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katatonic
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posted June 11, 2012 08:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
some people are honest and open about their fears of having a "non-white" president, even if many of their likeminded pals won't admit it.
http://shine.yahoo.com/work-money/comes-politics-more-racist-think-185600847.html

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posted June 11, 2012 08:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But from 2008 on, he discovered, "Obama" was one of the most prevalent search terms in racially tinged online searches.

After gathering information on the racially charged search queries, Stephens-Davidowitz took a look at voting data from around the country and compared each area's 2008 results, when Obama was running for president, to voting results from 2004, when all of the candidates were white.

Though many people believe that our first African-American president won the election thanks in part to increased turnout by African-American voters, Stephens-Davidowitz's research shows that those votes only added about 1 percentage point to Obama's totals. "In the general election, this effect was comparatively minor," he concludes. But in areas with high racial search rates, the fact that Obama is African American worked against him, sometimes significantly.

and the pundits push this fear for all it's worth. he's not "one of us", he's muslim, he's this, that, socialist...anything but out and say he friggin ain't white and that's scary/not allowable.

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posted June 11, 2012 08:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Non white is SOO stupid . People elected a Non white president. Wake up and smell the expresso

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katatonic
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posted June 11, 2012 08:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
read the article did you? and he is technically neither white nor anything else, isn't he? you prefer espresso, do you?

or perhaps you think racism is not an issue in the good ole usa these days? have you seen the bumper sticker/title of the thread?

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posted June 11, 2012 09:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by katatonic:
read the article did you? and he is technically neither white nor anything else, isn't he? you prefer espresso, do you?

or perhaps you think racism is not an issue in the good ole usa these days? have you seen the bumper sticker/title of the thread?


I think the race issue is NOT a factor Kat, unless people want to USE it to unnerve other people and throw race at people to make them shut up. If most people don't like O'Bomber, it is because he stinks as a president. If race was a factor, he would NOT have been elected.

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posted June 11, 2012 10:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
then you might want to use your logic once in awhile instead of making blanket statements of opinion with no basis in fact. logic is only as good as the use you put it to.

so i gather you did NOT read the article, nor have you seen the lovely bumper sticker?

just because people say they are not racist when asked doesn't mean they aren't, and radism is not really a logical issue is it?

race is very much an issue in this country (not only this country of course) and not just whites hating on blacks of course.

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posted June 12, 2012 08:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, Kat, as long as we are on the earth, there will be hate. People, using their worst selves(and we all have one) will hate. An easy target is ANYONE who is different.

That will, always, exist, to some degree, while we are on the earth. If one is a minority, one must make peace with that fact. One can only be the best person one can be, so as to change individual hearts, with one's own actions.

Society wise, the fact that the US elected a black man shows a great deal. I am proud of that fact. However, for people to bring up race, now, is a CHEAP use of the whole issue as O'Bomber is not disliked on race. He is disliked on character,maturity and wisdom, on which he has precious little!

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posted June 12, 2012 09:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As someone who actually read the article...

Two comments:

  • The writer does not really define, in a concrete way, just exactly the criteria for "racially tinged".
    That might be splitting hairs. Most of us hoped that with the election of Obama, racism might be on the decline.
    Not true. What I have seen happening is racism broadening to include Latinos/Latinas, Afghanis, Pakistanis...essentially peoples with more pigment. That sounds facetious. But what I see, and hear, is hate/rage/disgust focused on peeps with a darker skin tone across the board. Are all caucasians, deep down, white supremacists? Unfortunately I think there is some truth in that statement.

  • I am not surprised that the extended Appalachia's pocket of WV-Eastern OH- etc is supposedly pointy white hat central for racism. I am surprised that of the 10 states with the fewest racially charged searches Utah, New Mexico, Montana, and Wyoming were on the list. Maybe more of those people work physically for a living [?] and do not spend all day on a comp.

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posted June 12, 2012 11:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Trying to play the race card just isn't going to work kiddies!

But, y'all just keep telling all da white folk they're racists. That's sure to get your little Marxist Socialist Progressive Messiah O'Bomber reelected in November!

See, they think the issues are the economy, jobs, the declining household incomes, rising prices, declining net worth and high energy prices.

How surprised they're going to be to hear they're going to vote O'Bomber out of the White House because they're racists!

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posted June 12, 2012 05:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by jwhop:
Trying to play the race card just isn't going to work kiddies!

But, y'all just keep telling all da white folk they're racists. That's sure to get your little Marxist Socialist Progressive Messiah O'Bomber reelected in November!

See, they think the issues are the economy, jobs, the declining household incomes, rising prices, declining net worth and high energy prices.

How surprised they're going to be to hear they're going to vote O'Bomber out of the White House because they're racists!



Wise words. It is hard to even speak the truth with all this political correctness. It takes bolas of steel to talk true.

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posted June 13, 2012 06:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yazza, don't renig in 2012

to call obama a black man is to miss the WHOLE point. there are people with more black blood, and lighter skin, walking around here and elsewhere in the world. what is the difference? entirely skin deep.

one of the scariest things about obama is he doesn't DO "darkie" or "descendant of darkie", does he? his father nor grandfather were never slaves. how dare he hold his head up when some people very loudly prove how much they don't like him and how much the colour of his skin brings up karmic fears of retribution.

"our blacks are so much better than their blacks.." ann coulter

"he's not a real black man, like herman cain, he never suffered the deprivation of slave-mentality..." etc. rush limbaugh...

that is why he can use republican ideas and be called "socialist"...of COURSE blacks are into socialism, it speaks to the bottom of the ladder...

