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Topic: what unites US?
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katatonic Knowflake Posts: 7083 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 04, 2011 04:42 PM
that would be us here, though i wonder what unites the US these days too.little clip for you jwhop, and anyone else interested...this kid is no hippy, he is articulate and lucid, and shares a lot of talking points with YOU! http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/2011/10/03/best-end-the-fed-speech-from-an-occupy-wall-street-protestor-yet.-spread-this-far-and-wide-75511/ IP: Logged |
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 7083 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 04, 2011 04:45 PM
is it time to devolve into separate states yet? what makes the united states viable at its current size and the sheer volume of laws on the books, to mention two possible points of discussion besides the above...?IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 12056 From: The Goober Galaxy Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 04, 2011 09:46 PM
Seriously? The US isn't going to implode. lmaoIP: Logged |
Node Knowflake Posts: 1605 From: 1,981 mi East of Truth or Consequences NM Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 05, 2011 08:55 AM
Articulate man. The truth of 1913 with the Dec. 23 passage of the bill that changed the game forever; passionate delivery, riveting.Thanks for posting. I was also struck by the expressions on the faces of those listening. quote: Controversy about the Federal Reserve Act and the establishment of the Federal Reserve System has existed since prior to its passage. Some of the questions raised include: whether Congress has the Constitutional power to delegate its power to coin money or issue paper money, why it was passed on December 23 while most of Congress was away for Christmas, whether the Federal Reserve is a public cartel of private banks (also called a banking cartel) established to protect powerful financial interests, and whether the Federal Reserve's actions increased the severity of the Great Depression in the 1930s (and/or the severity or frequency of other boom-bust economic cycles, such as the Late-2000s recession).
from-> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Reserve_Act IP: Logged |
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 7083 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 05, 2011 12:12 PM
if he said the us was going to implode i missed that, randall! and if you think i said it was, you are mistaken. i was ASKING A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS! how is laughing at me going to make anything better? with all due respect, i think mutual respect will get us farther than snorting at each other...do you think we should just go on standing behind drawn lines throwing rocks at each other? or is there something that actually we all have in common? do you seriously think that all it needs is for a new president to be elected and everything will be fine and dandy? don't you think there are some fundamental issues here that transcend personalities? i was asking what unites us? and if the fed gov is so big because the country is so big? and what we can ALL do about it that circumvents the scapegoat mentality?
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 12056 From: The Goober Galaxy Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 05, 2011 01:28 PM
A new President is a good start, since the current one is trying to destroy the country...but he won't succeed.IP: Logged |
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 7083 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 05, 2011 01:52 PM
thanks randall for joining in the spirit of my post! can we leave personalities out of this for a few minutes?IP: Logged |
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 7083 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 06, 2011 02:59 PM
so randall - if you can't think of anything that unites us, how do you think the country will NOT implode?IP: Logged |
Emeraldopal Knowflake Posts: 694 From: U Registered: Apr 2011
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posted October 06, 2011 03:40 PM
Patriotism...interesting! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriotism ------------------ All my love, with all my Heart lotusheartone IP: Logged |
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 7083 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 06, 2011 09:17 PM
IMO a country is only as good as the people in it, and if they are all fighting amongst themselves it will collapse but PRONTO. obama has only as much power as the other branches let him get away with. so he is not the crux of the matter.whether he is trying to destroy it is not really within your ability to know. he is only one man. so what do we have in common and how do we make this country work? or should we just call it a failed experiment and devolve into states? IP: Logged |
Emeraldopal Knowflake Posts: 694 From: U Registered: Apr 2011
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posted October 07, 2011 12:04 AM
katatonic..you stated...IMO a country is only as good as the people in it ______________________________________ In my Heart I believe that all of us in America,are here for a purpose...for all the things the United States of America.. Stands for. ... I believe that America has a secret destiny, a Revelation, and collaboration of Good men and Good women.. these are special..amazing times.. the impossible, becomes possible and always... 'Expect A Miracle' ------------------ All my love, with all my Heart lotusheartone IP: Logged |
