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Lonake
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posted July 02, 2011 04:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wonder if he has some heavy h8 planets with that type of action...how interesting, the more I know the more my skin crawls on this one..

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posted July 03, 2011 06:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
stillatlarge and lonake, what do you think of the closing statements so far?

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posted July 03, 2011 06:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stillatlarge     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I thought Jose and Cheney did OK, nothing spectacular but they made the case for reasonable doubt galore. I'm just waiting for the next dirty trick the pros will pull in their closing rebuttal. I wish Jose would kick Ashton's ass and wipe that smirk off his face. That's more evidence of corruption and bias that the judge has let him get away with all the childish antics, making faces, rolling his eyes and laughing thoughout the whole trial while he's put other people in jail for it. The only reason he did nothing to Jose' for pointing it out today is that Jose backed down and didn't ask for Ashton to be in contempt. Had he done so, Perry would've done it to him too. He's just itching to get something on Jose. It's one more grounds for it to be overturned. Ashton got in trouble for multiple instances of prosecutorial misconduct in a death penalty case and Perry was the judge so those two criminals go way back. I hope the jury is honest and not compromised but if it's like everything else in this trial, they're all a bunch of liars who will convict just to get their fifteen minutes and book deals.

http://www.fija.org/

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posted July 04, 2011 09:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree that baez did a great job in showing the lacks and holes in the prosecution theory.

and I was delighted to hear him call ashton the "laughing man". I disagree with you regarding judge belvin perry though, regarding his attitude towards baez and ashton. I think perry is asking for everyone to have a proprer conduct, as he did with the guy giving the finger to ashton, or to the woman previously who called casey a murderer in another phase of the trial, during the selection of the jury I think. in those instances particularily, it is obvious that he's demanding. however that doesn't mean being "mean". on the contrary? I would suggest he even liked jose baez. baez is not a "complete" attorney, and perry tried to help him, without it make it too obvious. he was hard on him, but it was his duty.

I was working today so I haven't seen what happened so far today. but I'm gonna catch up.

I think yesterday the defense attorney managed to clarify the case very well. the prosecutors have nothing, and the jury must judge according to what was proven to them bby the prosecution. but then I am already convinced she didn't intentionnally kill her daughter.

I can believe someone with a pisces rising (if not mistaken) and a pisces sun AND a cancer moon, like casey can feel hurt by many things and protect herself in an unreal world. so when her daughter died she wasn't going to admit it and deal with it in a resonable way I think.

she's been let down her whole life, by those who abused her sexually (george) emotionnally (cindy stealing from her the role of caylee's mother). but I also think she let herself down when she didn't come clean with the accident as and when it happened. but I surely think it doesn't deserve death.

[b]but if she's been a victim throughout her life in the eyes of what people call god, then I rest assure she'll get what she deserves. and the others too, including ashton.

last thing but not least, I think this trial had one great role: to keep for the record how society of today behaves towards other human beings. our day and age is the climax of individualism, with everyone reaching its fullest potential, and we all, by our judgment of one another, seem to fail to reach it. casey is innocent until proven guilty. and baez showed the prosecution didn't prove her guilt. like baez said it was a high profile case (people want to feel they belong to a group, even if they need to gang up on someone to do that) and the prosecution threw a bunch of theories against the wall and looked for what would stick.

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posted July 04, 2011 02:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stillatlarge     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well said.

I'm looking forward to the penalty phase if they don't acquit because that's when a lot of stuff will be allowed in and unsealed. I want to see how the jury reacts when they see how they were duped. BTW, DON'T CLICK ON ANY WEBSITE OR ANY CHANNEL WITH A BANNER THAT SAYS "JUFTISS FOR KAY-LEE" I misspelled that deliberately because the grieving grandparents copyrighted and are making megabucks every time it's used. The media and the parents are in cahootz. That's the best evidence of it so far. Jose' should've asked about that too, like a zillion other things. They are well aware of the copyrighting and that's the loophole in the payoff scam. Sick evil people.

The trademark documents- http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4010:fjv3hb.2.1 http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4010:fjv3hb.3.1

Perry picked the 5 alternates to be dismissed. Whatcha wanna bet #4 made the cut?

