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katatonic Knowflake Posts: 7601 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 09, 2011 01:56 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHGUpxtfcoc fox-fair-and-balanced does it again. apparently those russian riots were in greece. IP: Logged |
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 7601 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 19, 2012 10:59 AM
meanwhile, their sister cos in blighty are feeling the blight! http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46053202/ns/world_news-europe/ not only is news corp forking over some big ones to jude law and others, but they have admitted "misusing" the illegally invasively obtained information they hacked off their phones etc... i wonder, why is it okay for a BIG guy like rupee to rape and pillage people's private information, but when a little guy rapes and pillages info from the govt or a big company they are squashed like flies? perhaps it is the importance of the information, i can go along with that. but it is not okay JUST BECAUSE THEY CAN for honchos like newscorp to destroy lives for their enrichment and the titillation of the smaller minds of the world. private should be private. that goes for rupert bear, the government, and the nextdoor neighbour too. IP: Logged |
Node Knowflake Posts: 1761 From: 1,981 mi East of Truth or Consequences NM Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 11, 2012 03:22 AM
Morning Kat. the Brits have been the toughest on Murdoch, admittedly I haven't been keeping up....wots the word on allegations/trial there? I have high hopes that Britain will service justice in this case. IP: Logged |
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 7601 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 11, 2012 04:44 PM
hey, node! i have to admit i haven't been watching too carefully...but i did see a story yesterday about how the folks at the SUN, another even more raggy rag of rupee's, are getting nervous that they may catch some of the same flak as NOTW...ie they are afraid their jobs and paper may be next.. i have noticed that every so often more heads come up on the roller. IP: Logged |
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 7601 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 12, 2012 11:14 AM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/feb/11/sun-journalists-arrested?fb=native rupee is "committed" to keeping the SUN going. probably for its integrity and depth, dontcha think? IP: Logged |
juniperb Moderator Posts: 3412 From: Blue Star Kachina Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 12, 2012 12:01 PM
psssttt good to see you back around kat & node ------------------ Your task is not to seek for love, but merely to seek and find all the barriers within yourself that you have built against it. ~Rumi~ IP: Logged |
Node Knowflake Posts: 1761 From: 1,981 mi East of Truth or Consequences NM Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 12, 2012 11:27 PM
Thanks for that....in a hyperlink I found this piece: The difficulty is that nothing, not even the arrival in Britain of Rupert Murdoch bearing reassurance, can automatically put the Sun on the survival list now. The procedures that Murdoch and his News Corporation board have sealed in place make such certainties impossible. This is an almost fatalistic process. News Corporation in New York has its managements and standards committee operating here. That committee, led by Lord Grabiner QC, is independent of Wapping. It does not tell Dominic Mohan, the Sun editor, when some of his most senior staff are about to be arrested; it simply passes millions of emails to the police, on site, running Operation Elveden, the investigation that is hunting corrupt cops, civil servants – and journalists offering cash for information. Elveden, as its supreme commander, deputy assistant commissioner Sue Akers, told Lord Justice Leveson last week, is boosting its numbers from 40 to 61 in order to trawl this Sun material in detail. These inquiries are "nearer the beginning than the end". Meanwhile Sun journalists are being arrested at a rate not far short of two a week as this investigation proceeds. At this pace, there may be nobody left to bring out the paper in 12 months – and any reassurances will be redundant. Nor is there much that Murdoch can do about it. But then take three weighty factors into account. One is that there's all the difference in the world between arrests and charges. Scotland Yard, even today, may not want to see dozens of reporters and editors hauled into court to defend themselves, each in different circumstances, against charges of "aiding and abetting" crime. Was anyone here, waving a cheque book, pursuing a clear public interest story? Will it, some weary years on, seem sensible to adopt a blanket approach? Another is whether reporters paying up for a story are responsible or merely following higher editorial – and thus company – demands. Where does the buck stop? At James Murdoch, at Rupert himself? No one can be sure what a jury would conclude. Journalists, under the Press Complaints Commission code, have a duty to protect their sources. But these sources are now being shopped by the company that offered to shield them (before it changed its mind under the duress of its own disgrace). Twelve good men and true may have their own, unpredictable views on this. And then there's the bigger picture. Take away the £650m or more in revenue that the Sun brings in every year and what's left of News International – the Times and Sunday Times – would look simply unsustainable. They've made total losses of £175m over the last three years, paid for by Sun and News of the World profits: an implicit deal that has kept Murdoch's restless shareholders at bay. But, without his two redtops, the burden is big enough to make Russian oligarchs, let alone the News Corp board, flinch. Would anybody want to come to the rescue in such dire circumstances? Most relevantly, what would be the future of the retail and distribution trade that depends on mass titles? There are thousands upon thousands of corner-shop and freighting jobs at risk here. No wonder Fleet Street is muttering "Be careful what you wish for" under its breath.
