posted May 01, 2012 10:32 PM            

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Originally posted by NativelyJoan:
so out of balance T! The world is just a mess. It's my Libra energy agreeing with you lol. As always!

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((((hugs)))) to you, Miss Adorableness. lol

posted May 01, 2012 11:19 PM            

The one thing I don't understand is they will complain about jobs and the economy.

Yet, the majority of those people will go out and waste there money on the next "ijunk".

Its an oxy-moron because at the same time there complaining about corporations and yet there also making Apple, a vary big corporation rich at the same time.

Do they realize the devices are all made by foxxcom in Taiwan, all of it is produced outside of the US, vary little jobs in the US.

What happen to the mentality of instead of complaining about the economic mess or lack of employment, I go out and start my own private business.

posted May 02, 2012 05:14 AM            

However, it can't work because it is against human nature. That is why I am pulling my hair out.

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posted May 02, 2012 06:55 AM            

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Isn't that what made America great at one time and other nation envious?.

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posted May 02, 2012 07:28 AM            

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Originally posted by SpooL:
Blame "Heard mentality" and social media.

The one thing I don't understand is they will complain about jobs and the economy.

Yet, the majority of those people will go out and waste there money on the next "ijunk".

Its an oxy-moron because at the same time there complaining about corporations and yet there also making Apple, a vary big corporation rich at the same time.

Do they realize the devices are all made by foxxcom in Taiwan, all of it is produced outside of the US, vary little jobs in the US.

What happen to the mentality of instead of complaining about the economic mess or lack of employment, I go out and start my own private business.

Isn't that what made America great at one time and other nation envious?.

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Yes, that is the "American spirit" which older generations had. We can't go forward as a country without it.

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posted May 02, 2012 08:21 AM            

I know you are Canadian, but are you a paycheck earner and tax payer? How would like to pay a 90% marginal tax rate?

You want to tax me at 90%? Really?!!

posted May 02, 2012 09:11 AM            

Romney Heckled At NYC Firehouse Event: "You're A Racist"

While delivering remarks outside of a New York City firehouse with former Mayor Rudy Giuliani, presumptive Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney was heckled by a woman yelling, "Mitt Romney, you're a racist!" nearly a dozen times.

The woman also hurled several expletives at the presidential hopeful, including "**** you, Mitt Romney!"
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/05/01/romney_heckled_at_nyc_firehouse_event_youre_a_racist.html

They're all about shutting those up with whom they disagree...typical Marxist Socialist Progressive Anarchist tactics. These people are NOT LIBERALS!

"Occupy" Movement Was Infiltrated By FBI Informant In Cleveland Bridge Bombing Probe

The federal probe that resulted last night in the arrest of five purported anarchists for allegedly plotting to bomb an Ohio bridge began last year at an Occupy Wall Street rally in Cleveland that was infiltrated by an informant who was directed to attend the event by his FBI handlers.
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/fbi/fbi-informant-infiltrated-occupy-movement-758348

The "Occupiers" are aligned with the re-elect O'Bomber campaign and every other "I hate America" individual and group in America...including those associated with the America hater George Soros.

But, at the end of the day, the "Occupiers" are nothing but a bunch of leftist fringe radicals spewing hate and trying to overthrow our system of government, the rule of law and everything else that made and makes America great.

They're not going to succeed.

posted May 02, 2012 09:41 AM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
Aquacheeka,

I know you are Canadian, but are you a paycheck earner and tax payer? How would like to pay a 90% marginal tax rate?

You want to tax me at 90%? Really?!!

I'll lay off the profanity only because Randall doesn't like it.

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YTA, why do you insist on taking everything here so personally, like everything is being said directly TO you? You're like one of those slightly irritating people who goes around looking for things to take offense to, lol.

http://www.usatoday.com/money/perfi/taxes/2010-05-10-taxes_N.htm

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Those saying taxes are "too high" remain near a 50-year low.

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RepubliCONS won't be happy until they don't have to pay anything at all.

Fact is the wealthiest income earners pay the fewest taxes because of offshore banking. America is getting poorer while Barbados (tax haven) has been named a developed country with a stable economy and Switzerland (tax haven) never even experienced a recession.

posted May 02, 2012 10:14 AM            

"Fact is the wealthiest income earners pay the fewest taxes because of offshore banking."

The truly wealthy...like Warren "The Hypocrite" Buffett are not subject to the "ordinary income tax rates" because they take their income in in the form of "long term Capital Gains and Dividends" which are taxed at the "Capital Gains" tax rate of 15%.

Buffett owes the federal government more than 1 BILLION DOLLARS in unpaid taxes going back to the early 2000s.

Warren "The Hypocrite" Buffett should sit down and keep his hypocritical mouth firmly shut about US income tax policy.

posted May 02, 2012 10:34 AM            

"According to the poll, 24 percent of people think all taxes should take less than 10 percent of a person's income. Another 43 percent think they should take less than 20 percent. And an additional 22 percent of people think the tax burden should be no more than 30 percent of income."

"In short, the tax burden is well above the level that at least two-thirds of Americans think should be the maximum and right at the level that 90 percent of them believe should be the absolute limit."
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2006/04/are_americans_overtaxed.html

Now, let's see Aquacheeka; exactly who was in control of the US federal government in the year that poll was taken?

"RepubliCONS won't be happy until they don't have to pay anything at all."...Aquacheeka

Guess what Aquacheeka; it was those RepubliCONS you just libeled with your nonsense because there was a Republican President and a Republican Congress who were writing tax policy for the US!

posted May 02, 2012 12:14 PM            

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From a factual perspective, what helped make America great (when it rose to #1 in the world post-WWII) was lack of competition from rebuilding nations, and a tax structure that the top income earners were taxed 90% of their income. That is not an exaggeration. In the 1950s, it was a full 90%. This and the auto industry are essentially what built the middle class.

