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Topic: 2012 O'Bomber Plan, Kill Romney!
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jwhop Knowflake Posts: 4041 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 10, 2011 11:18 AM
Well, when you have nothing else to run on, when all your policy initiatives have failed and make Americans want to throw up, what's left but to wage a campaign of personal destruction.But wait, haven't we heard from O'Bomber that he represented a new brand of politics? Out with the old, in with the new? Let's just say that O'Bomber has fully lived up to my expectations. Obama plan: Destroy Romney By BEN SMITH & JONATHAN MARTIN 8/9/11 Barack Obama’s aides and advisers are preparing to center the president’s reelection campaign on a ferocious personal assault on Mitt Romney’s character and business background, a strategy grounded in the early-stage expectation that the former Massachusetts governor is the likely GOP nominee.......... “Unless things change and Obama can run on accomplishments, he will have to kill Romney,” said a prominent Democratic strategist aligned with the White House.... The onslaught would have two aspects. The first is personal: Obama’s reelection campaign will portray the public Romney as inauthentic, unprincipled and, in a word used repeatedly by Obama’s advisers in about a dozen interviews, “weird.”.... The second aspect of the campaign to define Romney is his record as CEO of Bain Capital, a venture capital firm that was responsible for both creating and eliminating jobs. Obama officials intend to frame Romney as the very picture of greed in the great recession — a sort of political Gordon Gekko.....
Romney officials shrug off the tough talk, arguing that there’s nothing Obama can do that will turn the campaign away from functioning as a referendum on his stewardship of the economy..... http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0811/60921.html#ixzz1UZ44xyE3
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jwhop Knowflake Posts: 4041 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 10, 2011 11:22 AM
August 10, 2011 Desperation grips Team Obama Joseph SmithObama's reelection team is desperate, and "planning a ferocious personal assault on Romney's character and business background...." With their man reaching new lows in approval ratings, President Obama's reelection team appears ready to pull out all the stops on negative campaigning. From Politico: Barack Obama's aides and advisers are preparing to center the president's reelection campaign on a ferocious personal assault on Mitt Romney's character and business background, a strategy grounded in the early-stage expectation that the former Massachusetts governor is the likely GOP nominee. With just a touch of irony, Obama's campaign handlers hope to emulate George W. Bush's "takedown" of Sen. John Kerry in 2004, according to Politico. And with nary a touch of civility, a Democratic strategist says of candidate Obama: Unless things change and Obama can run on accomplishments, he will have to kill Romney. Jonathan Tobin, writing in Commentary, points out, however, that the change in tone from hope and change to a campaign run in the gutter "undermines the president's credibility at a time when he is already perceived as lacking this quality." Politico further reports that Obama's campaign advisors plan to portray Romney as "weird," a word "used repeatedly by Obama's advisers in about a dozen interviews," including this from one senior advisor: There's a weirdness factor with Romney, and it remains to be seen how he wears with the public. But in Tobin's view, the "weirdness factor" may be problematic for the Obama campaign: The leaking of the idea they intend to prove Romney is "weird" speaks to something more sinister than pointing out inconsistencies in his record. When people say "weird" about Romney, a man whose personal and professional life has been a picture of upright conformity, it can't be a comment about his stances on abortion. It can only mean one thing: his religion. Trying to tell voters to be wary of electing a Mormon without actually venturing into direct incitement of religious bigotry is a tricky business. ...Unleashing the demons of prejudice is bad for the country under any circumstances. But for a president-whose historic status is based on the triumph over bias-to play this game would be political suicide. In the wake of Obama's unfolding economic destruction, his campaign team will be hard-pressed to promote their man as the solution for the next four years. Whether the Republican front-runner is Bachman or Romney, Palin or Perry, expect the Axelrod machine to plumb new lows in the depths of negative campaigning. http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2011/08/desperation_grips_team_obama.html IP: Logged |
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 6898 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 10, 2011 01:54 PM
yes it sure is ironic that those who have no problem insinuating - at the top of their voices - that obama is a muslim, should find it bigotted that someone mention romney's mormonism...haven't heard any of the actual talk so i am just commenting on the hypocrisy of our american dinker. IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 4041 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 10, 2011 01:57 PM