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posted June 13, 2012 07:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

The race thing is a dead issue, Kat, unless people want to keep it alive, for political purposes. The US voted for O'Bomber. There is your answer. Race did not keep him out, so it is not an issue, in THIS election cycle. O'Bomber has no record except failure on all fronts. All he and his ilk can do is call racism or hatred toward Bush. He tried Romneys dog, stay at home Mom's and Romney being a vulture. None of these stuck, so he and his ilk are going back to racism, as the old stand by.

Most people are smarter than that.

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posted June 13, 2012 08:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
the bumper sticker is all about the issue, ami, or didn't you see my repetition of it yet? not about the economy or any other thing but race. you can turn a blind eye, or say hate is everywhere, but that doesn't change the fact that this PURELY racist bumper sticker was not only made but bought and "worn".

generally, every 80 years or so, things get so sewn up and boxed in that we have a major recession like the one we're in, right on schedule as it happens. it takes a bit longer to climb out than your ordinary common recession, and many times war has been the end result, as in the revolution, civil war, world war 2, etc etc etc. is that where you want to see it go?

our government was very thoughtfully organized so NO ONE MAN could ruin everything, run everything, or be responsible for everything, right OR wrong. yet everyone wants to blame obama...why is that?

why do your "heroes" carp on the so-called birther issue, the muslim issue, the socialist issue? he's no socialist! no more than romney as far as that goes...so when does one pull one's ostrich head out and admit it?

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posted June 13, 2012 08:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Kat
Get over it. There is hate everywhere. It is life and it is people. My people were killed in the Holocaust. ALL I can do is be a good representative of Jewish people. I can't make hate go away or bemoan the fact it is there.

A black man was elected president. Celebrate that fact instead of whining about racism!

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posted June 13, 2012 09:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cripes on a crutch woman!

If someone told a Jew to stop whining about the Holocaust it would be despicable.

Who would have thunk that mistress ami could dumb down GU any further?

This is absolutely disgusting.

Has anyone actually looked at the bumper sticker that kat posted????

No one is playing a card here.

Idiots
I do not know when I have been more angry on the internet, than I am right now.

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posted June 13, 2012 09:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Emeraldopal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Breathe Node
Breathe

perhaps we should try a differet
method..???

If you don't Mind
It won't Matter!

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posted June 13, 2012 09:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
it's all too easy, ami, to say hate is everywhere, we should just get over it. i haven'[t noticed you or any jewish people saying we should "get over" what happened in ww2. including my own family.

perhaps if people hadn't been so willing to "get over" systemic hatred in the 30s it might never have happened, and i know that is simplistic, but if we all just lie down and let "hate be everywhere" without a murmur, how are we any better than the germans in the 30s?

i come from jewish and irish catholic stock. both have known the power of hatred. i am shocked that someone who so identifies with judaism would just shrug.

it is the same whether the target is jews, blacks, whites or homosexuals. yes, there is plenty of hate around. trying to pretend "it's okay" is pathetic.

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posted June 13, 2012 09:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yeah.

I'm walkin outside right now.

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posted June 13, 2012 09:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Node:
Cripes on a crutch woman!

If someone told a Jew to stop [b]whining about the Holocaust it would be despicable.

Who would have thunk that mistress ami would dumb down GU any further?

This is absolutely disgusting.

Has anyone actually looked at the bumper sticker that kat posted????

No one is playing a card here.

Idiots
I do not know when I have been more angry on the internet, than I am right now.[/B]


Node-y
You are angry because people are calling you on your stuff. Political correctness is your way. People are tired of it, Node-y.
People here say what is on their minds. Too bad you can't spew your politically correct euphemisms with no one calling you on them. Wake up and smell the coffee Node-y.

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posted June 13, 2012 09:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Emeraldopal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
you know, it's ALL
about the way we
use the Energy..giving
someone-something energy
gives them energy..

the responsibility
is in knowing how
to Direct that
Energy
which takes kwowledge
and leads to Wisdom. ...

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posted June 13, 2012 09:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by katatonic:
it's all too easy, ami, to say hate is everywhere, we should just get over it. i haven'[t noticed you or any jewish people saying we should "get over" what happened in ww2. including my own family.

perhaps if people hadn't been so willing to "get over" systemic hatred in the 30s it might never have happened, and i know that is simplistic, but if we all just lie down and let "hate be everywhere" without a murmur, how are we any better than the germans in the 30s?

i come from jewish and irish catholic stock. both have known the power of hatred. i am shocked that someone who so identifies with judaism would just shrug.

it is the same whether the target is jews, blacks, whites or homosexuals. yes, there is plenty of hate around. trying to pretend "it's okay" is pathetic.


Hate will always be there. You can be the best person YOU can be. That may touch ONE person who may hate your group. That is all you can do. Do that. Don't bemoan what you can't do.

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posted June 14, 2012 08:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That I hear crickets from Sr. management after the latest bomb doesn't surprise me.

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posted June 14, 2012 08:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Emerald- the "different method" for me is to post solely on a few political,
and astro blogs.

Ami- I could break down the sickness in your "Node-y" reply but there are plenty of smart people who have read your compost
since Sept 2010 and don't need me to point out the obvious. Particularly after you have had a glass of wine or 3.

I do say, with the utmost sincerity, that with the well connected people on this site you might get a therapist referral.
Everyone can benefit from therapy at some point or another in their lives, and you are no exception. Therapy does not carry the
stigma that it once did. What is painfully obvious is that you actually get off on the public humiliation. You cater to
it. Not conducive to mental health. Maybe you have had an issue with one or both of your parents.

Get some therapy.

And, if the site owner/manager Randall had 20/20 you would not be moderator of half of his website.

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