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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
..This and the auto industry are essentially what built the middle class.

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Militarily yes, economical no. With rebuilding nations the only real military threat was the USSR. That is how the US remain the dominant power.

Economical developed countries are always at risk from newly developing countries because of cheap labor and imports.

The American auto industry in the 1950's was all ready under threat from cheap auto imports, particularly from West Germany.

The Volkswagen Type 2 line was already threatening the US automakers in the 1950's.

It was cheap and reliable. It got to one point that a trade war began between the US and Germany began.

President Johnson eventually imposed a 25% tariff on all light trucks and products from west Germany.

http://bizcovering.com/business-and-society/protectionism-and-american-automak ers%E2%80%99-woes/

Fast forward to the 2011, the biggest threat for N. America is the rapid growth of South Korean products.

Samsung will/is the next Sony, Hyundai/Kia are gradually becoming the next Toyota.

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posted May 02, 2012 12:22 PM            

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But, at the end of the day, the "Occupiers" are nothing but a bunch of leftist fringe radicals spewing hate and trying to overthrow our system of government, the rule of law and everything else that made and makes America great.

They're not going to succeed.

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Cause everyone who desires change and accountability in this society clearly hates America! Right...

This world isn't black and white even though that concept was taken literally for a period of time in this great country we call the US. The ashes are still settling from that horrific period in time.

posted May 02, 2012 12:27 PM            

That is because I am directly affected by your gibberish. I'm not some jet setting millionaire but I am taxed at the highest marginal US rate and you want to jack my marginal tax rate to 90%.

I'm not some high faluting Mitt or Warren who earns income principally from capital gains. I bust my assets 14 hours a day to feed the liberal debt ridden budget busting bureaucracy in Washington and you, a Canadian, have the audacity to suggest raising my marginal tax rate to 90%? I don't have some Offshore SPV in the Cayman Islands to offset my tax liability. I pay my taxes on time like every other honest US citizen, and you, a Canadian, want to make my life miserable?

posted May 02, 2012 01:21 PM            

Its nothing personal and I know your no dummy, but tax is a sensitive issue to Americans, keep in mind most of the users on lindaland are American.

There is a reason why you'll always hear the words "tax-evasion" and "tax-avoidance" coming from the US and rarely ever in Canada.

Even if the taxation was fair, Americans will still complain. Its part of American culture to hate taxes.

posted May 02, 2012 01:52 PM            

when i said "calling for it is just a first step" i did NOT say "toward a better world" did I? when will you people stop reading into what is said and "GET REAL"? how about talking to what people actually say and not what rush limbaugh interprets them as saying? a general strike would cause havoc. that is a very good way to get people's attention but i doubt very much if firefighters, nurses etc would go along with it unless (as in the case of nurses) they knew they would be covered by substitutes. and i doubt very much that the US will ever be that cohesive as to actually carry off a general strike even of nonessential workers.

we all know that any critical body of people or members of this board who think america could improve itself will be lambasted by jwhop as "america haters" DESPITE THE FACT THAT HE OBVIOUSLY THINKS AMERICA NEEDS A LOT OF IMPROVEMENT TOO.

i have no truck with vandalism and the like, but i think the actions of a negative minority are clouding the issue there.

i find it strange that detractors take more note of what is said on the hater stations than of what T who has given firsthand accounts says.

posted May 02, 2012 01:56 PM            

i believe it was citigroup's shareholders - could be wrong on the name - who recently nixed the BOD's decision to pay huge salaries and bonuses to its CEOs. because they have LEARNED TO CARE.

things are changing and whether you agree with OWSers claims and aims or not, they are stirring the pot. for that alone they are valuable whether they ever accomplish a single "aim" directly or not, transparency is increasing and the little people are getting more involved.

posted May 02, 2012 01:56 PM            

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Even if the taxation was fair, Americans will still complain. Its part of the American culture to hate taxes.

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Interesting spool, I am one who likes modern & safe infrastructure among other nifty modern items, how would I have it IF I wasn`t taxed?

It`s not that we are taxed but that the tax burden isn`t shared fairly. Give me a flat tax anyday & you won`t hear much about an "unfair" tax burden

posted May 02, 2012 01:58 PM            

why is it that the rich need MORE MONEY to be motivated, while the poor need to be DEPRIVED to be motivated?

posted May 02, 2012 02:20 PM            

Anyone who thinks the Occupiers are merely a bunch of anarchists needs to watch first hand live feeds of what they are actually saying.

posted May 02, 2012 02:38 PM            

i do believe that capital gains are income and should be taxed as such, and that the rich can afford to pay a higher percentage rate than the poor. because the poor man spends HALF his money on food while the rich man only 5%.

the poor man has no "business" expenses except for those of daily life, which are not deductible except in bare minimum...while a rich man's "taxable" income can be vastly reduced by deductions which contribute to that very income, and which cover many of the same expenses as the poor man's (food, lodging etc can all be deductible in large part).

the world has changed, the country has changed and grown way bigger, and so government has also gotten bigger. i am not so sure there is ANY way to avoid this if we want a government AT ALL. if we were all more like islands we might not need one, but i have no inclination to live in somalia or anything like it.

posted May 02, 2012 02:56 PM            

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Aquacheeka,

Its nothing personal and I know your no dummy, but tax is a sensitive issue to Americans, keep in mind most of the users on lindaland are American.

There is a reason why you'll always hear the words "tax-evasion" and "tax-avoidance" coming from the US and rarely ever in Canada.

Even if the taxation was fair, Americans will still complain. Its part of American culture to hate taxes.

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