Well, I don't know anyone calling O'Bomber a Muslim. Got any examples of Republican Presidential candidates...or anyone on their staffs calling O'Bomber a Muslim?? IP: Logged |
AcousticGod Knowflake Posts: 5565 From: Pleasanton, CA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 10, 2011 02:30 PM
I think it's wildly speculative to think Romney's going to get the nomination, and based upon fundraising I don't foresee Obama really having trouble with any high-profile Republican contender at this point.IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 4041 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 10, 2011 03:31 PM
Well, according to Politico, the story about how O'Bomber is going to run the 2012 election campaign came straight from his staff...and O'Bomber officials.And really, what else does O'Bomber have to run on to get reelected? I would agree it's too early to focus on any one Republican as the nominee. IP: Logged |
AcousticGod Knowflake Posts: 5565 From: Pleasanton, CA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 10, 2011 04:01 PM
If you and I agree that the verdict isn't in on Romney, then it seems weird that people inside the Administration would be convinced as to how things will play out. Caught Buddy Roemer the other day on Colbert. Do you like him? IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 4041 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 10, 2011 11:31 PM
I don't know much about Governor Roemer, except that he was a Democrat, mostly conservative and has been out of politics for years.Roemer is (probably) more conservative than Huntsman or Romney. What did you think of Governor Roemer? IP: Logged |
AcousticGod Knowflake Posts: 5565 From: Pleasanton, CA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 11, 2011 11:30 AM
He came across pretty well on Colbert's show, but having been a member of both parties I'm not sure if Conservatives would go for him. He didn't have a lot to say policy-wise, but was committed to only being financed by private individuals in amounts of $100 or less. He doesn't want to be beholden to special interests, which is a good place to start. He's a Libra. Ike was a Libra, too. I like Ike.I have a friend who was ecstatic about Perry's entrance into the race yesterday. IP: Logged |
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 6898 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 11, 2011 05:35 PM
Well, I don't know anyone calling O'Bomber a Muslim" - jwhopwell the shortness of your memory is almost as endearing as it is frustrating...and comes in very convenient too, doesn't it? i am pretty sure romney will shoot his own foot and save obama the trouble of having to do anything about him at all. IP: Logged |
AcousticGod Knowflake Posts: 5565 From: Pleasanton, CA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 11, 2011 06:07 PM
Making predictions about a campaign prior to the campaigns being in full swing is dodgy at best. Massachusetts politicians don't do well in the national arena if Kerry's any example. The fact that Romney's a Conservative from that thought-to-be-liberal state doesn't bode well either. The fact that he passed healthcare legislation similar to Obama's shouldn't endear him to any Conservatives. He'd have to have a stunning campaign to get anywhere in my estimation. Obama's numbers are in the hole. It's impossible to determine whether that will sink him, though, because his campaign has obviously been successful in the past. Republicans didn't name him the Messiah for nothing. He routed a military hero/career politician after being a Senator just one term himself. Bad economy coupled with unpopularity usually bodes bad for an incumbent, so it will depend on how much people believe the economy is his fault. IP: Logged |
juniperb Moderator Posts: 2340 From: Blue Star Kachina Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 11, 2011 06:50 PM
quote: i am pretty sure romney will shoot his own foot and save obama the trouble of having to do anything about him at all.
I doubt it kat. Romney is too savvy and to ruin his own chances isn`t an option for him. Obama truely needs all the help he can muster; be it slurs and slanders or an open honest run for it. The odds for him arn`t looking so good ey! Let the games begin ------------------ Submit to Love without thinking, as the sun rose this morning recklessly, extinguishing our star-candled minds. Rumi IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 10743 From: The Goober Galaxy Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 11, 2011 11:25 PM
The stock market tumbles aren't helping Obama either. People won't forget seeing their retirement acoounts dwindle under Obamanomics.IP: Logged |
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 6898 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 11, 2011 11:26 PM
here comes the circus - already!IP: Logged |
Node Knowflake Posts: 1506 From: 1,981 mi East of Truth or Consequences NM Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 12, 2011 07:00 AM
the stock market is an obama blame game this time too??Hilarious. I thought Boehner got 98% of what HE wanted.
