PCWorld

These days, no popular movement goes without an Internet presence of some kind, whether it’s organizing on Facebook or spreading the word through Twitter. And as we’ve seen in Egypt, that means that your Internet connection can be the first to go. Whether you’re trying to check in with your family, contact your friends, or simply spread the word, here are a few ways to build some basic network connectivity when you can’t rely on your cellular or landline Internet connections.

Do-It-Yourself Internet With Ad-Hoc Wi-Fi

Even if you’ve managed to find an Internet connection for yourself, it won’t be that helpful in reaching out to your fellow locals if they can’t get online to find you. If you’re trying to coordinate a group of people in your area and can’t rely on an Internet connection, cell phones, or SMS, your best bet could be a wireless mesh network of sorts–essentially, a distributed network of wireless networking devices that can all find each other and communicate with each other. Even if none of those devices have a working Internet connection, they can still find each other, which, if your network covers the city you’re in, might be all you need. At the moment, wireless mesh networking isn’t really anywhere close to market-ready, though we have seen an implementation of the 802.11s draft standard, which extends the 802.11 Wi-Fi standard to include wireless mesh networking, in the One Laptop Per Child (OLPC) XO laptop.

However, a prepared guerrilla networker with a handful of PCs could make good use of Daihinia ($25, 30-day free trial), an app that piggybacks on your Wi-Fi adapter driver to turn your normal ad-hoc Wi-Fi network into a multihop ad-hoc network (disclaimer: we haven’t tried this ourselves yet), meaning that instead of requiring each device on the network to be within range of the original access point, you simply need to be within range of a device on the network that has Daihinia installed, effectively allowing you to add a wireless mesh layer to your ad-hoc network.

Advanced freedom fighters can set up a portal Web page on their network that explains the way the setup works, with Daihinia instructions and a local download link so they can spread the network even further. Lastly, just add a Bonjour-compatible chat client like Pidgin or iChat, and you’ll be able to talk to your neighbors across the city without needing an Internet connection.

Back to Basics:

Remember when you stashed your old modems in the closet because you thought you might need them some day? In the event of a total communications blackout–as we’re seeing in Egypt, for example–you’ll be glad you did. Older and simpler tools, like dial-up Internet or even ham radio, could still work, since these “abandoned” tech avenues aren’t being policed nearly as hard.

In order to get around the total shutdown of all of the ISPs within Egypt, several international ISPs are offering dial-up access to the Internet to get protesters online, since phone service is still operational. It’s slow, but it still works–the hard part is getting the access numbers without an Internet connection to find them.

Unfortunately, such dial-up numbers can also be fairly easily shut down by the Egyptian government, so you could also try returning to FidoNet–a distributed networking system for BBSes that was popular in the 1980s. FidoNet is limited to sending only simple text messages, and it’s slow, but it has two virtues: Users connect asynchronously, so the network traffic is harder to track, and any user can act as the server, which means that even if the government shuts down one number in the network, another one can quickly pop up to take its place.

You could also take inspiration from groups that are working to create an ad-hoc communications network into and out of Egypt using Ham Radio, since the signals are rarely tracked and extremely hard to shut down or block. Most of these efforts are still getting off the ground, but hackers are already cobbling together ways to make it a viable form of communication into and out of the country.
Always Be Prepared

In the land of no Internet connection, the man with dial-up is king. Here are a few gadgets that you could use to prepare for the day they cut the lines.

Given enough time and preparation, your ham radio networks could even be adapted into your own ad-hoc network using Packet Radio, a radio communications protocol that you can use to create simple long-distance wireless networks to transfer text and other messages between computers. Packet Radio is rather slow and not particularly popular (don’t try to stream any videos with this, now), but it’s exactly the kind of networking device that would fly under the radar.

In response to the crisis in Egypt, nerds everywhere have risen to call for new and exciting tools for use in the next government-mandated shutdown. Bre Pettis, founder of the hackerspace NYC Resistor and creator of the Makerbot 3D printer, has called for “Apps for the Appocalypse,” including a quick and easy way to set up chats on a local network so you can talk with your friends and neighbors in an emergency even without access to the Internet. If his comments are any indication, Appocalypse apps may be headed your way soon.

Tons of cool tech are also just waiting to be retrofitted for these purposes. David Dart’s Pirate Box is a one-step local network in a box originally conceived for file sharing and local P2P purposes, but it wouldn’t take much work to adapt the Pirate Box as a local networking tool able to communicate with other pirate boxes to form a compact, mobile set of local networks in the event of an Internet shutdown.

Whether you’re in Egypt or Eagle Rock, you rely on your Internet access to stay in touch with friends and family, get your news, and find information you need. (And read PCWorld, of course.) Hopefully with these apps, tools, and techniques, you won’t have to worry about anyone–even your government–keeping you from doing just that.

Patrick Miller hopes he isn’t first against the wall when the revolution comes. Find him on Twitter or Facebook–if you have a working Internet connection, anyway.

David Daw is an accidental expert in ad-hoc networks since his apartment gets no cell reception. Find him on Twitter or send him a ham radio signal.
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posted January 31, 2011 07:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quinnie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Awesome IQ
Thnak you!

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posted January 31, 2011 10:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am also hoping a tool is made to convert text to Morse Code and transfer the signal via USB device connected to a homemade Telegraph Transmitter to a private citizens grid of similar PCs with Telegraph Receivers hooked to a USB interface that can receive the message and keep forwarding. Cities that have not been clamped down can then display these on Giant LED Screens or Stadiums from where independent TV Channels can broadcast the messages of the captured/repressed people.

We must learn to build, fix and operate our own Telegraph Devices. 1832 Technology, still viable and impossible to repress

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posted January 31, 2011 03:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for littlecloud     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There's something to be said about those old-cronies

I don't know why but I've been feeling this incredible surge of hope lately.

I've read Pluto Scorpions might have to re-populate the earth some day..thoughts on this?

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posted January 31, 2011 04:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, this Old Cronie still has dial up and Dad`s old CB radio in the attic rafters. Guess all I need is a carrier pigeon & I`m in business!

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posted January 31, 2011 04:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We all need CBs for when the zombies take over.

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posted February 04, 2011 06:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
At least if they shut down the Internet that would mean there's a possibility for their heads to start rolling, cos they'd have to be afraid.
I'd just grab a bowl of popcorn and smile.
I'm gonna love it when Uranus goes back into Aries

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