posted March 25, 2012 12:18 PM            

i very much doubt gates is stupid enough to come right out and say that vaccines will help control the population explosion, even if he meant it...something doesn't add up here!

posted April 02, 2012 07:34 PM            

Personally I don't like birth control pills. If you take them long enough your fertility rate decreases causing infertility, can give you breast cancer, migraines, can result in obesity, can cause blood clots, etc...I took them for two weeks when I was a teenager and noticed my sex drive decreased a lot and that my personal part was dry which it never is.

Personally I just watch my cycle carefully and that has worked for me so far.

posted April 02, 2012 07:44 PM            

i am not saying bill gates is a great guy. but there are plenty of people who buy the GMO line that modified food is better than no food for people who regularly go without...i have met plenty of well-meaning people who think this.

in fact GMO food really hasn't proved either good OR bad for humans...yet. because we have a long life cycle it takes a lot longer to see if it affects us than, for instance, rats.

i just think it strange that he would say what he is heard to say on this tape. EVERYone misspeaks occasionally.

just for the record, a LOT of people think the world would be better for those living if there were some way to make more conscious choices about childbearing. that in itself is not evil. the fact that we have yet to come up with a foolproof way to have sex without babies - and may NEVER! find one - doesn't stop people trying. but if we keep reproducing compulsively and unconsciously we are going to feel the squeeze in a lot of ways, disease, food shortages and water probs among them...

in fact if decreased fertility were the only side effect of GMOs a lot of people would happily eat them...we just don't know.

i have yet to hear of vaccines being fertility-threatening. except on this tape, which as i said, was made years ago and a lot of babes have been born since.

posted April 02, 2012 07:59 PM            

PLEASEE WATCH THIS DOCUMENTARY, THE FUTURE OF FOOD:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnD-DiDRIJA&feature=related

watch the whole thing so you understand why I dont like GMO seeds thoroughly.

As for vaccines been dangerous there is a lot information out there on this. Read this article for now:
http://www.pakalertpress.com/2012/03/30/vaccines-and-autism-the-secret-that-you-are-not-supposed-to-know/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

posted April 02, 2012 08:15 PM            

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Originally posted by amelia28:
Bill gates is not a good guy, he is also an advocate of GMO seeds and if you look closely at everything he supports, sponsors, and funds you will notice that is related to population control.

Personally I don't like birth control pills. If you take them long enough your fertility rate decreases causing infertility, can give you breast cancer, migraines, can result in obesity, can cause blood clots, etc...I took them for two weeks when I was a teenager and noticed my sex drive decreased a lot and that my personal part was dry which it never is.

Personally I just watch my cycle carefully and that has worked for me so far.

http://www.ditchthepill.org/

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I BET you Bill does not touch that garbage GMO food.

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posted April 02, 2012 08:17 PM            

in europe labelling of gmos is used. in america we have monsanto in the fda henhouse. so the fda is protecting monsanto's interests, yes. they are moving out of europe tail between legs...labelling helped a lot, but it did take years...

i don't like them either, amelia, but the jury is not in on ALL gmos for sure.

the canola seeds harvested by that canadian farmer were reproducing seeds.

i think a calm and skeptical attitude and a LOT of research are in order. not jumping up and down every time i see a scary video. i have seen too many of them and many were just plain bogus.

have you signed the petitions to get labelling (at the very least) and more research before "passing" these inventions on to the public?

or to get michael taylor (monsanto's homing pigeon) out of the FDA?

posted April 02, 2012 08:41 PM            

I forgot to mention that if a farmer is next to a land that uses GMO seeds and those seeds travel to their land which it often happens this farmer will be forced to stop farming bc GMO seeds are patented and once GMO seeds touch your land the seeds that you were using before will no longer be able to grow in your land. On top of it Monsanto made sure a law got passed so that they are not liable for this and Monsanto has sued money farmers for supposedly using their patented seeds resulting in these farmers going bankrupt even though those seeds migrated to their land and they did not want to do anything with them. This is eliminating a lot of middle class farmers.

I don't JUMP when I see a scary video, I do my research as well btw.

posted April 02, 2012 08:42 PM            

Mercury Levels in Premature and Low Birth Weight Newborns after Receipt of Thimerosal-Containing Vaccines

Michael E. Pichichero, MD,a Angela Gentile, MD,b Norberto Giglio, MD,b Margarita Martin Alonso, MD,c Maria Veronica Fernandez Mentaberri, MD,c Grazyna Zareba, PhD,a Thomas Clarkson, PhD,a Carlos Gotelli, PhD,d Mariano Gotelli, Phd,d Lihan Yan, MS,e and John Treanor, MDa

posted April 03, 2012 01:47 PM            

this is a misconception. the "canola farmer" i mentioned above WON his case when monsanto tried to sue him for "stealing" "their" seeds from his own crop...

posted April 04, 2012 03:16 AM            

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Originally posted by katatonic:
[b]I forgot to mention that if a farmer is next to a land that uses GMO seeds and those seeds travel to their land which it often happens this farmer will be forced to stop farming bc GMO seeds are patented and once GMO seeds touch your land the seeds that you were using before will no longer be able to grow in your land. On top of it Monsanto made sure a law got passed so that they are not liable for this and Monsanto has sued money farmers for supposedly using their patented seeds resulting ... - amelia

this is a misconception. the "canola farmer" i mentioned above WON his case when monsanto tried to sue him for "stealing" "their" seeds from his own crop...

monsanto are LOSING the battle. that is why they are so keen to keep the labelling out here in the US...the california ballot in november will have this issue on it. it is a race against time for sure...[/B]

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That is one farmer who won, there are a lot who have lost and Monsanto has made sure that a law that says that the farmers are liable if the seeds migrate to their land got passed but if you get a good judge that sees this as an unconstitutional law the judge will favor the farmer but not all judges are like that.

Another good article about autism and its connection to vaccines:

78 percent increase in childhood autism rates over past decade coincides with sharp uptick in vaccination schedules

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/035452_autism_vaccinations_children.html#ixzz1r3Ndwwa1

posted April 05, 2012 05:02 PM            

in vermont this fight is at a crucial point: http://www.alternet.org/story/15 4855/monsanto_threatens_to_sue_vermont_if_legislators_pass_a_bill_requiring_gmo_food_to_be_labeled?page=entire