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katatonic Knowflake Posts: 6898 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 12, 2011 11:00 AM
that is what boehner said.and if the tumbles are obama's fault the RISES surely must be, especially since they are tied to things like positive JOBS REPORTS and RETAIL FIGURES as they have been this week... but let's face it, the stock market is about EMOTION and SPECULATION and all it indicates is people trying to figure out where the game is going next. some may claim that the market is not a casino, but for the majority of players, it is just that, even those who consider themselves "savvy". surprises have abounded in the past few years and left many scratching their heads as to the best next move. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 10743 From: The Goober Galaxy Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 12, 2011 11:02 AM
It doesn't matter what role he played or didn't play--he will be blamed for it.IP: Logged |
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 6898 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 12, 2011 11:39 AM
your way of putting it is a very concise summary of the attitude of those who just plain hate obama, randall. fortunately for him not everyone is blind to the fact that he can't be responsible ONLY for the bad stuff! or for every bit of bad news either.you can't make him responsible for everything "but leave out the good stuff", now can you? time to bring a little reality back, eh? let's just pretend that obama, while far from perfect - the left call him the best republican the dems every elected - he is not ALWAYS wrong no matter whether the story is good or bad? IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 10743 From: The Goober Galaxy Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 12, 2011 02:09 PM
What good has he done? Yes, he will be blamed by those who just lost a large chunk of their vested retirements, and truthfully, he is not blameless. ------------------ "To avoid criticism, say nothing, do nothing, be nothing." Aristotle IP: Logged |
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 6898 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 12, 2011 02:45 PM
i don't hear you praising him for the GOOD days this week...or the jobs and retail reports that were behind them. FOR INSTANCE.you cannot say everything is his fault but when things go right they are not his credit, all i'm sayin. before the recent shenanigans of congress we were steadily if slowly pulling OUT of recession. now we are teetering on the brink again. will i vote for these nanigans? no way. nor will a lot of other people. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 10743 From: The Goober Galaxy Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 12, 2011 02:56 PM
We were pulling out of a recession DESPITE Obamanomics, not due to it. You don't spend money in a recession. That's economic suicide. People don't recall the good; they remember the bad for a long time. When you have a good experience at a restaurant, you will tell a few people. When you have a bad experience, you will tell many more. It's human nature. Likewise, you will probably not go back to that restaurant. A lot of people are tired of the Obama Cafe. IP: Logged |
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 6898 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 12, 2011 08:11 PM
back to jwhop's civics test, the time-honoured way out of recession is to RAISE TAXES AND SPENDING, pumping money INTO the economy, not sucking it out!and since the market ended on the UP today i doubt anyone will be blaming obama for the loss of the farm just yet. that is what i mean by, if you blame him for everything you also have to give him credit. though i don't think he deserves either full credit or full blame for anything. IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 4041 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 13, 2011 09:42 AM
"Well, I don't know anyone calling O'Bomber a Muslim" - jwhop"Got any examples of Republican Presidential candidates...or anyone on their staffs calling O'Bomber a Muslim??"...jwhop well the shortness of your memory is almost as endearing as it is frustrating...and comes in very convenient too, doesn't it?...katatonic" So katatonic, do the world a service and remind me...and everyone else which Republican Presidential candidates or anyone on their staffs...or, for that matter any Republican member of Congress who is calling O'Bomber a Muslim! In fact, it was O'Bomber himself who spoke about "my Muslim faith" and had to be corrected by George Stephanopoulos that he really meant "my Christian faith". http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKGdkqfBICw Now katatonic, should I sit right here, holding my breath until you get around to finding a Republican presidential candidate, a member of their staffs or a Republican member of Congress who says...O'Bomber is a Muslim? One further thing katatonic. Pulling money out of the private sector to spend on public binges dries up capital in the private sector. That's economic insanity when a nation is in a recession spiraling into economic depression. Borrowing the money to spend on futile public binges is even worse insanity. IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 4041 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 13, 2011 09:57 AM
CBO...Congressional Budget Office, warned O'Bomber and Congress that O'Bomber's so called "Stimulus Plan" would do more harm to the US economy in the long run than if they did NOTHING.CBO: Obama stimulus harmful over long haul President Obama’s economic recovery package will actually hurt the economy more in the long run than if he were to do nothing, the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office said Wednesday. CBO, the official scorekeepers for legislation, said the House and Senate bills will help in the short term but result in so much government debt that within a few years they would crowd out private investment, actually leading to a lower Gross Domestic Product over the next 10 years than if the government had done nothing. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/feb/04/cbo-obama-stimulus-harmful-over-long-haul/ By every economic metric, the Congressional Budget Office and Republicans who refused to vote for O'Bomber's spending spree were proved right. IP: Logged |
juniperb Moderator Posts: 2340 From: Blue Star Kachina Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 13, 2011 12:11 PM
Big business is alive and well.... now , where`s his tax statement?
Presidential hopeful Romney reveals wealth
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Mitt Romney, the Republican frontrunner to challenge President Barack Obama in the 2012 election, reported a net worth up to $264 million Friday. Romney's office said his financial disclosure report showed assets valued at between $85 million to $264 million, but added "a more accurate range is between $190 (million) to $250 million." Romney, a former head of private equity firm Bain Capital and an ex-governor of Massachusetts, contributed tens of millions of dollars to his failed 2008 campaign for the Republican presidential nomination. His financial disclosure form was filed Friday, a day before Republicans in Iowa hold a straw poll, a nonbinding mock election that tests the strength of campaigns and traditionally winnows out some losers from the presidential field. http://news.yahoo.com/presidential-hopeful-romney-reveals-wealth-010729998.html ------------------ Submit to Love without thinking, as the sun rose this morning recklessly, extinguishing our star-candled minds. Rumi IP: Logged |