Emeraldopal Knowflake Posts: 694 From: U Registered: Apr 2011
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posted October 07, 2011 03:20 PM
Friday, Oct. 7, 2011 New Hampshire Union Leader NH VIEWPO!NTPledge of Consistancy Scool-wide or class by class, it's a daily ritual Pledge of Allegiance I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. The words, adopted by Congress in 1942, must be a part of every New Hampshire school day, according to the School Patriot Act, a state law passed in 2002 following the 9/11 terror attacks. It requires schools to set aside time for the pledge. Students who choose not to participate may stand silently or remain seated. BY Jason Schreiber _____________________________ just a small part of the article, I found interesting! ------------------ All my love, with all my Heart lotusheartone IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 12056 From: The Goober Galaxy Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 07, 2011 03:44 PM
A country doesn't have to all agree on everything. There's nothing wrong with fighting among ourselves. We are very lucky to live in a country where we are free to do so and to be able to express opposing viewpoints. That in and of itself shows that it is a successful experiment. There is no danger of it collapsing. It hasn't collapsed yet, and it won't. Anything else is just a smokescreen created by people who hate this country and who hate freedom. IP: Logged |
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 7083 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 07, 2011 07:56 PM
yes randall but WHAT unites us? here on lindaland? in the country? in the world?IP: Logged |
Node Knowflake Posts: 1605 From: 1,981 mi East of Truth or Consequences NM Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 08, 2011 09:08 AM
When I first read the title to your thread Kat, I thought:Our human-ness. Our humanity. Often remaining unexpressed. I was reading an essay with a similar view this A.M. by a writer who is a hundred times more proficient at getting my point across.... I will lazily paste it here-> by Judith Gayle: quote: There is a basic and decisive difference between the way a conservative and a progressive see the world. Let me give it to you, short form: conservatives are all about property rights while progressives value human rights. It comes down to people vs. property. Heart vs. head (wallet.) The founders would have understood these differences, which are neither Republican nor Democrat but older and more defining of consciousness than of politics. This is the difference between Jeffersonian politics designed to aid and protect the commonwealth and Federalism’s defense of states’ rights and the might of privilege (property owners.)
in full. here. Our ability to see our sameness, as opposed to our differences appears to have been lost. In times of crisis we [americans] need a bad guy, a finger pointed everywhere but at ourselves. We each share blame for our current troubles.
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katatonic Knowflake Posts: 7083 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 08, 2011 12:18 PM
yes...i would add that we probably all would like to see HONESTY in government whether or not we agree what methods should be used to govern. we would like less INTERFERENCE in our daily lives and businesses, and more FAIRNESS in the way justice is practiced. what else? as for obama, he works for all of us. so "getting rid of him" is not really the solution, is it? the other branches are largely working against him, so how anyone can blame him as if he were the sultan of brunei is beyond me. we need to stop letting the talking heads, politicians and lobbyists divide us or how can we get the changes we want? IP: Logged |
Emeraldopal Knowflake Posts: 694 From: U Registered: Apr 2011
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posted October 08, 2011 10:27 PM
what unites us ALL..we're all in the same boat (MOther Earth) row row row your boat gently down the stream Merrily, Merrily, Merrily, Merrily Life is but a DREAM... we are all united World-Wide! but they started it first, lol. ... ------------------ All my love, with all my Heart lotusheartone IP: Logged |
BearsArcher Moderator Posts: 640 From: Arizona with Bear the Leo Registered: Apr 2010
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posted October 09, 2011 01:00 AM
quote: Originally posted by Randall: A new President is a good start, since the current one is trying to destroy the country...but he won't succeed.
I agree 100% IP: Logged |
Emeraldopal Knowflake Posts: 694 From: U Registered: Apr 2011
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posted October 09, 2011 01:07 AM
did you know, I can't even listen to our President, he starts to talk, and I go deaf, or something!? I can't listen to him...And I still believe he is not a US citizen, I've had plenty of affirmations, that tell me so! ------------------ All my love, with all my Heart lotusheartone IP: Logged |
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 7083 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 09, 2011 02:56 PM
okay so instead of finding common ground a couple of people here prefer advocating just jumping from the frying pan into the fire. that is SOOO helpful!!since when does what ANY one person do alter the shape of the whole country? congress is fighting him, the supreme court are too. what exactly do you think makes him SOLE BOOGEYMAN? and for the last time, what do you think UNITES us? IP: Logged |