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katatonic
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posted May 23, 2012 06:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
you are attempting to exonerate zimmerman by saying he went back to his truck. who was he chasing then? who confronted martin while his girlfriend was still on the phone, just before someone got whacked? we don't know who.

but ami keeps repeating like a parakeet "he went back to his truck and martin came after him"...which she WILL NOT BACK UP...in court she would be ridiculous.

never mind that the sandford police have said "TOO BAD HE DIDN"T BACK OFF WHEN WE ASKED HIM TO...this would not be happening now."

will someone please acknowledge that WE DON"T HAVE THE FACTS

and THAT UNTIL A FUSS WAS MADE THE POLICE DID NOTHING but question zimmerman? why does it need a "racism threat" to get an investigation? and why do so many people think they KNOW what happened? this is not a frigging tv mystery, someone died.

the press on the right is EVERY BIT as guilty of racism as those who are seeing it as profiling and persecution.

for this reason alone, the circus being created, ZIMMERMAN NEEDS THIS TRIAL more than anyone...if he is found innocent he will hopefully be able to lead a normal life again. if guilty, he will be punished.

but no one seems to care that the odds of a fair and uncompromised JURY are being destroyed by all these people who think they know what happened, like ami.

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AcousticGod
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posted May 23, 2012 06:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for posting something helpful.

We can't assume that Zimmerman's account is accurate, however. No one witnessed how things went down, so any determination about how the fight started would be tough. Maybe Zimmerman did spook a drug dealer who retaliated. Who knows?

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katatonic
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posted May 25, 2012 04:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
just a few witnesses who have changed their tunes since they were reported (including the one jwhop mentioned who "saw" martin pummelling zimmerman martial arts style.

Witness 12

A young mother who is also a neighbor in the town-home community never gave a recorded interview to Sanford police, according to prosecution records released last week. She first sat down for an audio-recorded interview with an FDLE agent March 20, more than three weeks after the shooting.

During that session, she said she saw two people on the ground immediately after the shooting and was not sure who was on top, Zimmerman or Trayvon.

"I don't know which one. … All I saw when they were on the ground was dark colors," she said.

Six days later, however, she was sure: It was Zimmerman on top, she told trial prosecutor Bernie de la Rionda during a 21/2-minute recorded session.

"I know after seeing the TV of what's happening, comparing their sizes, I think Zimmerman was definitely on top because of his size," she said.

Witness 6

This witness lived a few feet from where Trayvon and Zimmerman had their fight. On the night of the shooting, he told Serino he saw a black man on top of a lighter-skinned man "just throwing down blows on the guy, MMA-style," a reference to mixed martial arts.

He also said the one calling for help was "the one being beat up," a reference to Zimmerman.

But three weeks later, when he was interviewed by an FDLE agent, the man said he was no longer sure which one called for help.

"I truly can't tell who, after thinking about it, was yelling for help just because it was so dark out on that sidewalk," he said.

He also said he was no longer sure Trayvon was throwing punches. The teenager may have simply been keeping Zimmerman pinned to the ground, he said.

He did not equivocate, though, about who was on top.

"The black guy was on top," he said.

Witness 13

He is important because he talked with Zimmerman and watched the way he behaved immediately after the shooting, before police arrived.

After this neighbor heard gunfire, he went outside and spotted Zimmerman standing there with"blood on the back of his head," he told Sanford police the night of the shooting.

Zimmerman told him that Trayvon "was beating up on me, so I had to shoot him," the witness told Serino. The Neighborhood Watch captain then asked the witness to call his wife, Shellie Zimmerman, and tell her what happened.

In two subsequent interviews about a month later — one with an FDLE investigator and one with de la Rionda — the witness described Zimmerman's demeanor in greater detail, adding that he spoke as if the shooting were no big deal.

Zimmerman's tone, the witness said, was "not like 'I can't believe I just shot someone!' — it was more like, 'Just tell my wife I shot somebody …,' like it was nothing."

Those witnesses are likely to be interviewed at least once more before Zimmerman's trial. Defense attorneys in Florida routinely question witnesses under oath as they prepare for trial.

rstutzman@tribune.com or 407-650-6394. jeweiner@tribune.com or 407-420-5151.

still wondering who says zimmerman backed off and who saw martin "go after him"..?

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katatonic
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posted May 25, 2012 04:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
it should be interesting to see - regarding the stand your ground law - just WHO was standing their ground, and how one decides who was guilty if the VICTIM GETS THE BETTER in a fight?

and what in fact is the point of an extra law making self-defense a reason to acquit?

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posted May 26, 2012 09:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Right, it was the Tooth Fairy who slammed Zimmerman's head into the pavement repeatedly and caused all those cuts to the back of his head.

And, it must have been the same Tooth Fairy who broke Zimmerman's nose and caused all those cuts on his face. Martin didn't have a single thing to do with any of that.

And, just so you know, this wasn't about race...though some here want to make it about race..and the idiot press, race baiters like the reverrrrend Al want to make it all about race...Zimmerman excoriated a white policeman in the past.

Why?

Because that white policeman beat the hell out a young black man for apparently no reason.

When the pathologists report is finally read...if anyone on the left is even capable of reading...it will be determined that the bullet was fired from below on an upward trajectory from 1 to no more than 18 inches.

For anyone with 2 braincells to rub together, this makes it impossible for Zimmerman to have been on top of Martin!

But hey leftists, don't let a little thing like facts get in the way of having a little racist fun!

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Ami Anne
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posted May 26, 2012 09:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jwhop:
Right, it was the Tooth Fairy who slammed Zimmerman's head into the pavement repeatedly and caused all those cuts to the back of his head.

And, it must have been the same Tooth Fairy who broke Zimmerman's nose and caused all those cuts on his face. Martin didn't have a single thing to do with any of that.

And, just so you know, this wasn't about race...though some here want to make it about race..and the idiot press, race baiters like the reverrrrend Al want to make it all about race...Zimmerman excoriated a white policeman in the past.

Why?

Because that white policeman beat the hell out a young black man for apparently no reason.

When the pathologists report is finally read...if anyone on the left is even capable of reading...it will be determined that the bullet was fired from below on an upward trajectory from 1 to no more than 18 inches.

For anyone with 2 braincells to rub together, this makes it impossible for Zimmerman to have been on top of Martin!

But hey leftists, don't let a little thing like facts get in the way of having a little racist fun!



Freaking well said. State the obvious to these people, Jwhop

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