posted April 09, 2011 08:33 AM            

I spent a good part of the day [I was off]
listening either to C-Span or other media, and talking to people about their opinions.

Every-one in my private poll said Gov would shut down. Everyone! And even the strangers said it in serious tones, with semi disgusted looks on their faces. I moved recently, still in MD- closer to D.C.....

ALL of the GOP Congresswomen were trotted out to say [that] they were totally behind the attack on Planned Parenthood.

Then all of the DEM ladies rebutted...and they were stoked with a hard line in the sand.

The riders that were attached to the bill had nothing to do with the budget, most of them were either societal, idealogical, or environmental. and included budget cuts that would undermine the economy, decreasing key investments and causing significant job loss.

Wankers the lot of them.

My OP?

If the right wing extremists were truly interested in the budget they would go after the Military Industrial Complex.
and energy.

The original House R proposal called for about $30 billion in spending cuts from the 2010 level. But the Tea Bagger-inspired revolt forced the Pubs to increase that total to $61 billion. Harry Reid agreed to $38 billion, Which was more than the original proposal!

posted April 09, 2011 09:32 AM            

Yep, this is getting old.

posted April 09, 2011 10:05 AM            

Leftist screeching, howling, whining and shrieking has reached new levels.

One brain dead moron congresswoman said Republicans were trying to kill women by cutting off funds to murder incorporated, Planned Parenthood which receives about $360,000,000 per year in federal taxpayer funds.

Gee, who knew Planned Parenthood is the only place in the United States where women can receive cancer screenings. I sure didn't know that.

So, all those poor women would have to go without if Republicans got their way. Who knew?

We always thought poor women were on Medicare and or Medicade and could go to most any doctor they choose. But no, we now have it on good authority that Planned Parenthood is the only provider in America and Republicans want to kill women by cutting off federal funding for murder incorporated.

Who knew?

Some have suggested that federal funding isn't really a "budget issue". I don't know where they're from but $360,000,000 in the federal budget qualifies as a budget item.

posted April 09, 2011 02:39 PM            

nor that the fed money is not allowed to go to abortions...

posted April 09, 2011 05:32 PM            

Thumbsup to what you wrote, Node.

Kat, yes i was referring to all of that. And the mainstream media in general. Can't even watch or read it anymore. I don't get sucked into it really, but they are playing on people's fears and trying to take everyone for a ride. Like juni said, all of this has gotten very old. They're like a bunch of children.

jwhop,

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Gee, who knew Planned Parenthood is the only place in the United States where women can receive cancer screenings. I sure didn't know that.

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Have to admit, I said the same thing. Let's get real.

But, like kat said, many can't afford other options.

posted April 10, 2011 12:17 PM            

Further, the women's health care issue as it relates to Planned Parenthood goes tilt too.

PP does no Mammograms, simply refers to other providers AND out of the more than 11,000,000 primary health cases for women annually, PP provided primary services for fewer than 20,000.

Further, there are city, county and state run health clinics across the country. Further still, there are around 1,000 federally funded clinics around the country. Anyone care to argue with me that those city, county, state and federally funded health clinics DON'T provide no cost or low cost health care for women?

April 10, 2011
Things Planned Parenthood's 'Truth Team' Forgot to Mention
By Susan E. Wills

Claim: "This is about women's health more than abortion" (Cecile Richards, PPFA President)

This was quoted by Jonathan Alter in a March 14 opinion piece posted on Bloomberg Opinion. But Congress already spends billions every year for women's health care, through Medicaid, Medicare and other programs. Defunding PPFA is about no longer coercing taxpayers to contribute to the nation's largest abortion chain.

In its last reported fiscal year (2008-2009), PPFA clinics aborted 332,278 children, a number equal to the entire population of Cincinnati. Since 1970, PPFA has aborted an estimated 5,300,000 children, equivalent to the entire population of Colorado.

Claim: Without funding for PPFA, women will lack access to mammograms, primary health care, and other necessary services

In truth, Planned Parenthood clinics provide no mammograms. They offer only referrals to health centers, doctors, hospitals and labs for mammograms. PPFA breast exams are done by manual palpation, similar to a breast self-exam. But as a National Institutes of Health MedlinePlus fact sheet states: "There is no evidence that doing breast self exams saves lives from breast cancer." For that, mammography is needed.

posted April 10, 2011 03:21 PM            

as to mammograms they are less and less considered reliable or even safe in the cancer prevention stakes.

and while you rale about "socialist" programs the top 1% of the world are sucking up all the "savings" these bills are supposed to provide. do you think they are going to turn around and donate to the health of the other 99% of us?

posted April 10, 2011 07:17 PM            

I actually agree with T that most elected officials are A-holes.

However, I do disagree with you katatonic that O'Bomber has been captured by the rich.

It's true O'Bomber was supported by the rich and powerful...heads of corporations and coupon clipper heirs to fortunes.

It's also true O'Bomber has paid off like a slot machine for Goldman Sachs, some other banking interests and GE...for instance.

But O'Bomber is anti-capitalist and anti-business...unless one of his army of czars is calling the shots.

O'Bomber and the rest of the Socialist Comrades crew don't understand exactly who creates the wealth in America which O'Bomber and other Socialists are forever attempting to plunder.

We are staring the collapse of the dollar in the face; along with the collapse of the US government bond market from which we have been borrowing 41 cents out of every dollar spent on all those programs.

It's insane and the insanity has to stop. It's insane to believe government bond buyers and foreign governments will continue to fund the excesses of O'Bomber and the Socialist Comrade Clowns.

posted April 11, 2011 10:32 PM            

Adults....as in those people, including the majority of American voters...who understand O'Bomber's recipe of raising taxes on anyone in a severe recession is the fastest way to kill any hopes of an economic recovery.

posted April 13, 2011 12:35 PM            

of course in those days the tax on the highest bracket was around 90% ... but that couldn't be how we afforded it, could it?