This is a 4 part video on Kronky Wonky-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReEDsWs7jkM

I remember when Wendy Murphy was on JVM and Jane practically cut her mic for talking about the drugs/prostitution and the sealed documents. Jane told her they weren't supposed to mention those. Notice they haven't called her back.
http://www.metrowestdailynews.com/archive/x1459481866/WENDY-MURPHY-Why-C asey-Anthony-will-be-acquitted
http://www.metrowestdailynews.com/archive/x898079778/WENDY-J-M URPHY-Casey-Anthony-trial-an-exercise-in-absurdity
Wendy's wrong about the chloroform. It was George.
http://blogs.wickedlocal.com/front-page/#axzz1QbbpsUzU

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posted July 05, 2011 03:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pire, Good, I thought. I mean, I wasn't there and I have no idea who did it, but really, it is a huge leap to convict on murder 1 with that kind of evidence, I am just so opposed to it on principle. Jose said they want you to think she's a **** and this and that and that means she's a murderer, well, no it doesn't. Plenty of room for reasonable doubt, imo. For example, Cindy being at work that day she said she did the search. Well it is known for people to leave their work at all hours of the day to go back home for whatever reason and then return to finish their shift, or it could have been someone else. But I really think their evidence is laughable.

That being said the jury deliberated for about 5 hours on Monday, and I thought the verdict would come in sooner since that's what is said for Fl juries, so I suspect there are some who are not swayed by the evidence and some who are. I would definitely not want to be in that room and definitely not want to be the head of the jury.

re: Ashton laughing I believe they both got in trouble, Ashton for doing it and Jose for calling it out. I prob wouldve called it out too if it were allowed to go on for as long as it had. Ashton imo is not worthy of respect but the other prosecutor Linda Burdick, who is the one who spoke last, is very formidable and well spoken and she makes the prosecution's case look credible by her tone and also her in control manner, maybe they played it that way on purpose since Ashton looks like a puppet so often. Of course she has to be that way because she is a woman so she has to make double sure that she does not give into anything that would look like hysterics but I really think Ashton could learn some things from her. Also, I thought it was crass for Ashton to bring up people not making accidents look like murder, well yes some would, to frame someone else for personal gain, and in his closing he states george's testimony as if it were fact, when I could tell that about half of it was lies. It just seemed like brainwashing to me. Otoh, I thought Jose should have taken a more serious line, his image is not tough guy enough for me, he smiles too much I think, makes too many little jokes when his client is facing the death penalty, so that's another thing he could learn from Linda.

"they're all a bunch of liars who will convict just to get their fifteen minutes and book deals. "
I may not buy those books but I would certainly borrow them from library or purchase second hand. I would love to be fly on the wall in there. I guess we're lucky to even get this much. In the uk apparently none of their court hearings are televised (?)

"because that's when a lot of stuff will be allowed in and unsealed"
Well she'll at least be convicted of lying to police so I do believe there will be a penalty phase, or not exactly?

"because the grieving grandparents copyrighted and are making megabucks every time it's used"
Why would they copyright a misspelled name?? Insanity, replete with his suicide attempt, I wonder if he was hospitalized and put on meds so he can later on claim that defense, for instance killing his wife, see how these people have me thinking about them, now? It's a crazy thing that they would do, now that we know there are no limits here..........Also his suicide letter is so bland and just scripted, no emotion hardly just all the right words in all the right places with neat lady like handwriting.

"The media and the parents are in cahootz. That's the best evidence of it so far. Jose' should've asked about that too, like a zillion other things."
Isn't Jose paid by money gained from selling photos of Caylee to the media or something of that nature? Maybe that's why he didn't bring it up..But I agree even if sustained he should have still gotten the word copyright in there somewhere just to plant the seed.

