posted February 26, 2011 01:17 AM            

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Originally posted by jwhop:
[QUOTE]Exactly!
ive been through some comments here on this forum...and the fact that i like obama..for all that he is...and the fact that i dont like few other politicians for all that they are..without any sort of personal grudge or partiality..my reasoning being rational on all accounts... though im not that politically inclined makes me wonder...how nobody here has not tried to prove or rather noted the point that jwhop so diligently keeps nagging about so called
'O BOMBER' being the(When i heard that kind of name calling i was aghast)
ULTIMATE SKUNK..and the people who even try to represent him are subject to endure demeaning and derogatory words...

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Deal?[/QUOTE]

JWHOP your deal reminded me of this quote

"Show me a young Conservative and I'll show you someone with no heart.
Show me an old Liberal and I'll show you someone with no brains."
Winston Churchill.

What do you want to prove to me jwhop?

'O BOMBER'???!....who is that?? I dont know who it is in the first place....
I only know Barrack Obama.
Why should I of all the people...katakonic, mblake, acoustic god, glaucus
and may others who know you very well here..make a deal with you...?
Ask them for a deal if you r interested in making deals which im not.
you dont have to try to teach me about winning statistics.
jwhop...id rather prefer to lose a bet than to win one standing on the wrong side!
nobody is even trying to change your ideas jwhop...
so why take the challenge...you will eventually win.. you know that very well.
And i have enough humility to not be ashamed of being called a loser.

"Good people do not need laws to tell them to act responsibly,
while bad people will find a way around the laws."
- Plato (427-347 B.C.)

posted February 26, 2011 02:51 AM            

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Originally posted by littlecloud:
Firstly women won the right to vote for two reasons 1) to be taxed 2) to break up families. I bet this is why black people got the right to vote as well. This just speculation I don't have proof just my own deductive reasoning. I am not saying that I am pro-slavery and that I hate black people or some stupid **** like that. I'm just saying that these wonderful things we look at in history are very darkly tainted.

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Your very statement above about womens voting rights shows that you are a CHAUVINIST ..shows true colours behind suppression and domestic violence of women.
Accepted that men are physically and mentally strong but that has nothing to do with women being accused of
BEING HIGHLY UNINTELLECTUAL!
No wonder people like you dont mind treating a WOMAN like SCUM.I can say without hesitation that objectivity and free will were discouraged at all cost by people like you.Women were told that they were indentured servants and that the only difference between housewives and slaves of the old south was the manner by which they had been purchased!

“If the rights of society’s most vulnerable members are denied, everybody’s rights are imperiled.”

Neither men nor women are responsible for breaking or rebuilding families or societies!Just because they oppose to being enslaved by oppressing men and they believe that all men are equal which inclues blacks as well.
FEMINISM has become one of the pillars of Modern Society.
The world never needed feminism but the power brokers did. The socialist and one world-ers had to have this turmoil in order to further break down families.
power brokers being cultural marxism in capitalist and postmodern society.

posted February 26, 2011 08:07 AM            

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Originally posted by rajji:
Your very statement above about womens voting rights shows that you are a CHAUVINIST ..shows true colours behind suppression and domestic violence of women.
Accepted that men are physically and mentally strong but that has nothing to do with women being accused of
BEING HIGHLY UNINTELLECTUAL!
No wonder people like you dont mind treating a WOMAN like SCUM.I can say without hesitation that objectivity and free will were discouraged at all cost by people like you.Women were told that they were indentured servants and that the only difference between housewives and slaves of the old south was the manner by which they had been purchased!

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I AM a woman!! And no I am no chauvinist. I believe that all beings (not just people) are equal. We all have our needs and our contributions in nature. A woman cannot survive without a man and a man cannot survive without a woman. For one they cannot procreate on their own. I would love to seem them try. There are things women are better at, and there are things men are better at. It's just nature. I absolutely think that women (and blacks for that matter) should have the right to vote, after all we are all people. We all breathe the same air, drink the same water, and **** the same smelly **** . I just don't agree with the reasons why they/we were allowed to do these things. I mean these things of "creating"(which we all were to begin with) equality where done on purpose to create this socialist state. That is what I disagree with, the dishonesty of the action. Intention means a lot. When someone does something with bad intention behind it the action is tainted no matter which way you spin it.

