posted July 24, 2012 01:36 PM            

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CAMP PENDLETON, Calif. — The Marine Corps has created its first law-enforcement battalions — a lean, specialized force of military police officers that it hopes can quickly deploy worldwide to help investigate crimes from terrorism to drug trafficking and train fledgling security forces in allied nations.

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posted July 24, 2012 05:55 PM            

Most Americans don't even care that we've lost that protection.

In that case, one wonders why Americans haven't been actively fighting and petitioning to have the military for police all along. They make such an excellent choice. Much better/safer to have tanks rolling down our suburban streets with machine guns aimed at us, say, than to merely have those doughnut eaters cruising around once in a while!

posted July 24, 2012 09:24 PM            

Well, one wonders how the same gov't that brought us FEMA...and its brilliant plan to "save" people by detaining them in a stadium for days on end without access to any kind of basic care...can succeed so unerringly with the military. Actually the Katrina mess wouldn't be my top pick for how domestic intervention by the military "succeeded."

No...it's all a matter of trust, I think.

I don't trust police state stuff, absolute power corrupts absolutely, and I've never seen a country ruled by martial law prosper. It's more like Third World at best, Third Reich at worst.

posted July 24, 2012 10:23 PM            

Who was doing what there, anyway? It all looks like confusion to me.

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Ten days after the storm, the New York Times reported that although the city was calm with no signs of looting (though it acknowledged this had taken place previously), "New Orleans has turned into an armed camp, patrolled by thousands of local, state, and federal law enforcement officers, as well as National Guard troops and active-duty soldiers." The local police superintendent ordered all weapons, including legally registered firearms, confiscated from civilians. But as the Times noted, that order didn't "apply to hundreds of security guards hired by businesses and some wealthy individuals to protect property…[who] openly carry M-16's and other assault rifles." Scahill spoke to Michael Montgomery, the chief of security for one wealthy businessman who said his men came under fire from "black gangbangers" near the Ninth Ward. Armed with AR-15s and Glocks, Montgomery and his men "unleashed a barrage of bullets in the general direction of the alleged shooters on the overpass. 'After that, all I heard was moaning and screaming, and the shooting stopped. That was it. Enough said.'"

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So...it's hard to say how much anyone improved, versus aggravated, problems.

How about FEMA? I think it's very corrupt, its track record just sucks. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FEMA#Criticism

And really... anything Carter and Zbigniew "I openly support Pol Pot" Brzezinksi coked up is suspect, to me. I'm no expert with FEMA but the powers granted to it are complete: they can take anything of yours including your property, food, belongings, children, and person, whenever they decide it's necessary. Now that is spooky, considering what flunkies they've been.

People will say, "corruption is inevitable in government" but it's a matter of scale. Germany, for example, doesn't have the kind of "shadow government" that we have, doesn't have a lot of the same problems we have. Even though it is HIGHLY regulated.

It's not the regulation that bothers me so much as BAD regulation and overkill with military tactics being, as I see it, widely embraced, without enough scrutiny and skepticism.

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posted July 25, 2012 09:30 AM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
Colorado gun sales have increased substantially. Probably due to anticipated gun control.

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Yep, O'Bomber wants an unarmed people

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posted July 25, 2012 10:02 AM            

Honestly. For some reason it bothers me when people are embraced by the U.S. and given citizenship, and then they turn around and wish for this to become a draconian state like the one they hearken from.

If communist tactics are so great, why don't people who love those tactics live in THOSE countries instead of America?

posted July 25, 2012 01:07 PM            

in the meantime by all means get yourself a machine gun! factories are cranking them out 24/7 "before the law cracks down on us" even though there is no sign in sight that the law has any such intention.

posted July 25, 2012 01:12 PM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
No concern over here, and in fact, I'm fully supportive. The US us too caught up with Posse Comitatus.

Machine guns have a unique way of enforcing peace and order.

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posted July 25, 2012 01:29 PM            

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when the feds and military come for you the blaze of glory will not stop you being taken out.

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posted July 25, 2012 11:34 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
^ Ian,

Honestly. For some reason it bothers me when people are embraced by the U.S. and given citizenship, and then they turn around and wish for this to become a draconian state like the one they hearken from.

If communist tactics are so great, why don't people who love those tactics live in THOSE countries instead of America?

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Faith,

I came from a strictly capitalist state driven by free enterprise. I came to the US hoping that it is even more of a market economy, but I'm finding out that the US is far more of a communist state than the remaining communist states, with people with greater socialist beliefs than all the communist countries I have visited.

I value law and order and, as a soldier, I've been engaged in the enforcement of law and order as well, albeit with an arsenal of weapons, and a company of 140 men under my direction to accomplish the task. By the way, it is a member of the Commonwealth, the parliamentary monarchy of which is the greatest friend of America. It is also America's largest ally on the fight against terror. Calling America's best friend a bunch of draconian Commies is not very nice.

Like I said, it is magical how hoodlums behave themselves in the presence of machine guns. There would be no unproductive nonsense like Occupy Wall Street or weed smoking crackpots making fools of thselves.

The NYPD has a shoot first talk later approach. You get spot searched in train stations whether or not you like it and regardless of you spouting the first amendment rights etc. the muzzle of a couple of M4s or MP5s shuts you up very quickly. Resist and they let the German Shepards on you, cuff you up and let you rot in jail for a week before you see a judge. It works well. I guess NYC is the ultimate communist state. In NYC, James Holmes would have been shot 100 times over, and another 100 more times just to make sure, even with his hands up. There wouldn't be the public spectacle we have now. People like that don't deserve the public forum they enjoy at our expense. Leave that for Hollywood.

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Rock on, Ian. You are a voice of sanity and reason for me, in this crazy world. Love you, Brother

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posted July 27, 2012 07:14 AM            

So...you are not from China?
And China is not communist?

Oh, my mistakes.

But I never used the pejorative term "Commie," so your criticism on that point was groundless.

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Like I said, it is magical how hoodlums behave themselves in the presence of machine guns. There would be no unproductive nonsense like Occupy Wall Street or weed smoking crackpots making fools of thselves.

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The Occupy people were protesting, apparently most of what occurred was legal under First Amendment protection, but I didn't follow the whole story. At any rate, there was no need for military intervention; the protests ended without it.

To use machine guns to control people who just want to smoke pot is police state tyranny at its finest. There aren't enough troops to fill the college campuses, enforcing the law that way. And what a colossal waste of taxpayer money, besides.

And what does it do to people, to always be treated like criminals? What's it do to children, to grow up in what looks like a war zone?

You seem totally desensitized, for whatever reason, and I feel bad for you. But I revile your politics.

posted July 27, 2012 05:26 PM            

but you did mention england too, running it down as too socialist for your liking, which was why you "fell in love" with reagan's america if i'm remembering aright?

i agree that britain is capitalist, though they have many social programs in place. apparently for the duration of the olympics they are a corporate state, or at least in london people are being asked to leave or give over products that compete with the "brand integrity" of the major sponsors!

but armies in the streets? no thanks. drones overhead? ditto.