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posted July 05, 2011 09:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for stillatlarge     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, they copyrighted the words spelled correctly. I did that because that way they don't get a dime, not that they would from a simple message board, but I was making a point. Every time Nancy Grace flashes "Justice for Caylee" or "Caylee Anthony" the Anthony's get paid. I don't see how that's possible. It seems like it would be fair use, public figure exceptions and all that but I guess if Gene Simmons could copyright "OJ" then they could get away with this. Not just O.J. Simpson but orange juice. Any time they use that in print or video, he gets paid for it.
You're right about Jose'. He's such a wuss it's maddening. He could have accomplished so much just with a TONE of outrage, but no, he's meek and mild as a lamb stuttering and stammering all over the place like HE'S in the wrong instead of them. When he finally called Ashton out, it was too little too late, IMO. I've seen defense lawyers screaming at judge's so this b.s. about the rules and all that is just that, b.s. Yes, they do have SOME restraints but NOTHING like what we saw here. Defense attorneys get all rude and sarcastic and contemptuous in tone toward witnesses all the time. It's their job. There is nothing in the rules that says they have to use kid gloves like he did with George. They keep making it out to be a big deal what happened in this court and they were "like two gladiators". LMAO. Two mice is more like it. Jose' could've said so much in the media but no protest at all. I realize the judge has all kind of threats hanging over his head like the contempt charge but a lot of that is because Jose' PLAYED the whipping boy and let them get away with it.

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posted July 05, 2011 02:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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posted July 05, 2011 02:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
casey anthony as just been found not guilty for murder and manslaughter...i dont freaking believe it....but she was found guilty for providing false evidence and information??? really??? and she COULD get time served and not go to jail after this??? REALLY!??? i dont freaking believe it

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posted July 05, 2011 02:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thank you stillatlarge to bring this subject up. I had never heard of casey anthony before you started a thread here. I am glad you did.

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posted July 05, 2011 02:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
how funny that she IS JUST guilty of the 4 charges about lying.

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posted July 05, 2011 02:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yea, its crazy pire...the news was just on with a live feed of the courtroom and it was just the false information that shes guilty of...nevermind all the evidence that clearly proves she killed her own daughter...can you believe more than half of the jury are women???? shouldnt these women be the most infuriated about casey killing her daughter?? and even they said she was innocent????

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posted July 05, 2011 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I liked what Mason said about the attorneys going on to TV shows and talking out of their a§§ basically, just to feed a media frenzy.

I liked how he said what really happened, that a part of those people had already convicted her.

I thought about this "Nejame" who was tzlking on local 6 (a former lawyer of the anthony's parents. he did annoy me so much during the trial, always looking at things in a biased way. he loved to be on TV. but the jury said she was not guilty.

Baez last point in English was a timeless moment. The danger, uselesness of death penalty, killing being a mistake no matter who is doing it.

do you see why?

in france, where I live, it's been abolished in 1981

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posted July 05, 2011 03:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starr33     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All I can say is Wow! No justice for Caylee.

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posted July 05, 2011 03:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/07/05/anthony_defense_team_slams_media_now_you_have_learned_a_lesson.html

hear the old wise man

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posted July 05, 2011 03:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I am very happy for CASEY Anthony

I have a strong feeling the decision was taken yesterday, on the 4th of july.

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posted July 05, 2011 03:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I prefer that type of vibe, so up up up

I am relieved, and can't hide it

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posted July 05, 2011 04:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
for those who missed it

week one http://www.youtube.com/user/1947Sierra#g/c/FE037DD2B5792CE0

week 2 http://www.youtube.com/user/1947Sierra#g/c/DE8C1750F1EA34E5

week 3 http://www.youtube.com/user/1947Sierra#g/c/0450E3B32BDA7F7A

week 4 http://www.youtube.com/user/1947Sierra#g/c/696C83A7328ACCAF

week 5 http://www.youtube.com/user/1947Sierra#g/c/36FFEE0E1296EFBF

week 6 http://www.youtube.com/user/1947Sierra#g/c/E2D8586DD9C10805

june 30th http://www.youtube.com/user/1947Sierra#g/c/250D953CE333D4C3

july 1st http://www.youtube.com/user/1947Sierra#g/c/5FC403E8F45767F8

july 3rd http://www.youtube.com/user/1947Sierra#g/c/2A1EF8BAD490CC76

july 4th http://www.youtube.com/user/1947Sierra#g/c/69DC9218AC55C194

july 5th http://www.youtube.com/user/1947Sierra#g/c/082AA4F4E05F739C

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posted July 05, 2011 04:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonWitch     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nice to pull out the virtual champagne when there is a dead little girl and apparently a murderer on the loose since SUPPOSEDLY the true killer hasn't been caught yet.

It's all just as sad as the OJ case.