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Originally posted by rajji:
The world never needed feminism but the power brokers did. The socialist and one world-ers had to have this turmoil in order to further break down families.
power brokers being cultural marxism in capitalist and postmodern society.

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This is exactly what I was saying, or at least trying to, on that note I apologize for not being clear. This is what makes me angry about women's suffrage. That it was done to tear apart families, to tax more people, to indebt a nation even further, to create this socialist country with the people still under the notion that it's free INSTEAD of the reason that should have been behind it, true equality. Not because equality is granted by the government but because it is our RIGHT by God, by nature.

On a side note I do my best to treat everything equally, even snails. When I'm gardening I do my best not to step on them and put them near trees under rocks where they like to go. Even lady bugs, I'll take them and put them on a flower. Still think I'm a chauvinist and I treat people like scum?

posted February 26, 2011 09:40 AM            

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Originally posted by littlecloud:
you still don't like me, huh?

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LOL...baby..i Like everybody here on LL including you little cloud..everybody is different in their own unique way..and hence I value and respect others free will of choice as much as mine.

posted February 26, 2011 10:13 AM            

Well rajji, I've already tried to make a deal with our "accidental Americans" to immigrate to their ideal mecca...as well as some from other nations who think O'Bomber is better than sliced bread...but, no takers.

Since your "Long Live O'Bomber" comment, I thought you would be overjoyed to take O'Bomber and the Socialists in Congress off our hands.

Think of it rajji. What a coup, what a triumph that would be! Then, O'Bomber and the congressional Socialists could do for some other deserving nation what they've done for America. Real unemployment and under-employment..the U6 number, approaching 20%. 14 Trillion dollars in debt...5 Trillion since the congressional Socialists took control of the House and Senate in 2007 as well as 1.5 Trillion dollar budget deficits as far into the future as can be seen. Not to mention attempts to radically and fundamentally alter America. Hey, I haven't even mentioned skyrocketing energy prices so let's include that. Let's also include cramming Socialist health care down America's throat.

I'm really puzzled rajji. How could you pass all that up? All those professional whiners and shrirkers in exchange for just one, (1) person who is already, in their minds and being, a "Real American".

What rajji? Is the deal not sweet enough for you?

How about if I also throw into the mix other "accidential Americans" at move on, puffington Post, demoscat underground, media matters, union bosses and George Soros?

I feel sure there's a deal to made here rajji.

Btw, that's Barack...not Barrack O'Bomber

posted February 26, 2011 11:21 AM            

After all, you all voted him in. Part of the same sport just different teams.

Letting live is not the same as what you are thinking, as in supporting obama, his policies, democrats or republicans.

Again I have to ask why one party is better than the other?

On who's authority is it so deemed that one is better than the other?

God?

Why would god love one party more than another?

Why would god choose one country over another if he is the creator of all that is.

People are this petty and base, And they try to attribute this to god or gods will.

I only hope one day these people wise up and realize what they are really doing.

However on the flip side.

You could say it is gods will afterall. If the engine of the universe is the interplay between negative and positive then this all makes perfect sense and so does your motives in believing in this.

So you are doing nothing wrong.

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It is just whatever side of the fence I wanna take.

posted February 26, 2011 11:30 AM            

on the other hand, someone like myself, who has been acquainted firsthand with other lands, and returned, cannot be classified as an ACCIDENTAL american. you are here by accident of birth. i chose to be here rather than somewhere else.

and your continued insistence that obama created the recession is just plain hogwash. these things go in cycles, and a book i read TEN years ago predicted we would be right where we are now. no one person or administration has caused it any more than any one factor creating "global warming".

posted February 26, 2011 11:37 AM            

but apart from procreation your belief that women and men cannot survive on their own is proven wrong over and over by women who have been left - or chosen - to do just that rather than live in abusive conditions.

feminism was about choice, not about superiority or the desire to be men. though there certainly are feminists who are driven by resentment and envy, the majority never really were. in some of our states even now a husband cannot(or will not) be convicted of raping his wife even if that is what he has done. is this worth preserving? does it strengthen families?

posted February 26, 2011 11:45 AM            

Who said God had anything to do with it...except you?

