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Randall
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posted May 18, 2012 11:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, and your so-called conclusions about Rush are absurd.

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posted May 18, 2012 11:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I cannot take anyone programmed by Rush Limbaugh seriously.

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posted May 18, 2012 11:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AcousticGod, that picture is hilarious!


I never noticed the resemblance before .

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posted May 18, 2012 11:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by katatonic:
ami had almost directly quoted rush from his show this morning...the "exotic" and affirmative action slant is straight out of his mouth.

the further explanation was not verbatim, but summed up his conclusions nicely.

ami may NOT be a racist, but that probably depends on whether rush defines himself as one.

he claims not, but then spends half his air time trying to scare his listeners about how racist all the black, foreign and gay folk out there are. hmmm...

conclusion;;; rush doesn't care about the colour of THEIR skin but he needs you to be VERY AFRAID that they care about the colour of YOURS (if you're white).



Well, this explains the entire misunderstanding. They were quotes from Rush Limbaugh, and everyone knows that Rush Limbaugh is racist.
http://newsone.com/16051/top-10-racist-limbaugh-quotes/, http://mediamatters.org/blog/201203070015

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posted May 19, 2012 12:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don't believe everything you read on the internet. I seriously doubt any of those so-called quotes are remotely legit. Even the author of the article said he couldn't verify them. And just for the record, Rush actually supported a Colin Powell presidency run, as did many Republicans. I personally found him to be a real hero. If I recall correctly, it was the Democrats who were against him.

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posted May 19, 2012 12:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If this derailed string doesn't get off the topic of race, I will have to close it. Sorry, Juni.

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posted May 19, 2012 01:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Getting back to the topic, just saw this on Yahoo:
http://news.yahoo.com/arizona-elections-chief-seeks-proof-obamas-citizenship-004619483.html

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posted May 19, 2012 05:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There were 30 quotes in total Randall, I posted a second article that was published in 2012. Also, we already know that Rush sad something that smacks of racism just this morning .

As for there being "a minority of racists in either party," it's really just a matter of perspective. Your minority is my sizeable amount when you have anywhere from 1 in 5 to 1 in 2 Southern Republicans openly admitting they are racist. Given the climate of social stigma against being openly racist that liberals have created, we can assume the actual numbers are higher. Frankly, I do tend to hold the racially-charged comments of Republicans from the south to greater scrutiny, and with VERY good reason.

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posted May 19, 2012 09:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Why can't the talking heads use real issues? there are certainly plenty of them.

Real issues....

Interesting in the light of the concerns I have seen presented that I don`t perceive as an election "issue"

But, hey, perception, perception, perception.

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posted May 19, 2012 09:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Obama hopes to keep us focused away from the real issues (for which he has no answers), or else his future looks grim, so you might say his goal is divisiveness.

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posted May 19, 2012 09:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just read the rest of this thread .

All I have to say is thanks for the vote of confidence Node.
AQ, any gripes about my mod style, tell me about it.
Sooner or later Ami Anne , it was gonna bite your butt and AG, I owe you a big thanks & an e mail.

Oh and I don`t like Rush and wouldn`t listen to him if paid to.

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posted May 19, 2012 09:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All the talking heads are trying to divert us and it seems they are doing a pretty good job of it. But, guess that`s what they get paid to do.

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posted May 19, 2012 09:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Back on track. I didn`t think of the affirmative action angle. It would be worth a thought as he wasn`t political yet but looking for a good shot at a school, right?

And back then ( and now to me )Kenya did sound exotic, at least to me being a country girl and as far from Harvard as one can get.

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posted May 19, 2012 10:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Rush came up with the affirmative action thought. The thing with this becoming public is that O'Bomber LIED. He either lied to make his book look better, get into school or for some other reason we don't know.

If he was born in Kenya, he lied to become President. If he was not born in Kenya, he lied for one of the above reasons.

I think the news media is washing their hands of him.If not, it would not have come out. His transcripts have NEVER come out. Not yet, anyway.

When they do, he will be gone imho

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posted May 19, 2012 10:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's clear that he was quite okay with people thinking he was born in Kenya up till his idea to pursue the presidency. He approved the final draft for the book. And since he isn't releasing his college records, he most likely committed fraud to get financial aid. That says a lot about his character. And we already know about his coke snorting during school. But was he actually born in Kenya? Probably not. Still, the lack of character is what disturbs me. Plus, the fact that he bows to Saudi kings. And, of course, his complete and utter lack of understanding about the economy eclipsed with his Socialist agenda.

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posted May 19, 2012 10:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yep, Rush doesn't think he was born in Kenya either. That would be a criminal offense to lie about. Wouldn't it, Randall?