_______________________________ The author posses a few good questions. Not the least of which "be careful what you wish for" the fissures in the bedrock are as tentacles-- with far reaching impact. The number of investigators used (60) is six times the number that the new "forclosure police" are using in the U.S....you know the feds who are out protecting us against bank raptors? Rupert Murdoch is no longer master of his business's destiny IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 4916 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 12, 2012 11:34 PM
Simply horrible!Fox News reports there were/are riots and protests in Russia over Russian election results. Everyone knows there were no riots or protests over the recent Russian elections. Whatever was Fox News thinking!! IP: Logged |
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 7601 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 13, 2012 11:24 AM
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4124870/The-Suns-Trevor-Kavanagh-Witch-hunt-puts-us-behind-ex-Soviet-states-on-Press-freedom.html in what may be the sun's first ever real news story, the actions of the police look like making a case for dismissing any charges they may come up with ... IP: Logged |
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 7601 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 13, 2012 11:29 AM
jwhop do you not understand the difference between reporting something and printing false images to enhance that report? fox did this with tea party rallies, too, editing film to make it look like there were more people there than actually attended.pics of GREEK riots are not news footage of RUSSIAN riots. truth is truth, and embellishment is embellishment. the fact that embellishment has been the SPECIALTY of murdoch's "news" reports for decades is the point. and frequently "embellishment" is used in place of "fabricated". you heard it from his own mouth, rupee does not think "news" and "truth" are necessarily bound together. storytelling is a better definition of what his papers and broadcasting mediae indulge in. IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 4916 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 13, 2012 02:20 PM
All "right" thinking leftists know there could not possibly be any riots or protests against the Socialist Putin regime!IP: Logged |
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 7601 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 14, 2012 02:38 PM
not sure why you mention leftists unless you have just run out of taunts?i am not discussing the form of government in russia but the fabrication of SO-CALLED news images. whether people actually rioted in russia, which they do periodically! has nothing to do with whether FOX is capable of supplying footage of same - and whether FOX will just supply pictures that LOOK like they are actually johnny on the spot recording NEWS when they are truly FABRICATING same.