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posted July 05, 2011 05:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
guys people die everyday, and they are not all killed.

note that I also pulled out the videos of the trial, if anyone talking is interested

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posted July 05, 2011 05:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonWitch     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why would you think you are the only person here that watched the trial? If you think Caley died of natural causes then that is your opinion, I guess. Next time someone I know dies i suppose it makes sense to tape up their face and throw them in the woods.

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posted July 05, 2011 05:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stillatlarge     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pop the champagne for all the innocents in this world who've died at the hands of ignorant bloodthirsty mobs. Praise God! I don't care for Casey Anthony and it troubles me that she and the ghoulish parents are going to be rich and famous over whatever happened to this child but the truth and justice prevailed. If you want to blame someone, blame the cops for ignoring the evidence, doing a sloppy half-assed investigation and whoring to the media. Blame the prosecutors for charging the wrong Anthony. Blame the cops for not arresting George for molesting his daughter and for covering his dirty deeds for him. Blame Cindy Anthony for covering it up and letting it happen.

Now it's time to find out what really happened to Caylee and that trail leads right to George. He and Cinday have already broke the bank with the millions they've received for their story, licensing, and copyright of the child's name. Maybe they can use that to fund their own defense!

There simply was more evidence that George did it than Casey. There was no evidence to charge her with to begin with and all the state's evidence turned out to be exageration or outright lies. The media is trying to use this ignorance of the mob to abolish the jury system and the useful idiots just march like lemmings to the gallows.
I noticed the parents left right away. They WANTED her convicted because it took the focus off George. This is not like O.J. because we have the most likely perpetrator right under our nose. I hope they unseal everything and people can finally see how they were duped by the media. I would put money on it it is George's child. I want to see the rest of what they withheld like his police discharge papers, the phoney suicide note, the videos/pictures they said were too prejudicial. I think George got Casey into prostitution/porn and I think they were pimping Caylee too. When Jose' used the word "ritual killing" I think he was intimating something. Thank God for Jose'. He was David who slew the giant. He's deserving of all the good that comes to him.

I just hope Casey lives through this. I can't imagine how she will walk the street in this country with all the frenzied violent idiots out there.

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posted July 05, 2011 05:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonWitch     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Blame the cops for not arresting George for molesting his daughter and for covering his dirty deeds for him. Blame Cindy Anthony for covering it up and letting it happen.

And is there proof of that or are you deciding they are guilty on hearsay? Those are serious accusations with no evidence.

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posted July 05, 2011 06:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
moonwitch everyone is talking out of hunches here, even you when you say she was killed. Dr spitz ( on june 20th if I am right you can look it up in the videos if you missed it live) an eminant doctor who did an autopsy on caylee, didn't find any evidence of the way she died.

so how can you ascertain she was killed?

here is his testimony
http://www.youtube.com/user/1947Sierra#p/c/696C83A7328ACCAF/32/p02G4myd0Fk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEBYiZcTtuo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYSEYNAE9Vw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhwQevaRb_s

among other occupations, this Dr (a medical doctor/forensic pathologist),

member of the university medical school of berlin,

associate professor in the john hopkins university,

associate professor university of maryland,

assistant medical examineer of the state of maryland baltimore, deputy chief medical examiner for the state of maryland at the office of the chief medical examiner,

chief medical examiner for the wayne county medical examiner office (detroit michigan), associate professor and full professor at the wayne state university school of medecine

fellow in the college of american pathology

fellow in the american society of clinical pathology

formerly on the board of director of national association of the medical examiners

fellow of the american acedemy of forensic science

vice-president of the world congress of legal medecine

licenced to practice medecine in all countries from European Union, michigan, virginia, district of columbia, maryland

special consultant for the rockerfeller comission concerned with the assassination of JFK

member of the forensic pathology panel select commitie on assassination of the US house of representative (testified before the house of representative on the assassination of MLK and JFK

plus other things...

he didn't find evidences of caylee being killed.

but.... if nancy grace and others say so...

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posted July 05, 2011 06:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonWitch     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Common sense.

People that die of natural causes - especially kids - don't end up in a laundry bag, with their faces covered with tape in the woods. We can debate all we want about who did it but obviously someone did. Caley didn't wrap herself up and throw herself into the woods.

Though if you believe the ridiculous drowning story then there is at the least a child neglect and endangerment issue for not calling 911 being that there would have been a possibility for revival.

This whole thing is just mind boggling to me.

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