Perhaps you have nothing against letting O'Bomber and his Socialist comrades in Congress run rough shod over American law, the Constitution, American traditions, institutions and common sense but that's the minority view in America.

We couldn't wait until the day November 2nd, 2010 arrived. That's the day we threw many of O'Bomber's enablers in Marxist political and economic policies out on their sorry as$es.

November 6, 2012 looms on O'Bomber's horizon...as well as some more of his comrades in arms who attempted to turn America upside down.

posted February 26, 2011 12:06 PM            

But I do not care about politicians like this.

I do not understand your meaning?

I am not trying to be an ass, I seriously do not know why you said that, that way.

I appreciate bluntness.

But this has left me feeling confused as to why?

posted February 26, 2011 12:09 PM            

Yeah katatonic, I have you firmly in the "citizen of the world" camp.

Well, that's right katatonic. I'm happy in the United States. It's the "accidental Americans"..."citizens of the world" who are the whiners, screechers and foot stomping shrieking leftists who have nothing good to say about the United States...and would be much happier somewhere else. Happier, because we're not going to change America to suit their leftist delusions.

Oh, you mean the freedom to die on a waiting list waiting for medical treatment? Or perhaps the freedom to pull their own teeth or deliver their own babies in the parking lot of some Socialist run hospital? Or perhaps you mean the freedom to die in one of the Socialist run hospitals after some Socialist bureaucrat has decided to withhold food, water and any medical treatment to help them along...against their will and against the will of their relatives?

posted February 26, 2011 12:09 PM            

I really do not understand.

Did you feel threatened by me or something crazy like that?

posted February 26, 2011 12:12 PM            

Who said God had anything to do with it...except you?"

Thanks.

But under that same token, You happen to find me incorherant, That is fine.

But I am sure some other people do not.

So your judgement of me is not final or all inclusive.

Just your opinion about it, just like I have one about politics.

posted February 26, 2011 12:20 PM            

Gee, maybe I didn't make myself clear Mblake81.

Let me try again.

I don't give a rat's ass what you think about the American political system.

Now Mblake81, don't you have any "problems" in your own country which need your attention?

If you can't find any, just tell me where you are...or where you're from and I'll find some for you to tackle.

"Did you feel threatened by me or something crazy like that?"...Mblake81

posted February 26, 2011 12:32 PM            

Bible Belt

Country

RED REPUBLICAN STATE.

So go ahead, I just gave you bullets, Fire away.

posted February 26, 2011 12:48 PM            

Please tell me and the rest of the world.

Are you going to use the same system that is broken and has been broken?

Foot goes in the mouth, right here.

"If you can't find any, just tell me where you are...or where you're from and I'll find some for you to tackle"

And here

"Now Mblake81, don't you have any "problems" in your own country which need your attention?"

posted February 26, 2011 12:57 PM            

Politicans and clergy men use it all the damn time.

"God" or the idea of it, Is a major form of State Craft.

posted February 26, 2011 01:46 PM            

jesus christ.

Although I consider all religions and take looks at them.

I am not divided by having just one.

The same comes to politics.

posted February 26, 2011 01:49 PM            

Go my team.

Win my team.

Go my team.

That is how I observe you.

And you know what? Go enjoy watching your team defeat the other. Feel good about it too.

They are just defeating other americans if you wanna play it in a "box" like that.

You seem so happy americans lost, or perhaps you did not notice.

They lost just like the rest of the world has.

*A few people won.

But how does that outweigh the rest?

posted February 26, 2011 01:57 PM            

Or it could be that people have missed the boat on how all this connects.