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Topic: What if 51 % of the people voted to oppress the other 49%?
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amelia28
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posted March 20, 2012 03:20 AM
  
"What if 51 % of the people voted to oppress the other 49%? Would that society truly be free?" -Thomas Mullen
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katatonic
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posted March 20, 2012 03:54 AM
http://crooksandliars.com/jon-perr/reagan-proved-deficits-dont-matter IP: Logged |
Node
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From: 1,981 mi East of Truth or Consequences NM
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posted March 20, 2012 03:18 PM
Excellent article from one of my favorite websites...(it's on my web-bar) C&L  truly amazing that people can be duped so easily against their better interests~ even when it is the elephant in the room.  IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted March 20, 2012 03:55 PM
That's why pure democracy is undesirable. America is (thankfully) a Republic.------------------
"Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark IP: Logged |
amelia28
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posted April 02, 2012 07:27 PM
yes the USA is indeed a Republic but many people including presidents call it a democracy. A lot of people don't understand what a republic is and think America is a democracy bc there is a lot of propaganda about America been a democracy. This is why I felt it was important to post this.IP: Logged |
PixieJane
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From: CA
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posted April 03, 2012 07:18 PM
Reminds me of Prop 8 in California. I think it passed with 52% IIRC. Of course most (though not all) people who are sure to make the point that we live in a Republic where minorities are protected from the majority rather than a Democracy where 51% of the people can vote to make others second class citizens support this vote and don't want to see the courts do away with it. However, Ron Paul is the rare exception to stick to his rhetoric even when it's inconvenient to do so, so my criticism doesn't extend to him on this. IP: Logged |
NativelyJoan
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posted April 04, 2012 11:06 AM
Any past or current political framework for establishing a society is highly flawed and undesirable including a democratic-republic society. As if individuals within a society need to be ruled by an elected official or representative. These concepts are outdated and flawed. Even in a Republic there cannot be freedom. It goes against the very foundations of the concept of freedom. There would be flexibility in such a society however no freedom. These societies were created to control people, many of their foundations have their roots in Christianity and other highly biased and oppressive religions. They are based on the assumption that in order to be free human beings need systematic laws. It's the excuse the pilgrims used when oppressing and killing the indigenous Americans and hijacking their land. Freedom isn't something you think or say, it's something you believe and something you live. Regardless of what we think in our democratic-republic society here in the US, we aren't free and have never been free. Let's think back to slavery. The founding fathers vowed freedom while they captured and enslaved thousands of Africans for decades before slavery was abolished. Freedom on who's terms exactly? Freedom cannot exist within the grounds of our limited and restrictive democratic-republic society. It goes against the very basis of the ideology. The minute we vote for an elected official we give away the right to our own individual freedom and the welfare of our lives. It's honestly incredibly amusing to me to see "Republic" in the same sentence as freedom. Plato lived in a very different time period then we do today. Oh the hypocrisy. Sidenote: Ron Paul is insane. IP: Logged |
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