posted July 13, 2011 09:42 PM            

england has deprived murdoch of the ownership of BSkyB, a sweet little monopoly holding on satellite tv he has been after for some time. the NOWT is gone, and others look to follow as the illegal and corrupt tactics murdoch's newsmakers have been engaging in for decades come home to roost. and now it is looking like they were also hacking into private phones, bribing and blackmailing their way into the hearts of america too.

posted July 13, 2011 10:27 PM            

of course they HAVE come up with some great stories, but i will never forget the "THE SHOCK AND THE OUTRAGE" headlines that put punk rock on the map and simultaneously destroyed it due to the outrageous publicity a lot of musicians were maimed, banned from playing, etc.

and that is just a couple of MUSIC biz larks. murdoch as i mentioned on another thread raised funds for hillary, endorsed obama through the NY post, and then set his dogs on the democrats for so much sport.

he has through his minions messed with the queen, politics in several countries, and turned the media into a curse word almost singlehandedly...

posted July 14, 2011 11:33 AM            

Here's a partial list of the most extreme right wingers.

posted July 14, 2011 02:54 PM            

You too believe Fox News is fair and balanced, presenting both or all sides of issues...and that Murdock designed Fox News to present all sides of issues...by hiring commentators and contributors from both left and right.

posted July 15, 2011 11:16 AM            

YOU seem to think "fair and balanced" is just a matter of numbers on either side of the table.

I think "fair and balanced" indicates some fairness in the presentation by either side, in other words, and attempt to be HONEST (which is always fair) and REASONABLE (which is generally balanced) on whichever side you are.

posted July 17, 2011 07:52 AM            

Eric Francis found a correlation between the start up of the UK paper, R-M natal, and the breaking of the story.

Though the scandal has been going on for sometime, simmering on the back burner__ involving Pluto which has been hovering around 5* Cap, [turns out the Murdoch has 5 Cap,] and Pholus that small cause ~ big effect centaur planet.

fascinating stuff.

I asked a fellow politico at work yesterday if he thought Rupert was going down.
He replied "too big to fail"

Minions are bailing like lemmings~ let's see what the FBI has to say.

there was a free issue at PW I have not read it yet, would imagine it is a fully fleshed out version of what Eric talked about earlier in the week....

link to the free post issue

posted July 17, 2011 04:18 PM            

three continents I am fumbling about thinking of a similar point of history where a coup of this sort has resulted in the downfall because they are so influencial....there are a few out there. In this instance his own tight hold on the reigns might serve as the noose. He has no patsy, no fall guy, or woman to lay some of the blame as it is widely known that even in his advanced years control has been omnipotent.

And what is wrong with wanting him to pay? Both in reduced stature, and possible legal action?
Criminal activities that have resulted in catastrophically cruel dealings, damaging many, many lives. If blood is a metaphor for jail time I am all for it.

we will be hearing updates about this for years perhaps.

kat

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except a lot of people haven't been told that and believe it to be FACTual reporting.

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too true, and I have no doubt that he has his defenders by those who do need someone to digest things for them, and tell them what they should think, instead of thinking for themselves.

Juni:
I forgot to say before that
Dirty Laundry gave me a good laugh, how apt.

posted July 17, 2011 04:29 PM            

there are plenty of corrupt operations ongoing and it may be naive to think we can get them all but if pluto in cap/uranus in aries can't ferret out a good proportion of them and set in motion some major reforms/rebirths of ethics, i will be very disappointed.

and, jwhop, since the major egg thrower at acorn was murdoch-sponsored media, i would expect a long and thorough investigation before they were pilloried. i have my doubts about most of your info and sources, to be honest. they come mostly from the same womb.

posted July 17, 2011 04:51 PM            

i somehow doubt it will be a US prison, the british are really up in arms (finally) about him and OTHER news outlets too. the police and scotland yard are not untarnished either...

meanwhile, back at the ponderosa, we appear to be avoiding the subject altogether:

[URL=http://news.yahoo.com/fox-news-ignoring-rupert-murdochs-hacking-scandal-095800609.html]http://news.yahoo.com/fox-news-ignoring-rupert-murdochs-hacking-scandal-095800609.html[/ URL]

posted July 17, 2011 05:40 PM            

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I have long maintained that the media, in particular what we call the news media, is one of the biggest spiritual problems of our times. By that I mean an existential problem on all levels, from consciousness to politics, influencing every thought we think and why we believe we're alive. If we want to understand why society's problems seem so intractable, imagine if there were more newspapers that told the truth about them, rather than covering up the issues. If we want to understand why so many people are so poorly informed, have bizarre opinions, absurd worldviews and believe in the politicians and policies that hurt them the most, we have the media to thank, all of it, including movies, TV and most books. We've all seen this over and over: a problem surfaces in mainstream news coverage, and then it disappears. We all know about issues that get no press at all. And we figure there must be a reason -- such as the newspapers are protecting their friends in public office, or are somehow involved in what they're making disappear.

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posted July 17, 2011 05:41 PM            

What did Murdock DO? Not his alleged minions but Murdock himself?

Of course, when I say what did Murdock DO; I mean what did Mudrock DO...that's illegal.

posted July 17, 2011 06:13 PM            

from the comments in the above ^^ link:

EP3 days ago
I watch Fox News religiously! What "hacking scandal" are you talking about?

posted July 17, 2011 08:27 PM            

he is not alone in this...hence my saying i don't care about the jail part, but exposure of not only the means but the fruits cultivated by murdoch et co are long overdue. as i said, pretty much everyone has known about the NOWT and it's tactics for decades but no one ever spoke out before.

eric francis apparently did a stint writing for the tabloid press himself, not sure but suspect as their astrologer. he has seen what goes on, and it would be very hard to believe that murdoch didn't at the very least look the other way while those in his pay did the dirty work - and spread sleaze for its cash value. there are many politicians in his "circle" of "friends" in high places, and he has helped make, and break plenty.

posted July 18, 2011 12:53 PM            

of COURSE rupert is not going to have dirtied his own hands with much of this. so if they do "get" him it will have to be for something big, or for being in charge of the empire that behaves thus.

it is also not ILLEGAL for ailes to have informed obama that were he more supportive of FOX (with his presence and implicit approval) there would be less invective treatment of him and his wife...it shows a good deal of their general MO. which is intimidation and often downright smear tactics, such as John Major was treated to at the end of HIS term as prime minister...and he was warned beforehand that the murdoch crew were going to "pour a bucket of **** over his head" if he didn't change his tune...

scotland yard has been sitting on 11000 pages of evidence/notes regarding the phone-hacking and manipulation of officials...the chief of the metropolitan police has now resigned...this is not just "journalism".

so he may not go to jail. he's 80 anyhow and the more poetic justice would be to see his hold on the political climate and actions on three continents crumble away and nothing he can do about it, since at least the british politicians are gaining courage from this recent exposure of scandalous ethics.

i'm not naive enough to think there aren't others who will follow in his footsteps, or who have been acting similarly. this is one of the problems of ultra-deregulation, since by the current laws of the lands involved, there are plenty of laws against what has been done but it may be impossible to prove, this may result in more regulation which SHOULD be unnecessary. other papers in england are coming under scrutiny too, and not just murdoch papers. the DAILY MIRROR is another sick rag which is not his but has kept up step with his for decades...

posted July 18, 2011 01:42 PM            

Shutting down News of the World...to avoid an investigation? You've got to be kidding.

Still, I don't see anything Murdock DID personally which is illegal.

If you can come up with anything ILLEGAL which merits an investigation of Murdock, let me know.