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katatonic Knowflake Posts: 7601 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 14, 2012 03:46 PM
of course the little falsifications are just the TIP of the iceberg now becoming visible.only a matter of time, as this article suggests, until one of those thrown under the bus squawks loud and clear? As the evidence mounts that much of Murdoch’s journalism was built on illegal invasions of privacy and corrupt relationships with police, three questions remain in urgent need of answers: Why should British authorities permit an in-house News Corporation committee, regardless of how fragrant its members may be, to serve as gatekeepers of the company’s records—especially when there is abundant evidence of efforts to destroy or delete incriminating evidence? In light of the latest arrests relating to corrupt payment to government officials, and bearing in mind actor Jude Law’s claim that his phone was hacked on his arrival at JFK airport, when will the Justice Department get serious about its own investigations? (There is also the lesser question of whether we are really to believe that methods which consistently delivered tabloid gold for editors and reporters in Britain would be too sleazy to tempt the high-minded hacks at the New York Post?) And finally, what did the Murdochs know and when did they know it? Unlikely as it might have seemed in July, we may be about to find out. As more News Corp. executives come to believe they are being sacrificed to protect Rupert’s succession plan, the probability increases that someone who knows the answer will decide to cooperate with authorities. This gives the Justice Department, in particular, enormous leverage. In 2009 Siemens paid $800 million in fines for violating the FCPA—which also provides for possible prison sentences of up to five years. Amid the steady drumbeat of revelations from London it is important to keep an eye—and ear—on Washington. That’s where you’ll hear the sound of the other shoe dropping
http://www.thenation.com/blog/166207/when-will-justice-department-get-serious-about-murdoch IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 4916 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 14, 2012 06:46 PM
Hahaha The most trusted news network in America is FOX NEWS...and, the Wall Street Journal is doing just fine, thank you very much! On the other hand, the word on the street is that The Nation has only 3 readers and 2 of them don't trust what The Nation has to say! No one with 2 braincells left believes a word they hear on MSNBC...and rightfully so. IP: Logged |
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 7601 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 14, 2012 09:32 PM
did you hear rush's ratings slipped about 30% last year? fox news is also losing its grip, and the debacle over the pond is costing rupee plenty - money that is usually spent shoring up his airplay and printing ops. people are tired of spite and scandal.IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 4916 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 15, 2012 12:19 AM
Let me repeat..since you didn't get it the first time around.Fox News IS the most trusted news network in the United States. I already substantiated this statement. Would you care to state a case that this isn't true?
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katatonic Knowflake Posts: 7601 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 15, 2012 01:31 PM
i am not interested in what the masses think of the stations made available to them. in many places, fox is only on the air because they gave away advertising for years (courtesy of the SUN's profits apparently) to maintain their presence until people got used to it.i am interested in whether the news, trusted or not, is made up of facts or fabrications. the trust is going to prove misguided and therefore temporary in due time! IP: Logged |
shura Knowflake Posts: 344 From: Registered: Jun 2009
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posted February 15, 2012 01:55 PM
Very easy to believe that Fox fans trust their perferred media outlet. Those in the habit of questioning mass media don't much tune into Fox. IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 4916 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 15, 2012 05:20 PM
No the really smart leftists don't tune in Fox News.The really smart leftists, both of them, watch MSNBC. IP: Logged |
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 7601 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 15, 2012 06:00 PM
fox may be a late comer but if it's not mass media i don't know what is. they have a bazillion stations on radio and tv bought and paid for. a high percentage of their entertainment programs are trash or just above, and their news...the skill of a conman is that he gets people to trust him! IP: Logged |
shura Knowflake Posts: 344 From: Registered: Jun 2009
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posted February 24, 2012 05:24 PM
MSNBC? Is that still up and running? The one with Rachel Maddow? Sweet Jesus, she grates on my nerves. I'd like to throw Maddow and Coulter in a locked room and throw away the key. Screaming banshees, the both of them.Yes, I agree that Fox is a part of the mass media. It's fashionable to presnet yourself as an alternative, rogue element and most are gullible enough to buy that angle so long as they're told what they want to hear. I think those who prefer Fox exclusively aren't searching for information so much as confirmation. I do know of more than a few hardcore leftists who watch Fox with some regularity. Sometimes for entertainment, sometimes to get a better handle on what the enemy is up to. IP: Logged |
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 7601 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 03, 2012 12:01 PM
and POOR rush limbaugh, apparently his sponsors are running out of patience and pulling out of the flak-zone. will murdoch & co run to his aid or throw him under the bus d'you think? i agree with him, his slander victims can mostly take care of themselves. i would be surprised if there weren't a major lawsuit coming out of his latest attempt to paint contraception as "pimping". the fact that he is apparently completely ignorant of the fact that the amount of sex you have has NOTHING to do with the dose is a minor point, but shows him up for the ignorant bigot that he is, or at least PLAYS on air. IP: Logged |