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posted May 19, 2012 01:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All the talking heads are trying to divert us and it seems they are doing a pretty good job of it. But, guess that`s what they get paid to do - juni....how very true. that is their JOB as far as i can tell. though some make SENSE and others are just absurd.

no randall, listening to rush is just for firsthand info on what people are listening to. he is transparently bent on transforming facts into his version of paranoia....perhaps you listened too much. while the general premise he pushes DOES make sense, it is only if you don't look beneath the glossy surface. the man is grasping at straws to twist any actual fact that comes his way into a version that will PROVE (kind of like jwhop thinks he proves things) that the intent was to enchain the white male population in some kind of vendetta. this is karmic fear, of retribution, and it is all over the airwaves courtesy of the bigger pockets of his boss...

as to you "accepting" me on "your side" such a statement proves to me you have no idea what i have been talking about! i do give obama the benefit of the doubt because i appreciate people who can keep some perspective, but the problem is not only in the white house, as some would like to believe or at least convince others of.

all i want is a congress who do their job and not the bidding of lobbyists, who can see past the "perks" to actually legislating, a president who does the same, and a supreme court who do NOT legislate from the bench.

several of the conservatives here admit they were liberals when younger, till they "saw the light" (started listening to rush?) but i would have fit more in the conservative, small gov camp when younger. i still don't want stifling regulations and rules, but i have come to see that if big business is not regulated there IS NO FREE MARKET. it gets sewn up by the big-bigger-biggest. there's a chart on the net that shows exactly how many companies own pretty much every product most people buy, there are only a handful of them. what is free about this market?

also the world has changed. countries are coming up and going down all the time, we have global awareness and trade, and sorry, trying to run in place forever is a self-defeating race.

and now we have a presidential hopeful who thinks REAL ESTATE should be grabbed up by the biggest investors too...how wonderful a world, where a couple of companies own our food, water, power and housing...NOT.

not to mention that romney when challenged on contradicting himself 3 months ago insists that though he can't remember what he said then, he stands by it...with no hint of sarcasm or suspicion that he has FIVE MINUTES ago said the opposite...

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posted May 19, 2012 01:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
as to the press release saying obama was born in africa, if anyone here has ever had to proof a book or record or movie there is a LOT of stuff to go over, and something ALWAYS gets missed.

i had a single cover once that was meant to be black on white (the song was "paint it black" for crying out loud) and the art department received a proof with instructions but thought blue would be less scary, or more inviting, whatever, so they printed up thousands of copies in blue and white. THAT was glaring, but the effort to get it redone was so great it took weeks to complete. a single is a flash in the pan, which means MOST of the copies bought were blue and white.

this is the most logical, everyday explanation for the BIG PROBLEM of someone claiming obama was born in kenya, rather than from kenyan stock.

IF you are not looking for conspiratorial evidence...

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posted May 19, 2012 01:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
as to rush, i have listened to him take inane, unthreatening facts and quotes and twist them to his agenda every time i've listened to him. frankly his voice makes me want to vomit. years ago hannity was on when i was doing a driving job and i listened to him for the same reason, for awhile, until i realized i was getting headaches for the first (and last) time in my life, and switched him off permanently. rush is something i can only take in small increments, and i only listen to him so i can see where the sheep are coming from.

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posted May 19, 2012 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Honestly, Kat, I can't imagine where someone like you is coming from. The only think I can liken it to was when I was in college. I was super liberal and had a big attitude like Aquacheeka
I even worked at an abortion clinic. I would have thought people like I am now rolled off the turnip truck as it was heading for Rubes Ville.

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posted May 19, 2012 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
why don't you ask rush, ami? though he knows me not, i am sure he can tell you what to think about me.

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posted May 19, 2012 02:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by katatonic:
why don't you ask rush, ami? though he knows me not, i am sure he can tell you what to think about me.

I told you that I used to think like you in some ways, but not in many, as my background is very different but I do understand Liberals as I was one.

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posted May 19, 2012 02:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
in what way do you assume your background is very different from mine?

i see a lot of assumptions here, randall is "clear" that obama had no trouble being considered african, you are "clear" that you know my background,

and that there are only a couple of POSSIBLE explanations for this very important mystery...only others have been suggested, so i guess there might even be MORE possibilities NONE of us has considered.

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posted May 19, 2012 02:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
and i still wonder why you keep mentioning working in an abortion clinic as a badge of "liberalism"? you think conservative women don't get abortions????

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posted May 19, 2012 03:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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You keep listening to Rush, Kat, and you will finally see the light. I used to watch the Rush tv show to make fun of him. Finally, I could no longer ignore the mountain of facts he presented right out of the mouth of President Clinton himself in video. I had assumed global warming was true and all of the other liberal nonsense. But thanks to Rush, I began to question and to think independently. We will gladly accept you on our side, Kat. Just keep listening to Rush. "Rush is right" should be your daily mantra.

I know Kat's already addressed this, but Kat's listening to Rush is a perfect example of what I was counseling Ami on in the other thread. Kat pays attention to sources in spite of their origin. She doesn't shut out information simply because it comes from someone on the Right. By doing this, she exposes herself to a wider field of input, and is able to think and speak about things more coherently. Clearly she is beholden to no particular talking head, and thinks for herself. Kudos.

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while the general premise he pushes DOES make sense, it is only if you don't look beneath the glossy surface. the man is grasping at straws to twist any actual fact that comes his way into a version that will PROVE

Indeed. He's very much like Karl Rove, which is to say that he's a spin doctor. He spins things that are troubling into things that aren't troubling and vice versa to suit the cause.

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